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Sleep paralysis ?!?!?! - MEGA MERGED

I've now got a sleep study scheduled for a couple weeks. Hopefully we can figure out the recent abnormalities in my sleep. The doc wants to give me provigil during the day, but if insurance won't pay he says it will be dexedrine. He gave me ambien for now for sleep, I dunno how that will work out though.

I'm still wondering why you would take dexedrine for SP? Dexedrine is prescribed for narcolepsy sometimes, but if you're not narcoleptic, the drug can cause major sleep disturbances.

Provigil is also for narcolepsy/being sleepy all the time. I could see how it would help if you take it first thing in the morning, and you're able to get back on a good sleep schedule. But I've never heard of it being prescribed for sleep paralysis, or anything other than narcolepsy really.
 
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I only had SP happen once and that was when I went camping and went to bed drunk and later woke up after the booze wore off and yeah it is freaky at first.
 
I'm still wondering why you would take dexedrine for SP? Dexedrine is prescribed for narcolepsy sometimes, but if you're not narcoleptic, the drug can cause major sleep disturbances.

Provigil is also for narcolepsy/being sleepy all the time. I could see how it would help if you take it first thing in the morning, and you're able to get back on a good sleep schedule. But I've never heard of it being prescribed for sleep paralysis, or anything other than narcolepsy really.

Yeah the dexedrine isnt really for the SP, more for the other weird sleep symptoms I'm having, the insomnia combined with sleep paralysis and whatnot. Whats weird is that during some periods where I was not having insomnia at all, I would still be super sleepy during the day, which is why we were thinking provigil. I got a months worth free and it really did help. But after insurance said "no" it was $18/pill which is a bit much for me to pay daily.
 
To people who can't get rid of sleep paralysis: learn to sleep on your side.

This is precisely what I did when I started suffering from SP on a regular basis. Somehow, right from the start, I seemed to realise that I experienced SP whenever I fell asleep on my back. I'm not sure what the scientific correlation is, but there seems to be a link somehow!
 
When i get it i have loud ringing and rumbling in my ears, it feels like the rooms shaking, i cant open my eyes and i usually think im in an earthquake or something lol. For me it usually only happens a while after using MDMA but ive had it a few other times..always when lying on my back...i find wen concentrate on moving one finger ill be able to do it and when i do i snap out of it instantly. it is terrifying though
 
Umm guys...sleep paralysis isn't a bad thing. If you just relax and visualize a scene, you can use SP to effortlessly step into a lucid dream, which is by far the most profound (non-drug induced) experience a person can have.

It's so frustrating to hear people complaining about it. Such a waste of the gift.
 
Back in the day, when I was taking a lot of opiates, I was on a plane ride and I was falling asleep and jerking when 'waking up.' The person next to me must have thought I was nuts. I was hoping I didn't hit her unintentionally. It was embarrassing.
 
Umm guys...sleep paralysis isn't a bad thing. If you just relax and visualize a scene, you can use SP to effortlessly step into a lucid dream, which is by far the most profound (non-drug induced) experience a person can have.

It's so frustrating to hear people complaining about it. Such a waste of the gift.

True but SP can be very unpleasant (I had some with my GBL use).
 
I've had it on and off for about 10 years with the peak of it happening when I was prescribed Percocet for 3 years. I can remember vividly some of the worst or weirdest times where I hallucinated/felt a rat running up my bed and I would jolt awake RIGHT before it crawled up to my face.

I've found for me that it happens when I take naps. When I was using opiates and not working a 9 to 5 I would sleep in the middle of the day and it would almost always happen. Now sometimes when I home from work at 5 and pass right out and it'll happen then too.

The hardest part for me is the struggling to snap awake. When it happens now I am kind of aware that its happening and I try to move but can't; I think that since I know it's happening I can have control over it but never do. I'll think that I've snapped out of it but won't and I'll struggle for what feels like an hour, back and forth, to get awake. Sometimes it happens and I try to move and I IMAGINE that I fell off the bed and expect to wake up on the floor, then I'll simply wake up in the bed and be like WTF?

What's your weirdest sleep paralysis experiences? Mine would be when I was taking a nap at my old apartment and I hallucinated that my roomate's Mom was outside of my room talking. I never met her before. So when I woke I asked me roomate "Was your Mom over?" and she said no and looked at me like I was crazy. So flash forward about a week and I met her mom for the first time - she sounded exactly like she did in my sleep paralysis-based dream. I bugged out...
 
I suffer from this perpetually, and it's probably the worst thing I've ever experienced in my life. And I experience it like every other day. Truly horrible, and I've never been able to curve it to a positive, as some have. I wouldn't wish this stuff on my worst enemy.

Try sleeping with a light/tv on.
 
Umm guys...sleep paralysis isn't a bad thing. If you just relax and visualize a scene, you can use SP to effortlessly step into a lucid dream, which is by far the most profound (non-drug induced) experience a person can have.

It's so frustrating to hear people complaining about it. Such a waste of the gift.

While I completely agree with you, and am moving forward slowly in developing my SP in to more a productive/enlightening experience, you gotta admit it can be pretty freaky and panic-inducing.

Just this morning I had a mild bout of SP, and while I no longer suffer from "The Fear" because I've get SP very often, I still tried to fight myself awake (which as we all know just makes it worse :D )

previouslyhere said:
The hardest part for me is the struggling to snap awake. When it happens now I am kind of aware that its happening and I try to move but can't; I think that since I know it's happening I can have control over it but never do. I'll think that I've snapped out of it but won't and I'll struggle for what feels like an hour, back and forth, to get awake.

I know precisely what you mean! When you're trying to fight it, it seems like it's dragging on forever, when really it's only probably been about 20-30 seconds :D

These days, because I'm so seasoned, if you will, in SP, I find it really amusing at the time if/when I'm struggling to rouse myself and I keep going around in a loop of thinking I'm awake, then realising I'm still stuck in the paralysis, then thinking I'm finally awake, then realising I'm still in SP. It can be frustrating but most of the time if that happens it's just amusing :)
 
Sleep paralysis freaks me out, the worst part is hearing sinister voices and seeing 'entities'. I usually end up trying to scream for somebody to wake me up, but of course I can't because I'm paralysed....

Yeah the voice's is what really creates the fear for me.

I'm yet to have a enjoyable SP experience, the first time i experienced it i just had to be dreaming of the concept of 'Hell' before waking up into SP so it spilled over into reality, which is still to this day the scariest experience of my life.

Hearing demonic voice's, watching shadows run along my walls and my ceiling glowing white, while my bed was covered in thick darkness, been unable to move or talk.. lasted about 30seconds..

I don't doubt for a second that it can be transformed into a positive even enlightening experience, but im yet to reach that yet.. as soon as my mind makes the connection between the dream world and reality it spirals into fear. I remember a while ago now when i was training my mind to create SP and lucid experiences.. and when it actually worked with the method i was using.. i was awe-struck.
 
What a great thread--- spanning for almost 5 years lol! I just posted a new one on sleep paralysis and found this one.

I am an Oxycodone user and experience horrible SP all the time. I used to get it before I did opiates, however, specifically when I would fall asleep in class on my desk. It was so scary because there were 30 people in the class and I'd hallucinate that I was falling off my desk or slipping away.... in reality, I never moved an inch.

More recently, my sleep paralysis happens at night when I do OC--- sometimes I wake up gasping for breath, sometimes my ears are shaking with this crazy noise, most recently I felt this horrible pain in my abdomen and felt completely disorietned and horribel and thought I was having a heart attack or something! It was so scary, I thought I was dying in my sleep. When I wokeup, I had no pain at all and was completely fine.

I often hyperventilate in my sleep from the fear of not being able to wake up, and fear people are trying to wake me up or talk to me but can't. Ughh... as interesting as it is, I really hate sleep paralysis. One morning I woke up, then closed my eyes for a milisecond and lost all control of my body and went into SP--- then I woke up again, closed my eyes, and the same thing. Repeated the cycle like 5 times.... it SUCKED!!!! Anyway, keep this thread alive guys!
 
I've had it multiple times from when I was as young as 7 or 8. It was initially a waking dream that all the creatures from the movie 'Gremlines' were crawling out of holes in the walls and slowly pulling me apart... I felt fully awake and saw all of it as though I was having full open eye hallucinations (although I'm sure my eyes were closed).

I've also had one bout where I thought my whole body had been replaced by some kind of machine and that my mind would be trapped inside this machine with no control of the body for the rest of my life which was pretty terrifying. This was induced by playing 12 hours of fallout 3 while in bed sick and I haven't been able to play the game since haha....

The most terrifying one, however, was every night for a week or two about a month ago where I would feel like I was awake and would then try and move. Of course I was unable to but I continued to try and force myself up. I remember feeling like and seeing myself push myself up off my stomach with my hands (with HUGE resistance from some weight on my back) until I was almost able to get up but then I would 'blink' or drop my concentration on it for a second and realize that I hadn't actually moved at all.... On one or two of those nights I remember someone or something clouded in shadow in the corner of my room watching me and on one occasion it was advancing towards me before I awoke in an unbelievable panic...

It's really scary shit but every time I have it I look back on it and try and appreciate it because it truly is an amazing experience, despite the fear. I would love to be able to control it next time and I'm sure I could with mental preparation but it's just impossible to know when it's going to happen!
 
One morning I woke up, then closed my eyes for a milisecond and lost all control of my body and went into SP--- then I woke up again, closed my eyes, and the same thing. Repeated the cycle like 5 times.... it SUCKED!!!!

Yep I get this often, it can be confusing and frustrating but sometimes after I actually wake up I find it amusing. Kinda like I'd been fooled again by SP! =D

Moguta said:
The most terrifying one, however, was every night for a week or two about a month ago where I would feel like I was awake and would then try and move. Of course I was unable to but I continued to try and force myself up. I remember feeling like and seeing myself push myself up off my stomach with my hands (with HUGE resistance from some weight on my back) until I was almost able to get up but then I would 'blink' or drop my concentration on it for a second and realize that I hadn't actually moved at all.... On one or two of those nights I remember someone or something clouded in shadow in the corner of my room watching me and on one occasion it was advancing towards me before I awoke in an unbelievable panic...
This is a classic example of how SP manifests, particularly with the threatening image/figure in the room, and the panic of trying to force yourself up but can't move. It is terrifying isn't it!
Had you taken any recreational substances before the most recent stint of SP?
 
Drewmanad - It sounds like you are either very, very lucky to have good experiences with sleep paralysis, or that you have never had an actual sleep paralysis episode. If you truly get sleep paralysis episodes and enjoy them, you are in the minority.

While you may have good experiences with it, that is incredibly rare. Most people cannot relax and definitely would never call this sleep disorder a "gift". Most peoples experiences are absolutely terrifying. Most people feel a dark presence around when they are in an episode and other confusing, very frightening things going on around them, threatening them while they lay there unable to move. I have had hypnopompic/hypnagogic hallucinations of a dark, terrifying presence jumping on my chest and suffocating me while I lay there unable to move, and other even more disturbing ones that I wont even type out.
Sometimes I will have this over and over and over again in one night, and it completely fucks my sleep up. There have been times in my life when I was younger where my sleep paralysis has gotten to bad that it has actually interfered with my day to day life. I would HARDLY call it a gift. This isn't like lucid dreaming or astro projecting. While you may find it pleasant, you are VERY lucky because most people who deal with sleep paralysis have absolutely terrifying experiences and cannot just "relax and enjoy their 'gift'". It's pretty hard to relax when it feels like something is on top of you smothering you and you can't move. 8) Until you've experiences what I, and most others do during sleep paralysis, don't even judge.


Anyyywayyys... I've had sleep paralysis since I was 8, I'm 22 now. I can remember the first time I got it like it was yesterday. I didn't start getting the sleep hallucinations until after the first few years. I never knew what it was or that other people got it until I was 17, and finally googled "sleep paralysis" and found out it was a condition, and that other people had it too. I grew up in a religious atmosphere and was once told by someone at my church that it was the devil, which made it all the more frightening. Now that I know what it is, it is easier to deal with when it happens but its definitely still a terrifying experience. I also noticed the older I got the better I got at forcing myself out of them.

I hate sleep paralysis, but I do find it incredibly interesting (to research, NOT to experience) in that I think it gives some insight into human consciousness.

A couple things I find really interesting, is that My mom used to get sleep paralysis when she was younger but it eventually just stopped in her 20s, and my 18 year old blood niece, who was adopted to a family at age 5, and reunited with us 11 years later also gets it badly. Last I read, they suspected it could be genetic but weren't sure yet - but obviously it can be, because what are the chances that all 3 of us in the same family have it? Also, my niece and I find that sometimes doing MDMA/ecstasy can trigger episodes. Not always the next night after doing it, but within a few days. No other drug has ever triggered episodes for me except e. Last year, I did some AMAZING ecstasy and had bad sleep paralysis for the following week - EVERY fucking night. I finally went and got some benzos and it stopped.

They think that sleep paralysis happens when you wake up during your REM cycle (in which you are paralyzed to prevent you from acting out your dreams) and you're awake but the paralysis is still there, which makes a lot of sense. Kind of like the opposite of sleep walking? So, I'm guessing that maybe certain drugs, like MDMA and opiates, or etc maybe fuck with your sleep cycles and triggers episodes in some people? I've heard of some people who NEVER get sleep paralysis unless they do MDMA. Its strange...
 
Drewmanad - While you may find it pleasant, you are VERY lucky because most people who deal with sleep paralysis have absolutely terrifying experiences and cannot just "relax and enjoy their 'gift'". It's pretty hard to relax when it feels like something is on top of you smothering you and you can't move. 8) Until you've experiences what I, and most others do during sleep paralysis, don't even judge.

Hang on hang on, let's not get too narky here. I appreciate that it's a sensitive subject for you because sleep paralysis has caused you a lot of grief and disruptions to your sleep patterns. For years I was the same, I hated it and feared it. If I was having a multiple-night episode of SP I would try and stay up all night just so I wouldn't get it.
But I can understand what Drewmanad is saying because now that I'm so used to it, I actually enjoy it. I enjoy the challenge of getting myself to wake up, I find the hallucinations intriguing, and even though sometimes I am still scared when it happens, I very quickly realise that it's SP and just sit back and relax and wait for it to end. It's all about using the power of your mind to get back from a state of terror that it created in the first place! :)

A couple things I find really interesting, is that My mom used to get sleep paralysis when she was younger but it eventually just stopped in her 20s, and my 18 year old blood niece, who was adopted to a family at age 5, and reunited with us 11 years later also gets it badly. Last I read, they suspected it could be genetic but weren't sure yet - but obviously it can be, because what are the chances that all 3 of us in the same family have it?

I haven't read anything about it being genetic, but that is very interesting that 3 people in your family get it. It certainly does suggest a possible genetic component. But then again, I come from a family of 7, and no-one else in my family has ever had SP...

Also, my niece and I find that sometimes doing MDMA/ecstasy can trigger episodes.

Yep, every single time I use MDMA I get sleep paralysis for 3-5 nights afterwards, without fail. Serotonin is an important neurochemical for sleep so it might have something to do with the depletion of serotonin after using MDMA.

They think that sleep paralysis happens when you wake up during your REM cycle (in which you are paralyzed to prevent you from acting out your dreams) and you're awake but the paralysis is still there, which makes a lot of sense.

Yep this is exactly right. It can also occur when you are initially going to sleep (there is a period of REM sleep then too), but more often when you're waking up. Most of the time I get it when I'm just coming out of my final sleep phase in the morning, but sometimes if I'm suffering from it badly I'll get it in the middle of the night in between sleep cycles, which is usually much more scary because the room is dark!
 
Sorry, I wasn't trying to be too snarky. I see your point and what you are saying, but to say he gets "frustrated' at people for "complaining" about this "gift" sort of got to me, because while I see what you are saying, it's not always that easy and I definitely would never call it a "gift". So to tell people they are "complaining" is a little bit insensitive considering most people are not lucky enough to be able to view it as a gift. I definitely deal with it much better now that I know what it is, but there is still only so much control I have over what happens. No matter how many times I have tried to will my mind to change things, it just doesn't happen...esp. when I feel like I'm being smothered by an invisible presence and can't breathe (I don't know if I AM breathing and just feel like Im not or what, but its terrifying.)
:0/ I wasn't trying to be snarky, but I just don't think its cool to tell people their 'complaining" over something as terrifying as SP is "frustrating" you. Maybe he didn't mean it like it came off but sometimes sleep paralysis IS a bad thing and its not quite as easy as just relaxing and enjoying this "gift". :0/
 
^^ Yeah I see your point too hun :)
What methods do you have that you use to try and get out of it?
 
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