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saw people astrally projected wo trying. confused, pls comment

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You can go to 4th paragraph, crux, to know what happened...

Experience 1, last night
Background
So this whole week at night, when I turned off my room light and laid in bed, within the first minute, I sensed a presence like an unusually cold breeze in the room or floating mist/fog, strange light or shadow movement. So this whole week, when I saw and felt those things, I went to sleep in my mom's room with her or went outside, but last night, I stayed.

Intro
I saw a man's face upside down and was being too close, in my face in a nice and creepy way with me, and was a bit freaked out because I saw like rave orgy with lots of people. I felt bothered and I told them I wasn't into that, and have fun and I went to my mom's room.

Transition
In my mom's room, my head barely hit the pillow and he or they were there so I got up and I went downstairs in the lit kitchen for a pause and went back to bed in my room to read, but i felt disturbed by this/these presences, so I had to deal.

Crux of Story
I saw the guy's face (looked younger than before) and asked questions, I could see facial expressions and read lips but it was difficult seeing detail bc my room wasn't totally darkened and my vision sucks, and I think the sharpness of the spirit wasn't great. I started asking questions because am i supposed to learn from this, what am i seeing, is this my past behaviors, and am i suppose to reflect, and do i know u, and when he said yes, I had to darken the room and eventually learned that he was an x bf telling me he still loved me (but honestly, I wasn't so distraught about the whole thing and hadn't been thinking about it much since we broke up 5 months ago). I was more into asking questions like am I crazy, how are u doing this? etc... I could read his lips and kind of hear him say that I have done it (but I get scared and come back). Floating xbf implied that he astral projected just as I have unintentionally experienced on past occasions. he told me he loved me and i said that i dont know what that means from him.

I ended up hanging out with xbf, his housemate, and a few others, even though there were lots of other people there. I put on music but seeing their rave sticks and dancing spirits, I guess they had music on too. At times, I could feel a little weight, and electricity or tiny vibrations to from touch. Xbf wanted to kiss and stuff, but without being able to feel, i couldnt do it because I like to hold and feel and touch things, like buttons on a phone; plus im still hurt by him and I dont fuck around w ppl i dont love and if he doesnt love me. Eventually, I could feel his leg, a little bit of weight, and faintly feel hand movements.

I was an emotional rollercoaster-- crying, then amused, feeling cared for. The one thing I was able to really touch was the softball size bubble ball handed to me.

So the scene went from what I first thought was really bacchanalian hell (I literally felt molested by these spirits) to more relaxing scene with 2 familiar people and 2 strangers being nice and chill in the middle of a sex rave.

End of story
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Experience 2
There was another time a few months ago I had all these cute, mythical creatures with a human like (but slightly smaller stature) protector. The creatures seemed like catlike, and friendly flowers and insects and little people and I could see them more clearly and could sense there weight more, and feel them when they touched me. A little girl gave me a dandelion seed like flower (made of more solid lines) to play with.

I had my friend next to me in my bed and he had never believed in spirits but now he could sense them and see the mist and felt a hand. The night before this one, I sensed spirit presences with mist/fog and asked questions and was able to have a physical body sensation linked to a yes or no.

So these things happen to me when I'm awake, I am pretty sure I am not asleep, without my asking. I have had supernatural occurrences throughout my life, not everyday, but after an OD, a naturally occurring DMT awakening, and kundalini awakening/prana surge in 2008, I had periods of more intense occurrences followed by more months of non-activity.

I was raised Christian, believe in God, and spirits, chakrahs, but I actually practice Christianity and not the meditative, new-age, yoga, whatever this is way.
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For u readers...
Anyway, I am wondering if you have any comment to make on these supernatural things I experience because I don't have any guidance and do get freaked out sometimes. I don't try to experience these supernatural things. I don't know why these things are happening or how I am supposed to take in these experiences. Also, if I saw my xbf and housemate is it totally from me or did they do something, I txted one of them, but havent heard. Any thoughts or comments?
 
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Don't let them freak you out, just go along with them, find comfort with what's going on. Then it'll be quite an amazing experience. This happens to some people often but others not too much.
 
I do eventually go along and enjoy it, but like i did feel sexually molested at the beginning so I wanted that to stop but how do u stop a floating astral projection of a person?

Also, I got teleported once to a strange women's house in her fancy living room all white and I felt invasive and scared like what if I didnt know how to leave
 
Do you feel paralyzed sometimes and feel like something is putting pressure on your body? Kind of like you feel energy engulfing your body then it gets more and more intense?
 
yea, that happened alot before the prana surge/kundalini awakening. paralysis, pressure, tone, (my first few experiences were like that), not being able to break, aching pain if i tried to move, and some noises/voices also affirmed by a bf at that time. I was terrified out and would move because I wanted to get away from that experience, which i thought was connected to the place.

Then, immediately after prana surge/kundalini thing, I saw spirits, auras, seemed like some force (my ego shrunk) was talking and moving for me, thats when i astrally projected, and was visited by someone who projected to my room, moving strange individual body parts, slots of tingles and streaming tingles in response to certain contexts, etc... Then those thiings stopped, I felt lonely and strange. I didn't eat or sleep much and didnt feel tired- i was soo bored. I wanted these weird things to stop and they did.

Then I experienced a lot of levitation, and spinning, and hanging upside before going to bed. I was thrusted into this so i couldnt be scared. I remember feeling a lot of vertigo during this period. And seeing definite shadows move, friendly like nice things, and lights like streak or blip. Always before i go to sleep, sometime i sense it and go into it just as my head hits the pillow.

Did i mess up my brain?
Do other ppl experience see spirits and astral project not by their own will?
 
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You are a very spiritual person, clearly. What practical things and practices have you done to instigate this kundalini surges? How did you go about doing this?

Have you fallen asleep when these things occur? Or is it literally jst when you lie down in bed after putting the lights off. Are your eyes open or closed?

I would love to further hone my spiritual sense but would first prefer to conclude the best, most simple, least invasive and easy-going methods at first. I've always felt certain "supernatural" senses, such as distinct psychic ability as a child and other certain events that it's too late in teh night to go into right now!

But I wouldn't be able to summarize my opinion until you clarify a little more...Do you think about these things (like your exbf) alot and worry over them?
 
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What led up to DMT awakening...
I smoked meth, shot coke/crack, xanax, alcohol, shot heroin/oxycontin, and smoked crack for many years (I got into the game a bit and kept my integrity). I had had 3-4 months of permanent psychosis from all the crack I was smoking, even when I wasnt smoking. After a 4 day non-stop bender of mostly heroin and a little crack, I had a grand mal seizure; I was intubated, heart was shocked back up, was catatonic for like a month, went to rehab, and the dmt awaking happened (40ish days after seizure), and i was sober. The wind was whistling like music, so I went outside and laid in a lawn of dandalions; the world kept tilting and adjusting; colors were extra vibrant and glowing.

A little more detail about Kundalini/Prana surge (bc I lost it):
During yoga I was moving automatically and doing everything right; if I thought & tried, I fucked up the pose. Anyway, at the end, in the corpse pose, my spine undulated, like a controlled seizure, and everything cracked. i read that kundalini surges happen to drug addicts accidentally. I dragged my friend to sleep outside with me at rehab on this old flatbed truck in the farm; she woke me up bc it was raining, I swear,I was 100% dry and so was my blankets; everything else around me was wet. I never could explain that one.

i literally lie down. i am never asleep when these supernatural things happen. Except daytime, I have had synthesia (when u see beautiful picture from music); and I have heard music everywhere and like see that music is like woven tapestry (i usually like electronic, hip hop, mush-up, and nice calm guitar white ppl music).

No, I don't worry about my xbf alot; nor did I miss him much or cry when it ended. i rid myself of thoughts (one of the reasons why I started opiates was to stop unwanted thoughts and chattering mind), so no i dont think about him or anymore much. like per day i have like 20-30 thoughts, like inner monologue, usually im thinking nothing at least on a conscious level. And I used to have like 3 streams of racing thoughts until my mid-late 20's
 
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highly enlightening to read of what you perceived or rather absorbed. if it's unpleasant, i am sorry. i've been hearing of dmt more and more and want to take it. your experiences are very similar to what i've been going through not really questioning it from childhood ever since i've fell out of the crib head first from rocking it. i am 36, numerously tripped without tripping. if i can help because you are not needing help, i am entertained mildly, molested doesn't sound good, actually very very sick. beighing Christian myself, during your worst worst, when you feel powerless moment, just keep reapting, by the power of Christ's blood, think this if it's not your cognitive urge, it helped me out of some cocaine induced trips i didn't like, thanks for sharing, it clearly looks like one interesting spin on everything
 
well it happened again last night. i was frustrated bc it was difficult to see my x's face. Plus there were other ppl, not as many and not a crazy party scene, (I swear 2 nights ago i thought it was some kind of hell at first). Anyway he said had been trying to see me all week. And he kept trying to be sexual w me and I got pissed. we broke up bc i thought he treated me not as i wanted to be treated, so how can he just invade my privacy, bring guests, and molest me? I got angry and told them to leave but they didnt, I told him to call or txt me bc i want to know its him and im not crazy or its not someone else being him. And i need a conversation before he can just pop in whenever and do whatever. I said he should have manners, ask me first, talk to be about the past, etc...

whatever...im going to rehab (supposed to be today but they just postponed me). The presence of roommate should help deter. he said he can always visit me day or night, but i only see him at night.

oh and he blew bubbles and gave them to me and I could really play with and hold the bubble ball.
 
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so now im worried bc i saw him in the daytime and he lied to me about who he was. I have never had stuff like persist more than 2 days. he actually follows me to places. im fucking crazy and should either keep using massive amounts of downers or drink a solution of toxic weed like hemlock, right?

there is a part of me that doesnt feel like they/he are/is evil and trying to hurt me, but its just disturbing and whenever he/they come around, its like im in the middle of an orgy 95%. i swear i never to rarely think about sex if im not in a serious relationship. (i do think about drugs fairly often.) seriously, i cant get peace with these spirits communicating with me and trying to have sex with me. i feel like if I were crazy this shit should have happened after a bender, but i have actually stopped using h and went on subs this week and my use since Jan has been light.

what medication can i take?

i feel like downers have suppressed supernatural stuff for me but I know h has kinda ruined my life. Now i remember how I got all those "kundalini effects" to disappear. I was feeling lonely and different. and started shooting opiates again and the chakrah tingling went away and the little sleep and little need to eat....
 
Are you still about or are you in rehab? I would love to continue talking to you about this.

All the best.
Cameron
 
have you ever been tested for schizophrenia?

either way you should get it done if this keeps on happening, especially if it gets more frequent.
 
Please forgive what might sound like an up-front question, but do you consider yourself supernatural, freaky, sort of disconnected from everyday life?

Oneness (perceiver = perceived) is often a useful psychological indicator and can tell a person a lot about themselves. What people perceive has everything to do with who they are psychologically -- because we are really all one.

The many are always in the one -- never the one out among many. The latter is the illusion.
 
This week, I was able to touch a "spirit" person's hands and it felt like electricity. Also I saw this Asian guy walk through my wall and say "am I insane?". 2 nites later,, I experienced the beginnings of sleep paralysis while awake, like my legs levitated and I was able to interact with them; it happened like 3 times that night. I swear Im 100% awake. I asked if he was alive, he said yes, and he was from Kentucky. Weird right?

I really dont know what to do, but face it and find out more...

ninsow- Im not using any techniques, but I did just order a book to see what's going on. Then, i'd like to find a support group, person knowledgable about this.

ech0s85 - I havent been tested for schizo. these things dont happen at inappropriate times, but i agree if it gets out of hand, I will.


Dedbeet -- Oh i guess i consider myself "supernatural" or new-agey, mostly because of these weird experiences not due to purposeful practice. i was exposed to new age stuff in the past. Supernatural things have been happening to me since i was a teen and usually when Im drug free or not on massive amounts of downers.

I practice Christianity, but am open to any kind of spirituality; it's just that is the one I have support for and know. I would like to find a group that would think im batshit crazy if i told them this stuff.

Im happy because it doesnt seem like the spirit-ppl are molesting me anymore. Some nights i wanna sleep and they leave. And there are no sexual acts forced on me... yay!
 
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Thats wild that you can astral project at will. I cant always do it at will. I have tons of stories of when I have though.

I have been doing this since a young kid. I think the first time was like 3 or 4 years old.. My parents went to Manhattan and I was home in my crib while my grandmother was watching me. But when I fell asleep, I felt like I was with my parents the whole time. On the train, going to shops..It was like I was actually with them and I remember going into a store with them and they bought me this little piano and we went to other shops and they came home and hid the piano under their bed. Then I remember waking up when I heard them talking to my grandmother and I climbed out of my crib and started saying mommy daddy you bought me a piano! And they looked at eachother like I was crazy and they said no we didnt, you must have just had a dream and I said no you did you did and I went under their bed and pulled it out and they got all wigged out and asked me how I knew it was under there and I said because I was with them and they were like oh you were just dreaming..

I dont have control over it that much, once in a while I can go into it..One time I was dating this girl and I had a really bad feeling she was with this guy so before I went to sleep I told myself that I would find her and see what she was up to and I fell asleep and then I remember talking with my boss about something in my dream and then I told him I have to go and hes like no dont leave and Im like I have to and I found her and the guy waiting online at the movies and I was so pissed off and I stayed next to them the whole time they were waiting online listening to what they were talking about and then as they started to walk into the movie theater together and I was going to go in but I realised it wasnt worth my time and I woke up and called her and was like where are you? and shes like oh just with a friend we are about to see a movie...
 
so these "people" -hehe- look like normal people?

i mean as far as their "coloring"? would there be any distinction between a living organic human,
and one of these fellows??


if they are bothering you,,, tell them that they are being intrusive, and are not welcome into your home, sight, thoughts, emotions, and what you hear...your senses are what they left behind, and miss, they are yours so let it be known. i dont feel they could actual do physical harm to you, and any negative thoughts or visions, they are to be translated through Thee Light Love and Life of all, first of all.

if there was any mockery, hes just being a bully, you know just ignore until he gets bored with you and goes looking for further reception if nothing else works. i would not let this get to comfortable or feel a sense of power or control, this is YOUR world here.
 
strongheart - get ur 50 posts so we can pm or chat. im in nyc area too. or my chat info is on my profile here. anyway, i read another of ur posts and its nice to find someone who experienced this. i can't do it at will. I feel like the spirits or something launches me into it -- feels like sleep paralysis with levitation. it takes practice to stay in the plane bc i left 3 mes in one nite and they helped me reenter so i could talk to them.

They look like real live people, however, sometimes there choose to be more opaque, or allow me to feel their weight, or skin, or interact like hear them.

when I felt things were inappropriate in the beginning i was furious and yelled at them. but lately, it seems like a pretty mellow scene and i feel much more at peace with the weird scene in my bedroom most nights.

Am I supposed to get a lesson from this? why me? and like i said more supernatural stuff happens when im sober. I dont think these people are dead...they seem like live people. why cant they just tell me the message, or do i need to hang out and train w them? i know i sound crazy.
 
Hey I sent you a PM, It is wild cause Ive never seen spirits like that without being in a trance or aslpp on the Astral Plane. It is interesteing that they are coming to you, maybe it is where you live or maybe something about you Im not sure. Let me know if you got the PM. I have read there are astral guides who will help you but there are also bad ones who you dont want to be with. It is all about your will though. If you choose to stay away from them or leave you can within a split second and change of thought form.
 
Strongheart- Can u tell me about the bad ones? are they like demons trying to lead people to hell? At first I thought that I was seeing the accursed and the path to hell- because it was an orgy rave (and my Catholic background which conflicts heavily with my hippie beliefs) and it interrupted my prayer and bible reading.

I dont think I have control of my will in this context to leave. When i was in the plane, I did leave 2 or 3 times. However, when Im in my normal conscious state and they astral plane and visitors are brought to me, I cannot will them away like I had tried to in the beginning.

What is aslpp?


Panic in Paridice - I always feel like there is a main male spirit that can morph into whoever and whatever, while the others stay human. I mostly see them in black, white, and gray bc its always in the dark (except the one day when I was followed in the car to the pool club and into the sauna-- then his face was aglow). Oh, and when saw that Asian man walk thru my wall and say "am i insane" - he had coloring and was totally opaque and looking real real. Some are shadows. They can choose when I can feel their touch, and when I can hear them, and when I can feel their weight or see evidence of their weight.

i do feel like this is a type of astral guide. I now think that I experienced sleep paralysis and levitation in sleep, lucid dreaming, and instantaneous astral projections, so that I will be able to do this on my own sometime. Because the spirits led me into their space by putting me in the sleep paralysis mode (but gentle), then levitating my legs, and then I was able to straight up talk to them and feel them like a real human interaction; it was pretty amazing. and yesterday, a spirit gave me a gift, a dandelion type fluffy and furry flower like thing that I could play with and then it would disappear.

And this one main spirit seems to like to observe me. I ask questions and try to touch his hands but if he is busy having sex, dancing or floating around then I dont interrupt and I just totally respect their privacy. I am huge on respecting privacy intentionally. like if someone is on the phone I automatically block out enough (attention or hearing) so that I have no thought of the conversation. However, I have a propensity to memorize numbers. So I need to consciously block out people's personal numbers (credit cards, social security, student IDs, bank acct, birthdays); in fact, I have never misused any memorized number, and my friends call me up to recall their important numbers to help them fill out forms on the go).

Anyway, Im now not concerned with being confused, but just happy that this happens to me. I would like to join them because it looks like fun, flying around.
 
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