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LucidShroomDmtier

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ijust had a strong hit of salvia first time doing and got a terrifing feeling and instant revitalization of an older bad trip voices , evil spirits etc. the feeling that am gonna be tricked or die or that am dead already and terror until the effects subside alitle and i felt the relief of the bad gone . and now i read that salvia effects are almost predominetly unpleasant , any advice on how to have fun on it ?
 
heh, yeah..... that's salvia. The second time I tried it, it tried to turn me into a chair :sus: obviously I wasn't really down with that.. the first time, it tried to turn me into a dock and I sat wriggling on the ground trying to keep a wooden pole from tearing into me...... I was screaming "WHAT THE FUCK" the entire time :p
 
lol what have u been thinking nigga?! salvia aint no hedonistic drug,its more like deadly nightshade or datura... its hardcore masochism,only naive and curious people do it


i done salvia and datura only once,and dont plan to do it ever again.... i had 10+ minute full on egodeath,i never had egodeath ever before or after,that shit is ridiculous

that 10 minutes were eternity for me,i was stuck in infinite prison and it was absolute terror... my soul wandered into hidden spirit world inside concrete blocks of stairway

salvia,dont try to make it not unpleasant,u cant
 
it is really great to know what a chair and a dock feel like.
you never know when....
 
i dont know, its pretty fucking exciting drug to me. i used salvinorin a, too, a lot of it. sure it isnt very euphoric, but if u cant enjoy it for what it is, best dont take it at all.
 
just did again felt the same no tolerance but its like fast trips now itwas stronger i think scary feeling agin in my chest the wall behind me opened up to suck me in i had a friend nearby , i felt like he is fake or something conspiring with the evil against me played me flute as the trip wasfinishing when i quickly understood the lies and that it was salvia . Its like going into teror house on the receational park crazy shit but u need skill now when i know its scary its better thank god it dosent last long its like when someone scared you and you feel the fun it wasent real danger, then i was laughing because this paranoia was funny after all ah. hahah crazy shit
 
u weren't ready for it those bad feelings are meaningful but u won't understand until you trip a lot more

i recommend 100x salvia sublingual and an MXE flush and youll be fine
 
@LSDmt: Try taking numerous small tokes over a period of time, instead of single, massive breakthrough doses. Or try the quid method.

The best time I've had smoking the stuff was when taking small puffs with my brother. Made things crazy and fun. Felt like we were both on our own respective hills, looking at each other across a deep canyon. It seemed as if we were not truly separate, but like trees growing out of the same root mass. At one point the telephone rang, and we both "saw" our mom's head popping out of the phone before the receiver was picked up (the vision was right; it was our mom calling). Salvia's some crazy stuff for sure.
 
After trying some 15x extract someone brought around I ended up making my own 15x. The initial experience was pretty terrifying, and at the time I was very naive to the fact that no amount of experience with psychedelics could prepare someone for such an experience. It was like the entirety of existence was made from my body, which was no longer a body but instead a complex of the craziest visual phenomena I had ever experienced coupled with the feeling that I was infinately folding in on myself. It seemed to last an eternity, and as I came back I was nothing but a head sticking out of my bed, which was also quite disconcerting. Even so this facinated me to no end, hence making my own extract. After a dozen or so more experiments, I came to the conclusion that "enjoyable" has very little place in describing the salvia experience itself. I absolutely loved the afterglow though, which for me was about a week of feeling very "zen" and lots of creative inspiration.

So, in terms of making the salvia experience enjoyable per se...not likely, although I have heard of people having an easier time with sublingual administration. I have never been successful with that roa, but did not really try more than a few times before the facination for salvia pretty much passed. Overall I would say that it can be a useful experience sometimes, but not necessarily enjoyable or easy. Occasionally there are people who truly enjoy it but most will only ever go there once or twice (if ever).
 
i did a half gram bucket of vaporized 80x Salvia.
Not exactly the smartest thing anyone could do,
Apparently i became possessed. Normally my pupils which are modestly dilated due to their own accord, became smaller than the size of pin heads, and i didn't exhale the toke, it poured out of me.
When my friend told me to sit down i apparently told him to shut the fuck up in a horrific tone. I stood up and apparently started to walk around and scan things as if they were 2dimensional.
Then i found a pair of scissors and picked them up, but my friends came over, and tried to make me put them down but i apparently darted through the house, with absolutely no memory of this.
They caught me, and apparently i was mumbling things, about how i needed to get outside to cut reality back. It was very heavy.
They locked me into my bed room, and for like 45 minutes i was trapped in the worst feeling of despair and unreality. I remember when i started to come back, because Salvia has a very thick resin,
it was coating the inside of my mouth and so, when i put my hands inside of my mouth to clean the resin from my maw, it felt like i was turning myself inside out back into reality.
As if the toke i consumed was so thick and resinous that it buccally was absorbing in a continuous rate keeping me locked in this disillusioned trance.

I'll never smoke half a gram of salvia in one toke again, thats for sure.
Nor Salvia ever again....
 
I think people not being able to dose precisely due to tolerance / reverse tolerance, not weighing and poor or inconsistent smoking techniques all contribute to salvia's unbridled potency being unleashed so very often. At moderate doses I found it to be meditatively visionary. Still not exactly an enjoyable drug but definitely not the beast it is when zapped into you in hyper mode...
 
as i can understand until now its useful as bad trip u have this afterglow u didnt die after all and u are taught some huge lessons in salviarealm


Conclusion : Salvia is a strong cruel teacher (Sage) must be treted with respect used for shamanic purposes and not for fun like lsd or shrooms , or even dmt.

this trip report explained alot to me huge but worth every word http://www.erowid.org/experiences/exp.php?ID=57297
 
It is definitely not something to be taken lightly. One person who tried it around the same time as me came back from the experience and said in all seriousness "If I didn't believe I had a soul before, now I know for a fact I do."

It's sad how often this has been given to unsuspecting people at parties for a laugh at their expense...utter perversion of such a powerful and potentially useful experience. Indeed, salvia deserves the utmost respect. There are not many things in this world known to produce such a dramatic alteration of consciousness, and certainly is no toy. It's downright shameful how irresponsible some people can be with such a sacrament.
 
I never used salvia but I was around a friend when he smoked some 5X leaves. My friend did not break through or have an actual trip but he said smoking salvia was freaky to him because he thought he was going to break through and have a full blown trip but did not. He's not new to psychedelics and has taken moderate/high doses of LSD, very high, moderate, and low doses of mushrooms, smoked a fair amount of pot, and taken MDMA/MDA before. The salvia experience only lasted for about 15-20 minutes for him.
 
Many people I have smoked salvia with have temporarily appeared unresponsive, or have spontaneously committed an absurd act. Once a roommate of mine immediately ran down to the basement of our house and hid behind the washer/dryer.

I think the mutual experiences discussed in this thread are interesting. The first time I did salvia it was a complete transportation to a parallel perception. The subsequent times, I experienced that "wooden" feeling of becoming an inanimate object, and a fleeting, but thorough, loss of ego. I remember feeling like I had become a chair and that myself and my surroundings were all made of the same rubbery substance with a texture of rhythmic folds and wrinkles.

I also remember feeling an intense rhythm of convulsions, like a pulse that cut into me. This was an unmistakable physical sensation, like I was being attacked.

It is ridiculous that salvia is sold as a sleazy "legal high" in head shops, when it has the potential to bring about such an inverse of reality.
 
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