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[Salvia Subthread] Salvia not Working

solistus said:
Salvia is weird, and I never had much luck with it - only got visuals once. It's also fairly disturbing and not at all similar to acid or mushrooms - it's a psychedelic, but a very peculiar one. It operates on completely different receptors than the "classic" psychedelics (they all operate on the 5HT2a serotonin receptor system; salvinorin-a, the active chemical in salvia, actually operates on mu-opioid receptors, strangely enough).
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Salvinorin A works as a kappa opioid agonist. Not on the mu-opioid receptors.
 
Some people just don't respond to salvia, for some reason. It's weird like that.
 
I've always gotten a fair bit of visuals from salvia. You do need to hold the smoke in for a while longer than anything else you would smoke, by the way. The best way to smoke it is through a bong, or a gravity bong. Pipes are a horrible way to smoke salvia, and joints/blunts won't get you feeling anything from salvia. You need to produce the smoke quickly and effectively, so you can inhale it all at once, and keep it inhaled for some time (10-20 seconds).
 
Endymion00 said:
Yeah. We didn't have a bong handy. His broke, so we were stuck with pipes.
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Here's what you could've done differently.

Take a socket wrench bit and a 2 litre. Cut a small hole in the top, and wedge in the socket wrench bit. Make sure it's in there securely.

Cut off the bottom of the 2 litre. leave the whole label though.

Get a pitcher large enough to fit the 2 litre in, and put some ice but mostly water inside it.

OPTIONAL - put in a ping pong ball, trust me, if you have one just put it in.

Then, put in the 2 litre without the cap on it.

Fill the cap up with weed then salvia (or use a screen if you don't want to smoke weed with it) and then screw the cap on the 2 litre. As you pull the 2 litre up slowly, light the top of the salvia. The flame will be pulled down, the smoke will collect inside the 2 litre. Then you unscrew it when it's fully pulled through, and you slowly inhale the contents while lowering the 2 litre back into the water.

If you can inhale and hold in the smoke long enough, salvia should work fine for you.

You may ask, why put in the ping pong ball? Answer: to prevent water from going into your mouth, which might make this experience less than pleasurable the first time you hit a gravity bong.
 
A New World Made Unaccessable

I was offered 80x salvia, for free, not very easy to pass up. At the time i was tweaking very hard and a friend had just told me it gave him a panic attack which i suffer severely from, so i was nervous but at the same time had a "dont give a damn" attitude, and hit a fresh bowl 3 times, ghosting each hit. They showed the usual salvia trip symptoms but i felt nothing except a pulling sensation to sit on the bed and a slightly slower reaction time. Being only my second experience with salvia and no memory of the first, is sn immunity possible or did the speed over power it?8)
 
Regular bic, and I really only ghosted 2 of the hits, kottonmouth from the speed made me gag. But even 2 large ghosted hits should have caused a trip
 
I've smoked strong salvia extract perfectly correctly and had little more than weird body sensations or at most a somewhat confusing altered headspace for a few minutes with no visuals or other coherent content whatsoever to the trip. Most of my salvia attempts ended up like that, in fact; I only got visuals from salvia twice out of more than a dozen tries, and one of those was during an acid peak so it may just have been the acid playing with my expectation of altered visuals, but it did seem to alter and intensify my visuals for a bit. Acid visuals come and go and vary in intensity a lot, anyway. The other time, on salvia alone, I saw the room in front of me break apart into small geometric shapes then re-assemble itself. That's the sum total of my visual experiences with salvia out of many tries with many different batches of salvia extract trying every "best salvia smoking technique" out there.

Bottom line, it's definitely not unheard of simply not to be very responsive to salvia. Not every chemical is as good for every person. Salvia and I just don't seem to click for whatever reason. Maybe you're the same way.
 
Captain.Heroin said:
Here's what you could've done differently.

Take a socket wrench bit and a 2 litre. Cut a small hole in the top, and wedge in the socket wrench bit. Make sure it's in there securely.

Cut off the bottom of the 2 litre. leave the whole label though.

Get a pitcher large enough to fit the 2 litre in, and put some ice but mostly water inside it.

OPTIONAL - put in a ping pong ball, trust me, if you have one just put it in.

Then, put in the 2 litre without the cap on it.

Fill the cap up with weed then salvia (or use a screen if you don't want to smoke weed with it) and then screw the cap on the 2 litre. As you pull the 2 litre up slowly, light the top of the salvia. The flame will be pulled down, the smoke will collect inside the 2 litre. Then you unscrew it when it's fully pulled through, and you slowly inhale the contents while lowering the 2 litre back into the water.

If you can inhale and hold in the smoke long enough, salvia should work fine for you.

You may ask, why put in the ping pong ball? Answer: to prevent water from going into your mouth, which might make this experience less than pleasurable the first time you hit a gravity bong.
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Would a chronic tank with a joint/blunt in it work well, do you think?
 
What solistus said. Responses to the same amount of salvia smoked the same way vary more widely between people than any other "drug of abuse" I know of. I watched about 10 people use salvia "live" and 2 of them felt nothing more than tingling sensations and a slight feeling of undulating movement. One potential explanation is that distributions of kappa opioid receptors in the parts of the brain the count for fully experiencing salvia vary radically. It's strange that something like kappa opioid receptor numbers or distribution, which salvia's intensity seems to imply is involved in conscious experience at a very deep level, should differ so much between people who apparently experience the world very similarly, though. But yeah, unfortunately the tone of your thread title is probably justified and nature has denied you the experience of something profound and without parallel. I'd be frustrated, but then again there are still plenty of other worlds to explore.
 
Basically what C.H. said but to simplify.

1. Pack enough salvia

2. Used a bong/decent size waterpipe

3. Light the pack excessively

4. Inhale AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE

5. Hold in for AS LONG AS POSSIBLE

6. Repeat if necessary (or possible lol)
 
Very little dose of 20x salvia with normal lighter in my small pipe ( no water )... one little hit launched my mind into zone where I was nervous becose my pc speaker was angry at me :D
 
Salvia 20x not working

I've been smoking and smoking and hold it in every time but no matter how much I try I just can't get the affects. This is my third attempt and still nothing. I've been smoking it from a pipe but I've been told to smoke it through a bong or water pipe. I can't get my hands on one right now but will eventually. I was a regular ecstasy user so would that have anything to do with it. I think I would need a way higher dose.
 
What lighter are you using and how much flame are you putting on it? If you can use a butane lighter and torch the shit out of it, but a bic will work also. Just make sure you keep the fire on there at all times, it wont damage it at all.
 
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