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Sexless Relationships.

Meh, I for one never thought I would even consider such thing. Anywho just three questions....:

1. What do you think about it?
2. Can it last?!
3. How the hell do you survive being with someone you are insanely attracted too but have no sex or very little sex?

1. I think at this stage of life, it wouldn't be in my best interests.
2. Sure, if both parties are truly and honestly okay with it and still have trust in each other not to cheat.
3. I don't know, I guess I could say I'm kind of going through that now. You deal with it, talk it out and compromise, or leave.
 
@Kitten: You need to have a conversation with him about what your options truly are.

My fiance and I (3 years strong) have VERY different sexual drives. We have sex on average, once a month, and it's entirely due to HER sex drive. She doesn't even want it that once a month. Our solution? I'm allowed a mistress. Before anyone scoffs, or judges, don't. I am completely faithful to her, and she will absolutely be the person I spend the rest of my life with, but her sex drive simply doesn't meet my needs. Instead of it becoming a problem, we thought outside the box, and have a working solution, that has been working for over 2 years.

The once a month situation allows us to continue to share our intimacy, while the mistress allows me the physical relief I desire.

Zinnnnnggg!
Winning post
 
so yeah he broke everything yesterday...
we havent had sex in now like 5 or 6 days. trying to stop touching sex and porn for one week he couldnt even do.... i wanted to see if a break of it would help. i guess not.
 
It seems to me that he needs a high level of tension to get excited, which is a common by-product of having lots of extreme sex, or masturbating to extreme porn. In fact, it is going to be the next big sexual hang up, I think, because internet porn allows males to virtually experience any sexual fantasy they can think of to a degree not possible before (we are very visual, so seeing it while masturbating is a lot like doing it, at least at first). It is a sliding slope, as you seek something a little more different, then a little more, then a little more....

In the old days, before computers, men got this out of their system by cheating. But that is not even necessary. While I think spiritually that monogamy is a limiting factor, like wearing blinders, some people can have happy lives wearing blinders the whole time. Because while blinders limit your vision in one direction, they make you focus even more on other directions. You get creative with what you have to work with.

What it boils down to is this: Men crave NEWNESS. This is the instinct that has perhaps been most responsible for humanity's ascent in the animal kingdom (assuming you view our position as being superior to other animals, not sure about that myself). This causes us to find new continents and take crazy risks. And it causes death, but also some amazing treasures are found, skills are learned.

The craving for newness is not just in sex, but it does affect sexual relationships. If a female wants a truly healthy relationship with a male, she must simply try to insert something new into the relationship. (I said insert, lol.) It can be anything from saying, "Tonight, let's have sex but we can only touch each other with leather and genitals, so we can get some straps and gloves and see what that is like." or ask him call you by a different name.

I know, you can say in some way each sexual encounter is new because it is original, it has not happened before. But we need the newness FIRST because it is part of the TURN ON phase. So just complaining, "Well, I think every time my man and I make love, we do it a little different and it is new," is not enough.

You don't have to do this every time, it's not like all the weight falls on your shoulders. Once a woman shows she understands and appreciates the delight of newness, the man will naturally feel more comfortable letting out his own ideas for what he thinks would be good and new. He will begin to take charge. Which may in turn surprise and please you (the female).

The cure for internet-port-related-attention-deficit-disorder-making-him-impotent-or-otherwise-hurting-our-sex-live is to realize that a real human "doll" who can THINK of new things to do with a man will beat the hell out of any porn movie you can think of. But woman who kind of lays there and does not invent new stuff to do, who does not add a lot to the mix, who makes the guy feel insecure about suggesting new kinky stuff, is creating a dead end of repetition that will turn him off, wilt him, and cause him to look in another direction for sexual satisfaction and newness.

I myself have gone through this to some degree, have seen what combining drugs, internet porn, masturbation, and sex toys can lead to and it can be mind-blowingly fun, and then going back to some girl who just kind of lays there and wants to hump seems pretty uninspiring, and I have found my mind drifting unintentionally, lost interest in sex with a significant other, etc. But now that my wife and I are back to trying presenting one another with new ideas, it has been magical for us, (actually more so for the love between us than the sex, too).

Oh, since I reveal the secret male drive for newness, which may freak out women who are insecure about their guy dumping them for some one else, you should also be aware that men have a strong drive to ROOT. To settle down and build a safe place for fun and family and creativity. How do you root and explore newness at the same time? Well, how do you not? Look at any blade of grass, tree, any shrub...whatever the shape, life both likes to root and spread seeking newness WITHOUT losing the connection to the root. Whether you are a shrub, tree or vine, there is some of both the rooting and seeking newness.

If you combing these two ideas, root and new, you get....Newt.

As in "eye of newt," which witches brew for lascivious and sensual play and fun. Because even centuries ago, there were people who realized these truths and wanted to give them a name.

What is a newt? We are newts. Men are newts.

~psychoblast~
 
It seems to me that he needs a high level of tension to get excited, which is a common by-product of having lots of extreme sex, or masturbating to extreme porn. In fact, it is going to be the next big sexual hang up, I think, because internet porn allows males to virtually experience any sexual fantasy they can think of to a degree not possible before (we are very visual, so seeing it while masturbating is a lot like doing it, at least at first). It is a sliding slope, as you seek something a little more different, then a little more, then a little more....

In the old days, before computers, men got this out of their system by cheating. But that is not even necessary. While I think spiritually that monogamy is a limiting factor, like wearing blinders, some people can have happy lives wearing blinders the whole time. Because while blinders limit your vision in one direction, they make you focus even more on other directions. You get creative with what you have to work with.

What it boils down to is this: Men crave NEWNESS. This is the instinct that has perhaps been most responsible for humanity's ascent in the animal kingdom (assuming you view our position as being superior to other animals, not sure about that myself). This causes us to find new continents and take crazy risks. And it causes death, but also some amazing treasures are found, skills are learned.

The craving for newness is not just in sex, but it does affect sexual relationships. If a female wants a truly healthy relationship with a male, she must simply try to insert something new into the relationship. (I said insert, lol.) It can be anything from saying, "Tonight, let's have sex but we can only touch each other with leather and genitals, so we can get some straps and gloves and see what that is like." or ask him call you by a different name.

I know, you can say in some way each sexual encounter is new because it is original, it has not happened before. But we need the newness FIRST because it is part of the TURN ON phase. So just complaining, "Well, I think every time my man and I make love, we do it a little different and it is new," is not enough.

You don't have to do this every time, it's not like all the weight falls on your shoulders. Once a woman shows she understands and appreciates the delight of newness, the man will naturally feel more comfortable letting out his own ideas for what he thinks would be good and new. He will begin to take charge. Which may in turn surprise and please you (the female).

The cure for internet-port-related-attention-deficit-disorder-making-him-impotent-or-otherwise-hurting-our-sex-live is to realize that a real human "doll" who can THINK of new things to do with a man will beat the hell out of any porn movie you can think of. But woman who kind of lays there and does not invent new stuff to do, who does not add a lot to the mix, who makes the guy feel insecure about suggesting new kinky stuff, is creating a dead end of repetition that will turn him off, wilt him, and cause him to look in another direction for sexual satisfaction and newness.

I myself have gone through this to some degree, have seen what combining drugs, internet porn, masturbation, and sex toys can lead to and it can be mind-blowingly fun, and then going back to some girl who just kind of lays there and wants to hump seems pretty uninspiring, and I have found my mind drifting unintentionally, lost interest in sex with a significant other, etc. But now that my wife and I are back to trying presenting one another with new ideas, it has been magical for us, (actually more so for the love between us than the sex, too).

Oh, since I reveal the secret male drive for newness, which may freak out women who are insecure about their guy dumping them for some one else, you should also be aware that men have a strong drive to ROOT. To settle down and build a safe place for fun and family and creativity. How do you root and explore newness at the same time? Well, how do you not? Look at any blade of grass, tree, any shrub...whatever the shape, life both likes to root and spread seeking newness WITHOUT losing the connection to the root. Whether you are a shrub, tree or vine, there is some of both the rooting and seeking newness.

If you combing these two ideas, root and new, you get....Newt.

As in "eye of newt," which witches brew for lascivious and sensual play and fun. Because even centuries ago, there were people who realized these truths and wanted to give them a name.

What is a newt? We are newts. Men are newts.

~psychoblast~

THIS is by far the most enteresting thing someone has ever replied to me on BL.
Thank you.
 
No.... no and no, i simply couldnt work with that for verry long... i just dont think its in human nauture, but hell maybe someone somewhere finds out how to make it work but i know that, that would unforntunantly not me be...
 
Iv been with my partner now for a year almost,weve never really been at like rabbits from day one (even though i wanted to but no guts)but we did have sex pretty often well at least once/twice a week and sex was so great that i was completely satisfied with that.The past 2/3 months sex is off the menu iv had a moan but he says its not me hes just got no sex drive lately he said if i notice its more so since hes ex stopped him seeing his kids,so got court stress going on.The thing is that hes also told me that hes more attracted to who i am inside than he is how i look then all of a sudden sex is non existent how can i not help thinking its purely because he dosnt fancy me?i dont actually mind so much if hes not in the mood just so long as i was sure it wernt my looks and i felt reassured that he was still happy to be with me,were so close in every other way and i think thats why im worrying so so much im scared ill lose him in that way so i wont even be getting kisses and hugs like i still do now am i just being silly and insecure?i just really do miss feeling skin close to him i love him dearly.
 
luckily for me gays are way too horny for anything of this sort to happen-

I'm just kidding-
seriously though, we are.

there was a time when my partner went through a depressive episode and he just lost all sexual drive for a few months, he felt bad but I loved him and we stayed together anyways, he came out of it and it was back to normal. But we didn't start the relationship sexless though, so it doesn't count.
 
Thanks for that ill just see what happens take each day as it comes i suppose,something must be there between us because were still togethter so ill just have to hang on in there i love him so dearly and i feel loved by him,hopfully it will sort itself out.
luckily for me gays are way too horny for anything of this sort to happen-

I'm just kidding-
seriously though, we are.

there was a time when my partner went through a depressive episode and he just lost all sexual drive for a few months, he felt bad but I loved him and we stayed together anyways, he came out of it and it was back to normal. But we didn't start the relationship sexless though, so it doesn't count.
 
Thanks for that ill just see what happens take each day as it comes i suppose,something must be there between us because were still togethter so ill just have to hang on in there i love him so dearly and i feel loved by him,hopfully it will sort itself out.

I do believe that physical contact of any sort, not sex per se, but being held, and kissed, and touched, is usually paramount for a strong bond between
lovers.
:)
ah, now I'm daydreaming
 
We are always very close in that way and i understand what you have said it honestly feels just as good being held or kissed by him i think im just being insecure thinking thast he dosnt even want that any more but things do seem ok in that department at thwe moment so i think i need to stop my insecurities otherwise i shall end up scaring him away no doubt about it and that would kill me in such a big way to not have him atall,i do think weve got something special between us but we have both had troubled lives before now and i believe that this has in some sort of a way had an impact on us showing each other how we feel,we dont need to tell each other thast we have got a deeply strong bond together i hope we always will.Thanks once again for reply and advice,appreciated pamela
I do believe that physical contact of any sort, not sex per se, but being held, and kissed, and touched, is usually paramount for a strong bond between
lovers.
:)
ah, now I'm daydreaming
 
Hes having a bad time trying to see hisd kids at the moment and he has been suffering with depression at tinmes due to this so maybe i need to stop my insecurities and be there more for him like you say about your other half he may come through this and things go back to how they were before i sure hope so anyway patience is a virtue its said.cheers
Thanks for that ill just see what happens take each day as it comes i suppose,something must be there between us because were still togethter so ill just have to hang on in there i love him so dearly and i feel loved by him,hopfully it will sort itself out.
 
We are always very close in that way and i understand what you have said it honestly feels just as good being held or kissed by him i think im just being insecure thinking thast he dosnt even want that any more but things do seem ok in that department at thwe moment so i think i need to stop my insecurities otherwise i shall end up scaring him away no doubt about it and that would kill me in such a big way to not have him atall,i do think weve got something special between us but we have both had troubled lives before now and i believe that this has in some sort of a way had an impact on us showing each other how we feel,we dont need to tell each other thast we have got a deeply strong bond together i hope we always will.Thanks once again for reply and advice,appreciated pamela

yeah, sure! :)
don't stress too much- I'm sure you have no reason to feel insecure
 
I don't like this thread.

I feel utterly doomed reading it, nearly everyone in it is saying (from experiences too) that it don't work..
 
I feel this is an issue that could be solved but would be hard with out taking it to a therapist. There are therapists who specialize in these type of problems. Just a thought. Would be more productive than asking on a forum if there is anything that can be done or if something like this can last. Clearly your not satisfied with the situation, so your mind isn't going to magically change because someone tells you for them it can last in this fashion. He needs some help to create a healthier pattern of sexual activity for his own sake and the relationships sake if you ask me.
 
are you hoping that there is a way that it could?

Kinda, i cant not ever have sex but i really dont enjoy it,
ive got something wrong with my prostate, so when i have sex near the end and for a few hours after it feels like there has been acid poured down there
 
hm, damn. This I'm not trying to ask a stupid question, but have so spoken to a doctor?
I'm wondering if it is clinical.
 
Kinda, i cant not ever have sex but i really dont enjoy it,
ive got something wrong with my prostate, so when i have sex near the end and for a few hours after it feels like there has been acid poured down there

Wow, I've never heard that. Has a doctor diagnosed it? What is that called?

I could probably be OK without having sex like a rabbit, but I need affection. Recent happenings at the Lysis household have me realizing that I don't think my relationship is going to work out, and not having sex is meh, but not having any affection or intimacy at all has me really feeling trapped and very unhappy. I don't think I could live happily without any kind of emotion or just basic affection from someone. Sex equates to a strong bond with someone, so it almost feels like I'm separated from him. We're basically great friends, but there is basically no emotion, support or affection, and for me, it's a terrible existence. Not sure what I'm going to do about it, but I digress.

I could probably love and be happy with a person with a low sex drive, but someone without any kind of emotion or affection towards the other person would (is atm) make me feel very unhappy. No sex at all, and I can guarantee I would cheat on the person, and I really don't ever want to do that.

I'm also thinking perhaps my partner has some kind of autism or asperger's or something. I don't understand how someone can be so non-affectionate with someone they supposedly love.
 
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