sleep issues from mdma

[xxxyakinikuxxx]

It really is amazing how multiple people can do the same drugs, in the same amounts, at the same time and experience completely different consequences. I think that's why there's so much heated debate on BL.

You get some people who have never had any lasting effects from mdma and they can't understand how other people get so messed up (and will tend to blame this on overreacting/exaggerating symptoms).

Oppositely, you get people who's world gets completely rocked by this drug and they can't comprehend how anybody could argue in its favor or see it as anything other than poison.

The truth seems to depend on the individual. Some people hate alcohol. I used to love it and couldn't understand when people decided not to drink on a night out.

Clearly, there are consequences for everything but unfortunately for some more than others. On the weekend that messed me up I thought I was being 'responsible' when I decided to 'only' take 4 pills when the other guys I was with took something like 8. However, life never lacking its ironic twists, I was the only one that got messed up.

Unfortunately, we can't see inside our brains and know the potential vulnerabilities we have before doing stuff like this. It really is a roll of the dice.

One thing is clear, for certain people mdma does cause very real damage even in 'reasonable' amounts. Sucks to be one of those people.

 

[futura2012]

Yeah very well put. There certainly has been some debate of recent with the pros and cons being discussed.

Personally I dont see it as poison I just see it as having potential dangers some of which as you rightly put are very difficult to see particularly if you are in the early stages of taking it.

For me I got away with no real detected problems for 18 years or more then my world caved in. Looking back however I think there were some tell tale signs I just didnt equate them to MDMA use.

Before any of this I knew nothing about safe dosing, testing or even redosing. I found myself at festivals several times often taking Es over several days often taking 10-15 tabs over this time and always got away with it. I think once I got into my 30s my memory started to fail a bit and also my behaviour I think was effected but nothing that particularly bothered me. It was only when these coctails came along that I got really fucked up.

I wonder if without the pipe coctails I would still be happily taking MDMA in a state of ignorant bliss with high doses, redoses, multiple day binges etc. Difficult to say but I suspect one day it would have caught up with me.

The piperazine thing is weird thizzin got effected by it and was only 18 years old and has suffered now for three years so it doesnt necessarily need a lifetime of abuse to suffer from this combo. I think some of us are just more prone than others. I do accept the argument that abuse, high dose or adulterated product is more likely to cause issues than if you follow the HR rules but even then not everyone is immune from the potential problems.

I just wish I had discovered Bluelight years ago. With the information I have now I dont think I would be in the state I am in if I had used tested product and been a bit more sensible with dosing etc.

Oh well no looking back only forward hopefully one day I will wake up my normal self..

 

[shouldvestayedhome]

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I just wish I had discovered Bluelight years ago. With the information I have now I dont think I would be in the state I am in if I had used tested product and been a bit more sensible with dosing etc.[/QUOTE]

This resonates with me on so many different levels.