Sleep paralysis ?!?!?! - MEGA MERGED

[Flailing_Gypsy]

I've been experiencing sleep paralysis since I was 7 years old. I remember the first time it happened like it was yesterday. It terrified me when I was a kid, especially because I grew up very strictly religious and was told it was Satan. lol. I didn't figure it out until I was about 19. I had a bad episode of it and finally googled 'sleep paralysis' and found out that I wasn't the only one. When I brought it up to my mom, she told me she used to get it a lot when she was younger too. And my niece, who my family was reunited with 5 years ago, told us she started getting it when she was 13. Makes me wonder if there is a genetic component. It's definitely not a pleasant experience, but it's much easier to deal with now that I know it's not the devil, haha.

 

[crOOk]

I've been experiencing sleep paralysis since I was 7 years old. I remember the first time it happened like it was yesterday. It terrified me when I was a kid, especially because I grew up very strictly religious and was told it was Satan. lol. I didn't figure it out until I was about 19. I had a bad episode of it and finally googled 'sleep paralysis' and found out that I wasn't the only one. When I brought it up to my mom, she told me she used to get it a lot when she was younger too. And my niece, who my family was reunited with 5 years ago, told us she started getting it when she was 13. Makes me wonder if there is a genetic component. It's definitely not a pleasant experience, but it's much easier to deal with now that I know it's not the devil, haha.

Have you tried utilizing it the way I described? It can most definitely be an exceptionally pleasant experience.

 

[QUARE]

The first time I suffered Sleep paralysis was 18 or 19 years old I believe. The first few experience were not so terrifying but intresting. I didnt know what it was since a talked about it to a freind and he told me it was sleep paralysis. I had other terrifying episode when I was a kid which are pretty hard to explain but it felt like NMDA antagonist dissociation. I was waking up at night having difficulty to control my body, it was very different to sleep paralysis because I cold walk and grab things but it was so horrible. I believe it linked to my head accident when I was 3 years old, My forhead hit a tree at 50km/h or more, I was in a sleigh. This could have damage my frontal lobe I even have a line in my skull so I got a forhead fracture...

Anyway sleep paralysis was happening during I was 18-19 years old then it stopped for a few years and It started again at 21 years old and stopped again suddently. Now I have not suffered sleep paralysis for a while.

Sleep paralysis is very horrifying. Its like a fell into a hole and then there this sound that become louder and louder then I get very scared and try to scream but I cant because im paralyse. I start panic and try to wake up until it finally end. During what I describe, I often hallucinate people that looks evil or dangerous and yes I see my room even if my eyes are closed.

 

[crOOk]

I really dislike sleep paralysis while it's happening but, also look forward to it and find it incredibly interesting.
The only other experience I can relate this to is salvia divinorum.

Well have YOU tried leaving your body behind when it happens? I can't believe there are so many people in this thread just denying themselves the possibilities that this phenomenom offers. Sp isn't where it has to stop, it's where the interesting part can take it's beginning. Most of all though, it doesn't have to be an uncomfortable experience at all, yet no one who "suffers" sp in here seems to WANT to appreciate that.

 

[Foreigner]

Well have YOU tried leaving your body behind when it happens? I can't believe there are so many people in this thread just denying themselves the possibilities that this phenomenom offers. Sp isn't where it has to stop, it's where the interesting part can take it's beginning. Most of all though, it doesn't have to be an uncomfortable experience at all, yet no one who "suffers" sp in here seems to WANT to appreciate that.

I agree with you about the possibilities but I can't support the presumption that SP must naturally lead to an OBE and that should be the goal of people who have it. Not everyone is ready to leave their body and some never will.

 

[QUARE]

Well have YOU tried leaving your body behind when it happens? I can't believe there are so many people in this thread just denying themselves the possibilities that this phenomenom offers. Sp isn't where it has to stop, it's where the interesting part can take it's beginning. Most of all though, it doesn't have to be an uncomfortable experience at all, yet no one who "suffers" sp in here seems to WANT to appreciate that.

When I start hearing this damn sound becoming so loud and sound like an alarm in my head and then try to scream out loud but cant because I see evil people around me and I cant do a shit to protect me self againt them, it pretty hard to appreciate the experience.

Though, I can tell you I had 2 experience that was not scary where one I was falling out into the object around me in this case the walls and my bed, its hard to explain but I was falling like in a black hole even if there was object to suport my body. The second one I stood up and walked totally fucked up outside of my room, I felt like I was on powerful dissociatives ( I was not walking for real, I was in my bed). Those two experience were pretty different to all my others SP experience but most of them are SO terrifying.

IRL I wouldnt scream if I was in danger, unless I was trapped somewhere out of power. But during SP im so powerless against this that my only hope is screaming but I cant.

I have a little question too, are there any doctor that accutally try to treat this or its only some scientifics that studies the phenomen ?

 

[crOOk]

When I start hearing this damn sound becoming so loud and sound like an alarm in my head and then try to scream out loud but cant because I see evil people around me and I cant do a shit to protect me self againt them, it pretty hard to appreciate the experience.

Though, I can tell you I had 2 experience that was not scary where one I was falling out into the object around me in this case the walls and my bed, its hard to explain but I was falling like in a black hole even if there was object to suport my body. The second one I stood up and walked totally fucked up outside of my room, I felt like I was on powerful dissociatives ( I was not walking for real, I was in my bed). Those two experience were pretty different to all my others SP experience but most of them are SO terrifying.

IRL I wouldnt scream if I was in danger, unless I was trapped somewhere out of power. But during SP im so powerless against this that my only hope is screaming but I cant.

I have a little question too, are there any doctor that accutally try to treat this or its only some scientifics that studies the phenomen ?

I've fallen through my bed plenty of times. Sometimes it felt as if the bed is actually turned upside down very quickly. I've been catapulted out of the window. Dwarves would walk into my room to torture me. Table tennis balls would move around underneith my skin causing extreme physical discomfort. Electro shocks were very common, too. The list goes on...

I KNOW sp can be scary and it can be very painful as well. Sometimes I'd experience cluster episodes of waking up in the same state dozens (!) of times in a row.

I know of no doctors who actually treat sleep paralysis. There are of course a few studies, usually conducted by psychologists. There are a few demographical studies as well. I remember one that showed a high incidence of bipolar disorder and schizophrenia in people who experience sp (was around 25% if I remember correctly). Other than that, I know of no effective treatment except cannabis, which probably will not work for everyone either.

I'm also pretty convinced that these aren't really "hypnagogic hallucinations", but a special type of dream instead. If you have a partner who can watch you, he will tell you that your eyes are closed during the experience. Often the room is lit, despite being pitch black in reality. Objects will be placed differently. When in unfamiliar surroundings, the room only vaguely resembles the room you are sleeping in.

I think the term sleep paralysis is slightly less misleading than hypnagogic hallucinations, but I'm still convinced approaching this as hallucinations that happen while you are awake wrong.

Maybe cannot get to where I got when I first found out about astral travelling as easily as I did, but I'd still strongly urge you to try it. First of all you have to lose the fear!! The vibration (or whatever unpleasant sensation you perceive it as) does NOT need to be loud and it does not need to be painful. Just accept that and try to look forward to seeing it as something pleasant. Remember that YOU are in control of your astral body and not the entities entering your room. You'll eventually have more control over that body than you have over the one made of flesh.

I'd really recommend checking out that book I recommended, it's what did the trick for me.

 

[0057]

I wish I could get past the fear and experience a lucid dream. Unfortunately, my greatest fear IS paralysis. The only way I've ever woke myself from SP was with a manly scream haha! Fuking terrifying to me. Since I've switched from Dilaudid to subutex it doesn't happen anymore though, been at least a year since an episode. One love

 

[QUARE]

I know of no effective treatment except cannabis, which probably will not work for everyone either.

lol, I believe my first few episodes where cause by Cannabis, it started happening when I lost control over my Cannabis use then it suddently stop when I stop smoking weed. Then the second few episodes started when I was useing Etizolam and also stoped when I stopped using the drug. It seems like drugs were fucking with my brain.

I'm also pretty convinced that these aren't really "hypnagogic hallucinations", but a special type of dream instead. If you have a partner who can watch you, he will tell you that your eyes are closed during the experience. Often the room is lit, despite being pitch black in reality. Objects will be placed differently. When in unfamiliar surroundings, the room only vaguely resembles the room you are sleeping in.

I believe my eyes are closed since im paralysed but the room I see is exactly like it is in reality as I see it when those things come scaring me. The scariest experience I had was when this thing took the apparence of my mother I thought she was coming to save me then it took a very scary apparence and then I totally freaked out. Then I awake and see that theres no one in my room and I get so confused sometime.

I think the term sleep paralysis is slightly less misleading than hypnagogic hallucinations, but I'm still convinced approaching this as hallucinations that happen while you are awake wrong.

Im not sure about it, SP is known to happen when your brain awake and your body is still asleep.

Maybe cannot get to where I got when I first found out about astral travelling as easily as I did, but I'd still strongly urge you to try it. First of all you have to lose the fear!! The vibration (or whatever unpleasant sensation you perceive it as) does NOT need to be loud and it does not need to be painful. Just accept that and try to look forward to seeing it as something pleasant. Remember that YOU are in control of your astral body and not the entities entering your room. You'll eventually have more control over that body than you have over the one made of flesh.

I'd really recommend checking out that book I recommended, it's what did the trick for me.

To be honest I already tried this because I thought it would lead to OBE but the sound I hear always get me scared as fuck when it become louder and louder, it feels like im going to explode or die in a matter of seconds.

 

[crOOk]

lol, I believe my first few episodes where cause by Cannabis, it started happening when I lost control over my Cannabis use then it suddently stop when I stop smoking weed. Then the second few episodes started when I was useing Etizolam and also stoped when I stopped using the drug. It seems like drugs were fucking with my brain.

Everyone is different. I can't sleep through anymore since I'm on 150mg quetiapine. Wake up 3-6 times per night.

I believe my eyes are closed since im paralysed but the room I see is exactly like it is in reality as I see it when those things come scaring me. The scariest experience I had was when this thing took the apparence of my mother I thought she was coming to save me then it took a very scary apparence and then I totally freaked out. Then I awake and see that theres no one in my room and I get so confused sometime.

If you think about how your brain memorizes things, you should come to the conclusion that that's a contradiction. The room might look the way you remember it, but it could impossibly look the exact same way, unless you can magically see through your eyelids. Try sleeping in complete darkness. You will find there will be a lot more light when you experience "sleep paralysis".

Im not sure about it, SP is known to happen when your brain awake and your body is still asleep.

The fact that sleep paralysis is a real phenomenom that happens while we dream in no way means that you are actually perceiving your surroundings with your senses when you dream to be waking up paralyzed. It would rather suggest that our sleeping self can somehow notice that your body is paralyzed while in this particular dream state.

To be honest I already tried this because I thought it would lead to OBE but the sound I hear always get me scared as fuck when it become louder and louder, it feels like im going to explode or die in a matter of seconds.

I'm very glad you're being honest with us, but I'm afraid this currently is your only option, shaking off the fear and embracing the state as the first stop towards what is referred to as astral travel. I wish you good luck!

 

[deadsi]

Hi guys,
I came upon this thread trying to figure out what's happening to me.
My experience is slightly different in that most people seem to get this after using whereas I always get it when I'm starting to withdraw, like after missing a days meth or not being able to score on a given day, sweaty and uncomfy but able to fall asleep. Main thing is though that most people report realising they're dreaming or waking and not being able to move/fully wake. For me its that I will have a nightmare,usually an entity trying to hurt me, suffocating, and I try to scream for help. Finding I have no voice I try harder and harder till I either hear myself screaming help,or sometimes just mumumuh or lalala, and wake up..or more often I hear someone else,who heard me, trying to wake me. I don't recall ever realising I'm dreaming and not being able to wake up promptly in this situation, though I had those kind of episodes too, not associated with that slight state of withdrawal though. So is this sleep paralysis too or some other phenomenon?
Thanks

 

[Maya]

^I used to get those as well, the thing though is I always feel like something is touching a part of my body but the difference between you and me is that I can fight it off, move my body until I wake up. I say see if you can wiggle your body and see if you can wake up that way. I have learned to do it when I was 12 years old and I was sick of getting scared as to what was happening to me. Just always remember that it is just a dream and it can't hurt you.

 

[crOOk]

Hi guys,
I came upon this thread trying to figure out what's happening to me.
My experience is slightly different in that most people seem to get this after using whereas I always get it when I'm starting to withdraw, like after missing a days meth or not being able to score on a given day, sweaty and uncomfy but able to fall asleep. Main thing is though that most people report realising they're dreaming or waking and not being able to move/fully wake. For me its that I will have a nightmare,usually an entity trying to hurt me, suffocating, and I try to scream for help. Finding I have no voice I try harder and harder till I either hear myself screaming help,or sometimes just mumumuh or lalala, and wake up..or more often I hear someone else,who heard me, trying to wake me. I don't recall ever realising I'm dreaming and not being able to wake up promptly in this situation, though I had those kind of episodes too, not associated with that slight state of withdrawal though. So is this sleep paralysis too or some other phenomenon?
Thanks

Not sleep paralysis, nope. Sorry I cannot be of more help.

 

[mygreenbic]

I h8 sleep paralysis

I suffer from this perpetually, and it's probably the worst thing I've ever experienced in my life. And I experience it like every other day. Truly horrible, and I've never been able to curve it to a positive, as some have. I wouldn't wish this stuff on my worst enemy.

Completely agree with this guy. I suffer from it every time I go to sleep. So either im suffering sleep paralysis or I am insomniatic as to not experience it. It is absolutely awful. See if this helps you http://stopsleepparalysis.org .. It seems that because of our western style of medicine they refuse to acknowledge the spiritual aspect of it. This video explains it pretty well. Although Im not sure if IM a christian, it seems there may be something to that. It seems that everything I read says that calling on Jesus for help makes the demons and the sleep paralysis go away. Of course there as to be intention behind the word. You cant just use it like abracadbra. The video will explain. Im not a bible thumper as to say but I have been studying occult intensely for years now and right now Im kind of on the gnostic path studying saturn and synchronicity. But it seems as if in almost all occult activity Jesus and the Bible both have a huge role in most of their practices. Either they hate or love him but either way they are acknowledging him as a spiritual mastermind of some sort. Believe me when I tell you not to follow the whole zeitgeist thing. That is to pull blinders over your eyes. It is related to unesco trying to convert everyone away from their spiritual beliefs. So about Jesus, I don't know but it seems pretty convincing lately, everything I come across has something to do with him. Now even on a drug forum. It is extremely rare for anyone to stop sleep paralysis (at least in literature) without this Jesus Christian method. I would check it out in the video or do some research for yourself. Like I said Im not preaching about Jesus, just trying to find my spiritual path and the path to stop this sleep paralysis as well. Anyone that has experienced this has to admit you feel an extremely evil presence. And if you know anything about duality.... Let me know what you think.
On the other hand, if you know anything about project bluebeam, ultra low frequencies, and haarp, it is also possible that our government is doing this to us because of the steep rise in cases. I know most people are programmed to think that I may be a conspiracy theorist for saying something like that and that that could be a bad thing but it is a whole different topic. I appreciate any help anyone has to offer.
mygreenbic
@sp0r412

 

[mygreenbic]

Sleep paralysis is a fucked up thing . Ive noticed When i consume a high amount of opiates in a day or string of days I get sleep paralysis .... This shit is scary . Ive figured a way to pull myself out of it but it involves a jerking movement .. I mean a Large violent movement . Does anyone know how to Completely avoid having this ? Mostly because when im staying at a girls house i hate having to jerk out of it ... Its kinda imberessing to do when im in a womens bed ... Especially one that i dont know very well .... If you dont know what this is , heres a link on what it is .

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sleep_paralysis

They say its from sleep deprivation or abnormal sleep habits But it only happens to me when i get high on opiates the day before . Help me Plzzors!!!

I cant jerk out of it. I cant even move enough to open my mouth to screem. I mostly groan as loud as I can until someone enters the room then I can move again and the evil presence fades

 

[mygreenbic]

I used to get SP almost every night for a couple month period there until I quit using MDMA. I know exactly what you mean, it's freaky shit. As far as prevention methods.. I found it tends to happen more often when sleeping on my back or stomach. Try sleeping on your sides, that helps me.

Sorry,
One more.
Be careful about sleeping on your side. Because I get sleep paralysis that way as well, and once my face was burried almost all the way in my pillow and I almost suffocated.

 

[steve022]

It's the opiates. Opiates mess with sleep patterns and it's probably causing this to happen.

 

[mygreenbic]

Nah, I rarely do opiates anymore. It happens to me quite often going to sleep sober as well. There are some things that are just mysteries.

 

[crOOk]

I just thought I'd mention this: For those among you experiencing excessive daytime sleepiness or sleep attacks, you could get yourself checked for atypical (without cataplexy) narcolepsy.

Completely agree with this guy. I suffer from it every time I go to sleep. So either im suffering sleep paralysis or I am insomniatic as to not experience it. It is absolutely awful. See if this helps you http://stopsleepparalysis.org .. It seems that because of our western style of medicine they refuse to acknowledge the spiritual aspect of it.

I've had a very different approach to escaping sleep paralysis (OBE's), but actually tackling this issue on a spiritual level seems to be the only real solution.
I've also been saying this over and over and over and everyone seems to prefer ignoring it. I got rid of my sleep paralysis which was pretty fucking horrible and lasted over 5 years. As it turned out it allowed me to have one of the most beautiful experiences of my life after all. I'm not gonna repeat everything I've said, most people here can't help but self-victimize instead of making any efforts to stop their sleep paralysis from occuring.

 

[higherconciousness]

My SP has been very severe lately. At its worst I'll be up all night falling in and out of SP. I've experienced this phenomenon since I can recall my dreams, around age 4-5. I notice when I fight the sensation and try to wake up, it only increases the intensity of the episodes. It really is a fascinating occurrence and can produce some of the most intense OBE I've ever had. Its peculiar that when under the spell of SP, It takes on a sinister nature. Always accompanied by intense panic, feelings of vulnerability, fear, and at the peak, a sensation akin to being electrocuted and torn apart by an evil entity.

I've also noticed that opiates can increase the chance of sleep paralysis as well.