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Sleep paralysis ?!?!?! - MEGA MERGED

Usually I try to kick my leg as hard as I can haha and usually I come out of it pretty quick now.

Honestly, I am so interested in lucid dreaming and all that sleep stuff, sleep/dreaming etc fascinates me but dealing with SP for so long makes me fearful of that stuff. I don't think I could ever make myself not be afraid of SP enough to go into a lucid dream. Also, I wonder if a lucid dream could end up turning into sleep paralysis???
 
Also, I wonder if a lucid dream could end up turning into sleep paralysis???

I don't know the solid answer to that but I think it's usually the other way around.
I hope for your sake that you can one day use sleep paralysis to your advantage/enjoyment, but I completely understand why you feel the way you do about it!

My usual method of dealing with SP is just relaxing and going with the flow, but if I want to actually get out of it I usually just try wriggling my fingers or moving my toes. Just some small movement to try and ease my body out of paralysis-mode.
 
i was all into sleep paralysis, very interested in the subject, thought i would make the most of the situation if it ever happened to me,

well it did, after about 5 days into withdrawal,

I had what i would describe as a severe!(haha) SP episode,

it was like, the episode knew i was somewhat prepared for it, so it had to trick me! lol(ok, i know SP is not aware and dosnt trick people, etc etc, but hear me out)

my episode went from 1 false awakening(which was just as real-life as the SP) then into a full on SP,
i think i knew what was going on, but because of the false awakening i was already TERRIFIED, so i just did the only thing i thought i could and that was scream like a baby(which apparently only came out as small whimpering according to my wife, but in my world, i was screaming!! haha)

from that experience and my massive interest in SP, i can honestly say, no first timer for SP would be prepared for it(although i think you can have a milder version, which is not as bad)

my episode left me shaken, sleep paralysis is truly an amazing phenomenon.

my episode was accompanied by extremely vivid hallucinations/dreaming, the whole thing felt more real than when i woke up.
 
^^ Wow boodha, I can totally relate to that!! Especially the screaming part. It's the most bizarre thing when you actually wake up for real, and you ask your partner if you were really screaming and they say that you didn't make a sound. Weird!
As terrifying as it was for you, I'm glad you've finally experienced SP though, considering you have been intrigued by it for so long :)
Did you realise at the time that what you were experiencing was SP? Or did you just instinctively go in to panic mode?
 
during the first false awakening i was not aware it was sleep paralysis, but then when i woke up again, in sleep paralysis, i almost instantly knew, it still amazes me to this day how aware I actually was, but it was simply something I could not prepare myself for, it was made worse due to the hallucinations which were of two people in the room with me,

it is strange, i'm intensely interested in sleep paralysis and lucid dreaming, but so hesitant to ever have another SP episode, after the episode I had the most amazing lucid dream aswell, so it is a definite path to lucid dreaming, but it is a very confronting thing to have to deal with.
 
Strange Sleep paralysis

Ok so I've had a few of these episodes, they seem to be sleep paralysis but not in the conventional sense, a lot of times I hear about sleep paralysis victims 'waking up' to the state, however I actually feel my body enter it and it's ALWAYS while I'm dreaming.
Bear with me, this might be confusing cause even I don't know what's actually happening, I guess ill just recite what happened to me earlier.

I was having a dream, and I woke up from it, I think it was a false awakening, have no idea though. (if I just wake up from a dream and go back to sleep I normally start dreaming almost instantly) in my false awakening, which was lucid I think, I seem to have thought I was lucid in the previous dream and thought, ill go back to sleep and see if I can have some fun.

Now this is where it gets weird, I close my eyes and I get this strange sensation in my mind, like I'm being warped into sleep paralysis mode, its like I'm literately being sucked into it, and the longer I wait while having this sensation the harder it is to get out until I am in it. I can't describe it one bit...its very weird. It probably takes 5 seconds to enter sleep paralysis 'mode' after the sensation/mindwarp starts.

This is where the sleep paralysis starts, still got that weird feeling in my head, and I seem to be able to move my head, atleast I think, i don't exactly take notice of these things, and if I do move my head its a tiny bit since I don't look back cause I don't want to see the evil presence, so yeah classic sleep paralysis symptoms here, evil presence in the room, today it was making sounds (when I say it, I don't actually think its a real demon or something, its just easier to refer to it like that) and sounds in the hallway, could have been my family, since they closed a door and I thought it was just the SP. and im on my stomach for most of these episodes, thats why I refuse to look back cause I don't want to see anything.

anyway, my mindstate is normally calm, at first, and gradually it gets more anxious and scared, especially when I feel the presence and hear sounds, I felt my heart beat faster and faster. Normally for the first few attacks I was completely calm, but as more have happened I seem to be getting more scared, not less. Though they are progressing worse and worse.

anyway when this ends, i wake up but all hazy and EXTREMELY drowsy, however if I lay down and close my eyes the weird feeling comes back and it happens again. I have no idea if I'm actually awake, since once in this state I rolled over looked at my wall and there was a my name engraved in it with a red glow. but there never seems to be a waking moment where ill be walking around and wake up, probably just a hallucination cause I just woke up from REM sleep.

So yeah, this mind warp feeling this is quite distressing, thank god it doesn't happen often,

and just to note, I'm completely sober and the last thing I done was pot like a week or two ago.


I really want to see if I can move and possibly turn around, look at this thing and just say "hey" But I think I'll be too frightened, I know it's just a dream but still...also, this is the only time I ever get scared in dreams, even if I'm having a regular nightmare I'm not scared (well then it's not a nightmare is it? lol)
 
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Sleep paralysis is one of the most disturbing things I have ever experienced.
 
I have suffered from this loads. At its worse I experienced it 3 times a week and 5 times a night on the nights it occurred. This went on at this rate for 8 months. It got to the point that I was scared to sleep. I also feel myself slip into it too. I get the feeling i am falling as this ear piercing scream goes off in my head.
Once in sleep paralysis i lay there helpless, i usually hear someone open the downstairs door and walk up to my room and open that door. Then its the usual thing, dark figures enter my room, i am filled with dread as the get closer and closer. Then they get an inch from my face and scream at me, sometimes I feel them lift me and crush me into the ceiling or throw me to the floor. After a lot of panic i awake still in my bed, confused as to what just happened.

Its all very terrifying but due to the amount of times i have had it i am managing to sometimes control it. For example once when i was "lifted" out of my bed i manged to stay calm and it was as though whatever it was put me in a small rowing boat i could feel it go up and down with the waves. It was far from enjoyable (some people claim to enjoy sleep paralysis) but it wasn't completely frightning.
 
I can understand why people believe its some sort of demonic possession....not that it is, but its terrifying.
 
Ok so I've had a few of these episodes, they seem to be sleep paralysis but not in the conventional sense, a lot of times I hear about sleep paralysis victims 'waking up' to the state, however I actually feel my body enter it and it's ALWAYS while I'm dreaming.
Bear with me, this might be confusing cause even I don't know what's actually happening, I guess ill just recite what happened to me earlier.

I was having a dream, and I woke up from it, I think it was a false awakening, have no idea though. (if I just wake up from a dream and go back to sleep I normally start dreaming almost instantly) in my false awakening, which was lucid I think, I seem to have thought I was lucid in the previous dream and thought, ill go back to sleep and see if I can have some fun.

Now this is where it gets weird, I close my eyes and I get this strange sensation in my mind, like I'm being warped into sleep paralysis mode, its like I'm literately being sucked into it, and the longer I wait while having this sensation the harder it is to get out until I am in it. I can't describe it one bit...its very weird. It probably takes 5 seconds to enter sleep paralysis 'mode' after the sensation/mindwarp starts.

This is where the sleep paralysis starts, still got that weird feeling in my head, and I seem to be able to move my head, atleast I think, i don't exactly take notice of these things, and if I do move my head its a tiny bit since I don't look back cause I don't want to see the evil presence, so yeah classic sleep paralysis symptoms here, evil presence in the room, today it was making sounds (when I say it, I don't actually think its a real demon or something, its just easier to refer to it like that) and sounds in the hallway, could have been my family, since they closed a door and I thought it was just the SP. and im on my stomach for most of these episodes, thats why I refuse to look back acuse I don't want to see anything.

anyway, my mindstate is normally calm, at first, and gradually it gets more anxious and scared, especially when I feel the presence and hear sounds, I felt my heart beat faster and faster. Normally for the first few attacks I was completely calm, but as more have happened I seem to be getting more scared, not less. Though they are progressing worse and worse.

anyway when this ends, i wake up but all hazy and EXTREMELY drowsy, however if I lay down and close my eyes the weird feeling comes back and it happens again. I have no idea if im actually awake, since one in this state I rolled over looked at my wall and there was a my name engraved in it with a red glow. but there never seems to be a waking moment where ill be walking around and wake up, probably just a hallucination cause I just woke up from REM sleep.

So yeah, this mind warm feeling this is quite distressing, thank god it doesn't happen often,

and just to note, I completely sober and the last thing I done was pot like a week or two ago.


I really want to see if I can move and possibly turn around, look at this thing and just say "hey" But I think i'll be too frightened, I know it's just a dream but still...also, this is the only time I ever get scared in dreams, even if I'm having a regular nightmare I'm not scared (well then it's not a nightmare is it? lol)


your experiencing the rarer type like myself. The common type which everyone will get once in their life is where they wake up paralysed.
The type we suffer is as the transition to REM sleep occurs, basically the chemical that is released during REM sleep to paralyse the body so we dont act out our dreams is released too soon and we are fully awake, paralysed, frightened and hallucinating due to be in a "dream state". Generally you feel you are going to die, not nice. Only about 3% of the world suffer from this type.
 
That's absolutely horrible. I'm scared to go to sleep now after that and it's nothing compared to yours. What happens if you just close your eyes once it enters? does it still scream and lift you.

I think mine have been getting worse and worse due to the fear manifesting itself, the next time it happens it will be terrifying, hopefully not as terrifying as yours. But I guess the only thing I can do is say fuck it and face it, but only if I'm not scared cause my minds obviously going to know if I'm scared or not regardless if I'm facing it with courage.
Maybe I can try to remove my ego and realise it's just a dream and I'm going to die some day so nothing can actually hurt me, dream or not. so why be scared? if that makes sense.

I say all this but I know when it happens I'm just gonna sit there trying to wake up haha...




Only problem I have with the transition theory is that I was dreaming beforehand and most likely had a false awakening so I was already in REM sleep.

but is there scientific name for the kind where it happens when the transmission to REM sleep occurs? So I can check it out a bit more.



Also a bit more about my wacky sleeping, this Sleep Paralysis happens at the start of my sleep, no more than 2 hours after falling asleep, however if I sleep for a long time, 12hours+ I get into this weird REM type thing where I would wake up every 30 minutes or so, go back to sleep and have instant dreams, usually lucid, that's where most of my lucid dreams have happened, and in those times when I wake up I get the same hazy and EXTREME* drowsiness thing, which makes it really hard to actually wake up rather than go back to sleep.

* I cannot express how extreme the drowsiness is, it's as if I have been awake for 70 hours plus and I just want sleep...
 
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That's absolutely horrible. I'm scared to go to sleep now after that and it's nothing compared to yours. What happens if you just close your eyes once it enters? does it still scream and lift you.

I think mine have been getting worse and worse due to the fear manifesting itself, the next time it happens it will be terrifying, hopefully not as terrifying as yours. But I guess the only thing I can do is say fuck it and face it, but only if I'm not scared cause my minds obviously going to know if I'm scared or not regardless if I'm facing it with courage.
Maybe I can try to remove my ego and realise it's just a dream and I'm going to die some day so nothing can actually hurt me, dream or not. so why be scared? if that makes sense.


I say all this but I know when it happens I'm just gonna sit there trying to wake up haha...

My eyes are open through out, don't think i could shut them. Apparently the worst thing you can do is sleep on your back, it occurs more frequently if u sleep this way.
Also herbal sleeping pils are good, i use kalms, i have never had it when i take these.

everyone who has had this gets scared, im 34 and it scares the shit out of me. if it happens again, "try" and relax if you can, and the best way to wake yourself up is to concentrate on moving a very small part of your body, like your big toe. I know its odd but if u concentrate hard enough you will wake up.

man these dreams are awful, you kinda just need to go with the ride. i have probably had near enough 200 of these dreams and they still shock me
 
Yeah ever since the first time this has happened I don't sleep on my back cause I don't want to see anything, cause if I see anything I'm going to literately freak. especially an alien, the idea of an abduction or seeing one sends shivers down my spine, I'm fine with UFO's though, not that I've ever seen one... lol

like I said im usually relaxed at the start "it's just sleep paralysis it will pass", but the longer it goes for the more stressed I get.

also I edited my post after you quoted it.

Thanks for the help man, really appreciated.
 
no probs anytime, its good to know other people get it, i thought i was the only one for years.

do you not get hallucinations with your then? I always see "them" and hear "them". i don't think closing my eyes would stop that either
 
This was the first time I heard something, I don't know what I heard but I know I heard it. it was behind and to the right of me in my room. so 'm guessing if I could move my head and if I could turn around I would have seen something, but other than that no I haven't seen a presence.

I saw my name engraved in my wall after I woke up from an episode though...possible a false awakening or just a hallucination due to abruptly waking up from REM sleep.
 
this whole sleep paralysis has become a real obsession of mine lately, i am terrified by it but have a real morbid fascination with the whole thing. its so amazing what our minds are capable of.
 
yeah, I don't think anyone knows the full potential of our minds.
I'm actually watching the whole documentary of that video. Thanks for the share :)
 
anytime, no worries. there is loads on youtube about it. but be careful because it seems the more i watch, the more uneasy i feel at night and i go to sleep worrying that i am going to experience it again. i try to watch a comedy like peepshow or something for an hour before i sleep now to relax me and put me in a happy mood.
 
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