GettingClean
Bluelighter
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I've heard many good and bad things about ibogaine. I watched somebody on TV using ibogaine to come off heroin and he looked like he was going through hell throwing up everywhere and seeing tracers floating around the air it sounded scary not very pleasant. I don't think it is a miracle drug or anything. Its should really be done in a controlled environment with somebody like a nurse or doctor there every step of the way some people react very badly to the drug And its not something that should go into your body if you have any other drug already in your system such as heroin because it doesn't react well.
You live in Canada too eh? Lol I live in BC it's beautiful here no snow or rain just sunny skies.
Yep he was a dick he has looked right at me and never knew who the hell I was. I was at the gym and he was working out next to me and he just had no clue I was his son. I mean I don't have kids but if I did I would want to at least want to have a picture of them to see what the hell they look like. I mean I recognised him after 5 years still but he didn't know what I looked like.
I've heard many good and bad things about ibogaine. I watched somebody on TV using ibogaine to come off heroin and he looked like he was going through hell throwing up everywhere and seeing tracers floating around the air it sounded scary not very pleasant. I don't think it is a miracle drug or anything. Its should really be done in a controlled environment with somebody like a nurse or doctor there every step of the way some people react very badly to the drug And its not something that should go into your body if you have any other drug already in your system such as heroin because it doesn't react well.
Yes, I'm aware of the precautions to take when engaging in an ibogaine experience, though I don't know much about the scientifics of the substance, I do know there is a treatment facility in BC...
I plan to go to BC one day... Winnipeg sucks lol!!!
~Ms.P
bc has the best weather in all of canada we mabye get snow once a year.
Thank you for your kind words it alwaysbwas something that affected my self esteem all my life It did hurt being a kid wondering why the hell nobody wants me around and now after taking care of mom for years while dads out doing what he wants to do to then he dies and I find out he went out of his way to make sure his own family would never inherit his money it blows my mind to tell you the truth I've tried to figure out why lately and can't seem to figure it out. It was definetly a big factor in why i used drugs to kill my pain but I've learned I can't blame people for my problems steming from addiction its all on me I chose this life now i gotta play these cards blaming people will only make it worse I was ultimately the one who decided to take the pills or to inject the substances I have. There's lots of people that grow up without fathers, have a shitty rough life and don't become addicted to drugs. I think if you wana stay sober you must admit to yourself that your in this spot because of YOU and nothing else its only once you can do this that true change can happen.I'm so sorry you have to go through that, that seems like it would be super painful and weird to me. I have the best dad ever, unfortunately he got diagnosed late last year with ALS (Lou Gehrig's disease) which is fatal 100% of the time within 3-7 years. Currently he has lost most of the use of his arms (it started there), he can't lift them up past just above his waist and has no strength (they are skinny like sticks), though he can still drive. And he can still walk but loses his balance sometimes and can't walk very far before becomes very tired. And I live halfway cross the country and can't sell my house (I bought it one month before the market tanked and if I sold it, after the realtor fees I would be underwater... plus I love where I live but I would probably move to be with him if I could).
I agree it's no miracle cure. However the success rate is quite high. Also, it's true that you shouldn't be currently high from opiates, and if possible it's best to not be physically addicted at the time, however, for most people it blocks withdrawal entirely for a good week or so if you are physically addicted, and the effects of the metabolite nor-ibogaine produces an intense euphoria for weeks afterwards which is fantastic for dealing with PAWS. And the nature of the trip itself confronts the underlying causes of your mental addiction as well as other personal problems. I personally know and have extensively communicated with two individuals who have successfully beat their addictions with ibogaine, and am taking their advice in how to go about this. Neither of them did it under the direct supervision of medical professionals and were both on opiates at the time. If it were possible for me, I'd do it at a medical facility with trained professionals but being that I am in the US, I am not able to find such a setting, and I don't have the money nor the time off work to travel to another country where such clinics are available. I am taking a few days off work for it but that's all I can swing.
Also, I have no illusions that it won't be scary and it's unlikely to be pleasant... that is not what I'm going for. Those I know who have done it and have considerable psychedelic experience (as I do) say that it's super intense and can be quite alarming, but that it's not actually terrifying, it carries you along similarly to how a strong dissociative like ketamine does. I am definitely really nervous about it but also excited. I thought about it for over a month before deciding to actually do it. I truly feel that it is the correct way forward for me. I have cold turkeyed several times, and about 4 years ago I successfully quit for a year. But, I relapsed. I always relapse. I feel that ibogaine is the way to go for me because not only does it deal with withdrawals, but there is an accompanying trip that helps you to confront and deal with the causes of your addiction.
Oh shit really yea sucks having convictions on your record eh I know what you mean lucky I live somewhere I love already and don't feel a need to leave. I can't handle snow man it sucks big time even the bit we get lol i gotta use a chainsaw outside and cut down trees and whatnot it makes everything so much harder and driving in it is scary at times all around frustratingI live in New England and all the snow 70" this year total is FINALLY gone as of last week.. might get a mix of rain and snow tonight though, wont accumulate to anything.
I'd love to visit Canada sometime but im a felon and i gotta jump through hoops to be able to leave the US and then again to get them to let me back in lol.
Thank you for your kind words it alwaysbwas something that affected my self esteem all my life It did hurt being a kid wondering why the hell nobody wants me around and now after taking care of mom for years while dads out doing what he wants to do to then he dies and I find out he went out of his way to make sure his own family would never inherit his money it blows my mind to tell you the truth I've tried to figure out why lately and can't seem to figure it out. It was definetly a big factor in why i used drugs to kill my pain but I've learned I can't blame people for my problems steming from addiction its all on me I chose this life now i gotta play these cards blaming people will only make it worse I was ultimately the one who decided to take the pills or to inject the substances I have. There's lots of people that grow up without fathers, have a shitty rough life and don't become addicted to drugs. I think if you wana stay sober you must admit to yourself that your in this spot because of YOU and nothing else its only once you can do this that true change can happen.
I've been seeing a counsler too for my problems while on suboxone so that's been helpful to talk with someone.
Oh that's interesting about ibogaine I didn't know that i don't know a whole lot about it but once I heard it helped paws I can see the attraction to do it cause paws are hell. I could see how a psychedelic would help with the whole figuring out your reason for using and what drove you be in the position your in because I've used mushrooms before. If you think it'll work for you that's great you should definitely try it and let us know how it went.
Oh really I never knew that there was a ibogaine facility here in BC that's cool there's lots of expensive rehabs you see on shows like intervention here for about 100 000 a person for a month or so but apparently IT'S so nice. All I had was the local detox facility its nice cause its free the staff are awesome and there's good food 3 meals a day you order from a menu and there's lots of yummy stuff. There's also so much food always in the fridge and cupboard like soup and snacks.its nice when you get an appetite back and start mowing down on everything. Lots of junkies go in there once a year or so and sneak in drugs then just hang out eat as much as they possibly can just to get away from the streets for a while IT'S like there vacation lol
But BC is a good place to live you gotta pay lots for taxes but we get free healthcare and bc has the best weather in all of canada we mabye get snow once a year.