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Just watched the program and to me it came across as ending up pro drugs. Our team had the better points ;)

As for anna wood's father.... Some of his comments on the program and after reading JB's post about talking to him after the show it made me wonder if anna turned to drugs because she couldn't stand dealing with her fathers narrow mindedness???
 
Good show.
Big ups johnboy and all the other people representing the HR cause.
As usual with this program, I could have watched the debate for another couple of hours.

I nearly punched the screen when that monkey in the suit came on. Why the fuck was he on there? He had never taken drugs, never researched drugs, didnt mention he knew anyone who took drugs. All he did was mouth of with hearsay and propaganda that he was obviously "weak minded" enough to fall for! grrrrr! Way too much air time for him

It was clear that the parents of opiate victims knew nothing of current drug trends. Especially that stupid fuck sitting next to Mr Wood. And my god is Wood a cockhead! I thought that before I read about his comments to Johnboy.

The insight chat room must be on melt down. Either that or just my shite dialup. Too bad they don't have a message board.
 
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Very impressed guys :)

You know... I wish someone had've said to Mr Wood... your daughter died from water hyponatraemia and if there had been enough education out there, perhaps her situation wouldn't have arisen.
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well actually it was mentioned that her death could have been prevented but that ended up on the cutting room floor


:)once again guys good job:)

damn i cant believed they used that part with me about college.....ah well
time to get a real job, oh and JB my last job was driving a SNAP-ON truck around .......................lol
 
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As for anna wood's father.... Some of his comments on the program and after reading JB's post about talking to him after the show it made me wonder if anna turned to drugs because she couldn't stand dealing with her fathers narrow mindedness???
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My conclusion is that he is a product of situation. His daughter died because of her ecstasy use and his opinions are based on his experience, and that would be a very dark and harrowing one.
 
I watched and found it all very interesting. Quite a spectrum of characters gathered there made for some interesting if not closed minded comments from some.

Well handled by JB, I imagine its hard to be respectful of the Woods situation while at the same time trying to get across a point he clearly didn't want to hear.
 
great program... could have done without the token people with negative emotional envolvment with drugs (eg. mr wood). it really didn't help, as they were unable to listen to the facts and in my opinion wasted precious time.

also a pity that SBS doesn't get a very large audience.
 
great program... could have done without the token people with negative emotional envolvment with drugs (eg. mr wood). it really didn't help, as they were unable to listen to the facts and in my opinion wasted precious time.
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I've been over the show a second time, and some parts 3 & 4 times. Although I agree to a point that some people on the negative got a little too much air time, I also think it was essential, and more importantly beneficial, to have them there.

Most negative or ignorant views were highlighted by the users' responses, who came across generally as educated and definitely more informed people. To the public, I'm sure it would have opened some eyes, and I'm sure there were some parents who would have learned something.

What's best, is that among all this furore regarding the antidrug campaigns, even from the conservative side of the fence there were positive, very positive things said about harm minimisation. So regardless of whether or not you thought time wise, users got a fair voice, the points made were reflective of a world not seen in the current "reaper" adds.

It may not shake the government into changing it's current policy, but I believe it will get people - parents and kids - talking, in a way the scare tactics of the ads could never do.

BTW, did anyone notice that Professor David Fergusson also put his hand up when the question was asked 'who had taken illegal drugs' ?
 
Represent! Well Done. Nick and Mick, looking good guys..

The only real downside I saw on the show, is that it didnt exactly stick to the topic of recreational drug use in soicity and where is it going and what to do about it eg. wen one of the older blokes was going on about herion addiction.. and so forth... and when a conversation started to really roll along, then again, one of the older blokes came in with something irrelivant.

JB, must say your a fine man, to basically confront Mr Wood about his daughter's situation, without insulting (no I dont mean swearing) him or his family in anyway. I wish he could get it into his head, that it wasnt "xtc" that killed his daughter.

Yes, that suit dude with the "generation x" crowd was a wank, what point was he possibly supposed to convey? He shouldn't have been sitting there as I was to the idea that the room was divided into sides.

Finally, I think the voice of those some of the NZ prof.'s need to be heard more often
 
John, Nick and Mick, great to see you guys there (and who is thinkingwelfare? Please forgive my ignorance). I truly wish I was in a position to go with you guys - it's frustrating that my career path means the risks are too high at present :X

I was very interested to hear from Dr. Cameron Duff, the psychologist and the Dr. from New Zealand (I'm hopeless with names). Very impressed with the guy who lost his son to heroin and still managed to have a realistic grip on the debate (such a contrast to poor Mr. Woods who seems to have lost the plot somewhat). Good to hear both the professionals and users acknowledging real dangers too.

One thing that has always annoyed me about Insight is the opinion emphasis. Incorporating factual information would be much more useful for helping viewers to make up their minds. Without it, there's going to be opinions formed on 30-second impressions, including that the non-drug taking kiddie was more smartly dressed, therefore looking more successful and desirable to mothers across the country than the much smarter "users". (and yes, I wanted to punch him too).

All in all though, I thought it managed to stay reasonably balanced and air some responsible views. I'm proud of my peers who had the courage and determination to get their voices heard. At the very least, it's a step in the right direction :)
 
I wish I was near a computer to instantly congratulate JohnnyBoy on his wonderful appearance upon the show....however, I'm back in the office where I can now extend my hand and say "well done...a good job JohnnyBoy"

Alas I didn't get to view the entire show, however I pity the likes of Mr Wood for firstly, loosing his daughter and secondly, the blatant resulting "eyes too close together" ignorance. I had hoped that this kind of "fear based" mentality had been shed-off the human conciousness as we have evolved in these last two decades, but I see there is still "smatterings" of it within certain types of people.

In any event, Johnny did the whole "Harm reduction" and "just say Know" approach a wonderful shot in the arm.

Good on you Johnny
 
who is thinking welfare?? now really. hehe. That's me, was seated next to JB. So in essence i looked intelligent by association :) hehe.
Interesting night, meet some cool people, will comment more when i'm not meant to be 'working'.
Cheers.
 
Really enjoyed the show, good work guys! And well done to SBS for havin the balls to tackle issues like this in a sensible manner.
 
Congrats to the Bluelighters, JB & Cameron for getting out there. To hear the voices and stories of functional drug users helps to bring this "drug" debate out of polarisation. I'm glad there was a good cross-section of views represented - otherwise you run the risk of alienated people but this way, even the right wing conservative folk watching would have stayed around.

The only thing I felt the show lacked was a good sense of the benefits of drug use in this context. I reckon that is the key to understanding why people use drugs - the obvious answer to the question the olds tend to ask (eg. "If you are worried about long term effects or the contents of pills, why do you still use them?") is that it's worth it because of how it makes you feel or the fun you have at the time.

"thinkingwelfare" - Ups to you for your sarcasm re being an idiot. That guy in the suit deserved to have his lips sewn together for some of the bullshit that came out of his mouth!

We can only hope that more of these opportunities come along to show the public that stereotypes of "drug users being idiots" are just plain wrong.
 
I was home and missed it as i thought it was on next week.

Grr.. Hanging out to watch the streamed version so that i can see what FUBU jacket NTC decided to wear.

Sounds like you did well guys and Kudos for being brave enough to get on the telly in the first place. :)
 
Don't hate the media, become the media!
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Absolutely! I love that quote (and Jello). Especially since the Internet is more and more becoming the place that people turn for information, having established sites like Bluelight as part of the HR arsenal is going to continue to benefit heaps of people :)
 
Are you asking me directly? Because that's not who I'm working with. I'm working with the other 98%.
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It is now available for download as a DivX file from here. It is 141MB and if you can provide a mirror for it please post one in the thread. You will need the DivX codec to view it and that can be found via this website.
 
^ Thanks heaps, I missed this and really wanted to watch it. You're a champ :)

Thanks everyone from bluelight who represented us and harm minimisation.
 
Nice one guys. I was watching it with my parents and i reckon they got to better understand what really goes on, and what it's really like.

I agree with what everyone's saying about the guy in the suit: Why was he there and how is his self-righteous uneducated bullshit relevent? I guess there are a certain demographic out there that do think like that too i spose.

I must say, Tony wood's opinion represents that of my parents when it comes to drugs, but i reckon, give him a break. He did lose his daughter.

All in all, a really good msg was purveyed and kudos to JB and all the others for representing us!
 
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