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Shrooming without wanting the "revelations"?

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Pinkpuff

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Hello,
I am about to try shrooms this weekend, so I have been reading up on the threads here on BL. I kept reading about insights and revelations that people had while on them. My question is, what if I want to try it just for fun, minus all those insights? Is that bad? I honestly don't want an intense (or spiritual) experience, because I feel like it would be way too much for me to handle (which is why, obviously, I'm taking a low dose). And I want to know who I am and everything. Are you guys able to go into the trip just for fun and for the experience and kind of not think of all the extras, or are those revelations inevitable?
 
dont eat more than a gram, or like half an 8th. Shrooms are a real trip though kind of hard to avoid revelations and insights with them. The revelations and all can be the best part though I wouldnt really try to avoid them.
 
Yea I think you're right. I think that I'm just worried/scared because I have no idea what to expect! I'm always an overthinker, it gets really annoying...
 
well then you should just do MDMA

a good shroom experience is having those revelations, thats the trip besides the visuals.
 
Just relax and go with the flow. Take them outdoors, during the day, in a safe and beautiful place. :) You'll be glad you did. You might even consider yourself to have had a revelation or two. :)
 
low doses of mushrooms aren't psychedelic enough to provide intense "revelations" or "epiphanies".

If you take 1.5-2.0 grams you should be okay. You may feel very stoned or energetic, colors enhanced, giddy, creative but nothing too trippy or "out of this world".

1 gram may be too weak and you may be desiring stronger effects after its set in.
 
lol even taking a low dose, your gonna trip hard...set and setting, and you seem like your gonna make yourself trip hard....you dont want revelations? thats what its all about... even if they are uncomfortable, they break you down to build you up.....just take them....it gives life more depth
 
Go in with an open mind. Don't try and control or force the trip, that will only lead you into trouble. Some times psychedelic trips can be extremely fun with out a hint of introspection or spirituality (if you are into that). However, depending on multiple variables, like set, and setting, or even just trains of thought can led to a different number of scenarios. If you go in with an open mind, some of the most beautiful, fun trips can be that most enlightening. You can also just end up having a smile on the whole time, having a good laugh. Just go in with a good head on your shoulders, with good environment, and you shouldn't have any problem.
 
Shrooms without revelations is like chocolate cake without the icing. But yeah- there's certainly nothing wrong with diving in with the intent of having fun; the spiritual aspect of psychedelics doesn't really interest me anymore- I simply enjoy the splendour of being awake in reality, albeit a reality morphing into vast Oblongal Chasms of Void.

I find it hard to actually call psychedelic "revelations" revelations- the thought epiphanies are often pretty unsubstantial and lacking in meaning- the nature of psychedelics seems to be to add that epiphanic WTF to any train of thought....That said, the strongest revelations I have encountered occurred on LSD, but they were basically delusional. The state of being that gets my mind open is either through meditation or basic ritual.
 
i am convinced, through my own experienced with mushrooms (even low dose, i don't ever do more than a couple grams) it is IMPOSSIBLE to trip without having profound thoughts, don't do shrooms if you don't want a whole new paradigm.
 
Yeah your pretty much asking/saying you want to try mushrooms but you dont want to trip.

Mushrooms outside+ music = magic :)
 
you want to try mushrooms but you dont want to trip.
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Exactly. If you just want to see some pretty colours, you'd be better off putting some visualisations on Winamp. The psychedelic experience is a holistic one, you can't just pick and choose what you want from it.
 
Don't fear the epiphanies. You won't turn into a religious nutjob unless you choose to.

Just be ready, and then accept whatever happens as nothing more than a trip.

You gotta turn off your mind, relax, and then just float downstream.
 
take 5 grams... by hour 3 fear wont even be a word... or maybe not,, I'd recommend at least 1.5-2 though. However it is a proven scientific fact that mushrooms serve as a catalyst for intense, meaningful, spiritual experiences. Its what they do. Even at low doses I am still constantly provided insights. To me saying you dont want a spiritual experience on mushrooms is like saying you dont want visuals from lsd. Its just part of the experience, for better or worse
 
I agree all the others... you are saying you want to trip without tripping.... HAHA no can do, pal. Shrooms will kick your butt if thats the attitude you take them with... that just pisses them off. They WANT to show you and teach you.... ANY attempt to control or avoid that ALWAYS seems to lead to even more difficult effects. DONT WORRY! You'll be OK.... it's not that bad, really...actually you'll enjoy it... like the surprise of what's going to happen is like part of the thrill of riding a roller coaster youve never been on before. Besides which that intense peak is pretty short on shrooms... 45mins tops, and you will feel yourself starting to come down. Trust us.... ITS WORTH IT... and you will be GLAD YOU DID IT IN THE END! We are all still here, happily recommending it right?


Any what would be the point of LIFE ITSELF if we always knew what was going to happen next?

The revelations ARE THE ENTIRE POINT OF DOING IT. If all you want is some shallow visual effects then go get some of those novelty glasses that make you see rainbows everywhere, and leave the potent Shaman's drugs to those who really want them, not fraidy-cats. Come on.... step up... have a little courage... envision yourself a powerful Indian Brave on a Vision Quest, and everything will be just fine!

Don't bother with a teeny tiny dose... its a waste, and is TOTALLY different than a more proper dose. Try 2 grams dried... should be enough for you to feel what they have to offer, have some important enlightening thoughts and feelings about yourself and the nature of reality that you WILL BE VERY VERY GLAD that you had, but without being ego-shredding or too scary..

If you learn to handle that, then some other time, go up to 3g, and you will have grown the "leg muscles" to handle that too.

How old are you by the way?
 
and a gram can put you out there for sure...

best harm reduction advice based on what OP says is:"don't take mushrooms."
 
I guess everyone's different, but I found that just 1g just gives me a tiny little body buzz and VERY little visual or mental effects... pretty useless, IMO, but that's just my opinion I guess.
 
there are so many variables, mainly shroom potency & mindset, that affect these sorts of things. I've had shrooms that would take even a seasoned tripper fairly deep at around a gram, and i've had shrooms that were pretty mild at around 3 grams. Mindset is equally important. If you're a contemplative person by nature, shrooms will likely make you moreso. And physical setting is also a huge factor and can shape a trip in many ways. If you want something that's just mostly visual, shrooms probably aren't your thing. Probably wanna go with a halogenated 2c-x or something similar.

That being said, i was mainly seeking visuals with my first shroom experience, and it proved to be an out of this world, unrepeatable peak experience. This was with a substantially higher dose though (~5-8g)
 
I've found 'shrooms to either be annoying and inconsequential at low doses, or properly psychedelic ('revelatory', I guess, in the OP's terms) at higher doses. Conversely, I've had a rather deep and strange and interesting experience on low dose (sub-visual) 2C-B, and a purely physical and visual experience on high dose 2C-B. It's just so hard to predict. Set and setting as well as dose, as is so often said, have a massive impact on the nature of the experience; and not always in the most predictable way.
 
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