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Sinning, as Jesus and the church say, is good. Turn or burn Christians.

Gnostic Bishop said:
Intelligently speaking, you are wrong.

Biblically speaking, you are correct, which indicates that you know that biblically speaking, you have no free will, idiot. So why would Yahweh deny non-believers fait?

Are non-believers doomed by Divine Design?

Scriptures say that God decides if a person will be a believer or non-believer. Those scriptures are shown in this link.



Those quotes seems to really screw up the free will notion that Christians say God gives us.

The free will that God offers is kind of a joke anyway given the number of people whose free will to live is ignored in the billions of adults, children and babies that God is shown to torture and murder in scriptures.

If the bible and Yahweh are to be believed, and as a non-believer, I, of course, cannot believe it, thanks to God, by God’s design and will against me, then why did God deny me belief or faith?

Even more important to believers, might be to answer the question of; did God make you a believer in things that you can only hope exists and can never confirm?

Are you happy with God ignoring or negating your free will to think as you please?

I have assumed that God’s work of creating both believers and non-believers is working. If that is so, and you believers must think it so, just as I as a non-believer cannot think it is working, --- and Jesus said that those with faith could do all he did and more, --- then there is not even one believer or person of faith that has ever existed.

Either the bible and Christianity is all a lie, or there must be some who can do what Jesus did.

What is your choice of those two options?

Is the bible and Christianity a lie, or is God just not creating any people with faith, --- which would make all Christians who say they have faith, --- liars.

I mean no insult here but someone is definitely lying, if we read what is written and look at reality and listen to Christians.

What do you think is the truth?

Is it just for God to create people doomed to hell even if they wanted to believe?

Regards
DL
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Don’t send me a video, get off your lazy ass and send me a book, chapter, verse. Or stfu.
 
Gnostic Bishop said:
Can't take the truth eh. It is not surprising that you cannot work a biblical search engine.

Typical Christian air head.

Regards
DL
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I’m not the one mis quoting scrip then sending vids as “ proof”. Don’t worry, you won’t burst into flames if you touch one, god forgives your homo actions in the synagogue lol.
 
wudbutcher said:
It boils down to faith. Either it’s inspired of god or it isn’t. The fact that it has survived all attempts to wipe it out over history, has to mean something. Still accessible in its original, in altered form. It’s an instruction manual. For life. If followed to best of ability, and every promise in the Bible is false, what’s the worst outcome? You’ve led a better than average life. Avoided most pitfalls that come from self guidance. Intelligence is no substitute for teachability or humility. Usually a barrier. When I look back, most of my bad decisions in life result of closed minded thinking. No way I’m getting strung out, I’m better than that. Or, I want that person in my life, I can change their moral compass.
All spiritual roads don’t lead to the same place, no where in Gods book does it say that. It’s not open to interpretation(what owners manual is?)
To respond to the ridiculous shit posts by the OP are mentioned in the Bible though. Throwing pearls before swine.
Maybe if we ignore, he’ll settle down, make peace with the other altar boys, forgive the priest, and move on.
Every minute the devil distracts you is a minute won. Keep that in mind.
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THIS ⬆
I must say Respect! You worded it far better than i could ever.
Imagine the World if people kept to those few rules. Paradise!!! And the debatte getting so heated shows alot. But Wuds post just sums it up perfectly.except that no minute evil wins is good.
 
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Woher waren Sie, Herr @mokele, circa 1529?
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sdxyln said:
Woher waren Sie, Herr @mokele, circa 1529?
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Both Christianity and Islam, slave holding ideologies, have basically developed into intolerant, homophobic and misogynous religions. Both religions have grown themselves by the sword instead of good deeds and continue with their immoral ways in spite of secular law showing them the moral ways.

Jesus said we would know his people by their works and deeds. That means Jesus would not recognize Christians and Muslims as his people, and neither do I. Jesus would call Christianity and Islam abominations.

Gnostic Christians did in the past, and I am proudly continuing that tradition and honest irrefutable evaluation based on morality.

https://topdocumentaryfilms.com/theft-values/



Humanity centered religions, good? Yes. Esoteric ecumenist Gnostic Christianity being the best of these.

Supernaturally based religions, evil? Yes. Islam and Christianity being the worst of these.

Regards
DL
 
There are Christians and there are true Christians. Do you cherish your gift of Life from your Creator? Or like the slave that buried hid Denarius until the Master returned? Or use the gift entrusted to you for good, to the best of your ability? Or squander by trying your absolute best to undermine what little faith that some on this site may be clinging to. To convince the not so learned that there is no hope for mankind? Prick.
2 Timothy 3: 1-7? if memory serves. Sound like the world we live in?Yep.
Revelation 21 :1-4. Gods intended for his children. Sounds like paradise, huh?
His plans never changed. Satans challenge simply delayed, till question was answered.
GB, don’t bring a knife to a gunfight.
I’ll eat you alive with your own reasoning.
Mods, as this is obviously an ass raped alter boy who can no longer dissacociate sexual gratification from cursing God, could ya move this to an appropriate forum? Spirituality is to be uplifting, hopeful. God is love, first and foremost. Whether you call Him fate, the universe, or karma. This is HR site. HR starts with hope.
 
I've just had to delete a few posts. Please avoid being hostile and throwing around insults folks. There's no need for it and it's a real turn off for anyone else considering getting involved in the discussion. Thanks
 
Gnostic Bishop said:
Both Christianity and Islam, slave holding ideologies, have basically developed into intolerant, homophobic and misogynous religions. Both religions have grown themselves by the sword instead of good deeds and continue with their immoral ways in spite of secular law showing them the moral ways.

Jesus said we would know his people by their works and deeds. That means Jesus would not recognize Christians and Muslims as his people, and neither do I. Jesus would call Christianity and Islam abominations.

Gnostic Christians did in the past, and I am proudly continuing that tradition and honest irrefutable evaluation based on morality.

https://topdocumentaryfilms.com/theft-values/



Humanity centered religions, good? Yes. Esoteric ecumenist Gnostic Christianity being the best of these.

Supernaturally based religions, evil? Yes. Islam and Christianity being the worst of these.

Regards
DL
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Sorry, i cant link it. Ever watched from
Frankie goes to Hollywood the vid
" The Power of Love "? Maybe you should.
Its worth it.
 
CFC said:
I've just had to delete a few posts. Please avoid being hostile and throwing around insults folks. There's no need for it and it's a real turn off for anyone else considering getting involved in the discussion. Thanks
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Absolutely LOVE your Avatar!!
Off topic but has to be said 👍
 
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Hey everyone, just wanted to say something. If you see any posts that you feel cross the line into personal attacks, please report them. I have to admit I find GB's threads exhausting and as I am busy around the site and with life, I often don't follow them. If you report something, it will bring it to my attention.
 
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Xorkoth said:
Hey everyone, just wanted to say something. If you see any posts that you feel cross the line into personal attacks, please report them. I have to admit I find GB's threads exhausting and as I am busy around the site and with life, I often don't follow them. If you report something, it will bring it to my attention.
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Could you please close Thread?
I feel i am not alone in that everyone has stated their opinion and its long enough.
In any case thanks for at least considering.
Mo
 
mokele said:
Sorry, i cant link it. Ever watched from
Frankie goes to Hollywood the vid
" The Power of Love "? Maybe you should.
Its worth it.
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I venerate love, as well as the hate it creates. To do otherwise in our dualistic reality, would be silly.

Science has shown how evolution uses that power of love to create its compliment, hate, --- in the Yin Yang sense, --- to our advantage.



Regards
DL
 
Gnostic Bishop said:
Why argue?

To reduce the harm the god and faith religions do to people who are more moral than they are.

Insert gays and women harmed by homophobic and misogynous religions to this quote. You should get an idea of what you should be doing with the homophobic and misogynous mainstream religions if you live by the golden rule.

Please get back to me with your conclusion.

Martin Niemöller
First they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out—because I was not a socialist.
Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out— because I was not a trade unionist.
Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—because I was not a Jew.
Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me.

Regards
DL
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I dont want to argue with you ! I have my belief and hope you find your own Way in life ,
one that fits you, a good one.
Just saw your post now, since noone is willing to even consider another view or opinion on the subject, maybe cause they feel it makes them look "weak ",i dunno,i stopped reading.Niemöllers quote is torn out of context here, it is a warning of facism.
Sorry for the late answer !
GODSPEED
 
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mokele said:
I dont want to argue with you ! I have my belief and hope you find your own Way in life ,
one that fits you, a good one.
Just saw your post now, since noone is willing to even consider another view or opinion on the subject, maybe cause they feel it makes them look "weak ",i dunno,i stopped reading.Niemöllers quote is completely wrong here, it is a warning of facism.
Sorry for the late answer !
GODSPEED
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Look up the definition of fascist and see how it applies perfectly to the mainstream god religions.

If you cannot understand the definitions of words, -----

Regards
DL
 
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