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Salvia and MDMA

Wow fishface -- that's a pretty glowing report if I've ever read one! I note, however, that you were already familiar with salvia on sober occasions, as was pretty much everyone else who's done this combo. I think I'm going to do likewise -- try it sober to make sure it's an experience I'd care to repeat.

Somehow I'd like to think I'm 'prepared' for salvia, although most people have told me that's not quite possible for anyone. I'm in my late 20s, independent and productive, and don't really have any 'demons'. I'm moderately experienced with psychedelics -- 6 shroom trips, 2 low-dose acid trips, 3 glowing DOI trips, and some K and DXM experiences. The thing that always scared me about shrooms was how they'd fuck with my language -- I'd always have trouble forming words and sentences while peaking. I never got that effect on any other drug except K. I'd like to think I'm fairly mature -- I don't take drugs to get fucked up or to feel badass. I'm more of a spiritual seeker.

Feel free to PM me if you've got any important pieces of advice for me regarding trying salvia.
 
Well, Doorsareopen, you're as well qualified to smoke salvia as anyone in the world, probably.
 
the only combo i tried was alcohol (pretty drunk) ... was hoping for some liquid courage ... but the salvia still scared the shit out of me. what's the consensus on best combo to dispell fear?
 
/\ on MDMA there wasn't that sense of impending doom that I get when I smoke it on its own, which I have done but very rarely and never a full dose. I guess MDMA takes the edge off it, thereby masking part of what it's really about - overcoming the anxiety, thereby breaking through to the other wide with a much deeper understanding of it all and one's place in it. With MDMA doing the hard part for me and me feeling all fluffy anyway, 5-MeO-DMT is simply very nice, but it's nowhere near as insightful as on its own, I think.
 
My experiences with salvia are on a level that I really wouldn't dare. I honestly don't think you've truly tripped with salvia if you're even considering mixing the two. Personally, I think you really need to just respect it on a higher level. You're probably better off asking this in the psychedelics forum. Honestly, MDMA is such a good drug on its own that many in this forum probably haven't even bothered mixing, you're more likely to find salvia vets there than here.

My recommendation? Do it with a friend, preferably one that is sober so that his roll won't be ruined by the possible panic attacks you can have if you get a bad trip (or even just a normal one. )
 
holy mother of god, smoking salvia (30x) while on 3 e pills was THE most fucked up i've ever been and i've shot/snorted/eaten every drug you can shoot/snort/eat. i had no concept of myself or my physical body. my bf had me lie down immediately after i took a hit. while i was in a salvia haze he started massaging my back and head, and it shocked the fuck out of me cuz i had forgotten that i had a physical body and that other people existed. the only thing in the universe was patterns and colors. later in the night, when i was coming down, i took another hit & asked my bf to ask me questions cuz i was curious if i would be able to reason on some level. apparently, i could answer questions just fine, but i don't remember what was asked or what i said. at any rate, it's well worth trying, the trip only lasts 15 mins most, not enough time to have a bad trip like shrooms or acid and i think it's interesting to see how far your mind can wander. i've smoked salvia other times while drinking or while sober and it's not as intense. you only trip alot of you take a big hit or if it's strong salvia. otherwise you just feel stoned.
 
Hello Psychedelic forumers!

I have a question that perhaps you guys may be able to assist me with. I tried posting this on the Ecstasy forums, and some of the forumers there pointed out that you guys over here may be better offer to answer my question, so here it is:

Recently my bf and I have tried salvia. Now while I was affected by it he was not. So we were thinking of having his younger brother smoke with us next time to see if maybe my bf smoked it wrong and that was why it hadn't affected him (it was our first time, so we really didn't know too much about how to smoke it). And although he is his younger brother he has been researching and partaking in these activities far longer than either of us, and his information has always been on the same page as my own research so I trust him. However the issue is that the next time we will see his brother we will all be rolling together.

So I was wondering, have any of you ever smoked salvia while either rolling or starting to come down from a roll, and if so what happened (good or bad, it helps to know)? We would most likely be doing this back in a hotel after our event with friends who would not be smoking it, so we may still be rolling a tad but not too much. We would also have weed with us in the room, however I do not know if the three of them can be combined.

Any information/personal experiences are appreciated.


*I did search the forums, however all I found was one experience where the person had also been drinking alcohol, and then one thread of drugs to mix with MDMA. Nothing really like what I was looking for.

**Also I have not been able to speak to my bf's brother about this as of yet either otherwise I would have posted the information I would have received from him.
 
The trip should be totally seperate from the MDMA. Although I have read from one report that someone who smoked salvia while on MDMA stayed in a trip for almost an hour, kind of like the salvia just mixed with the MDMA and created some flip? I am not 100% sure though.
 
^^ A lot can happen in 15 minutes of salvialand.....

1 Bong rip of 20x salvia while camping resulted in me experiencing my own death and judgment in the form of a televised talkshow, but in reality i was getting up and walking into a fire....

When i came back to reality i had no idea what had happened, i stepped into the fire bare foot, with shorts on.... got tackled out of the fire by friends, landed on and broke a tent.

Shit sucked, we didn't do any more salvia that night.... And to this day, i haven't fucked with salvia.... Short of having a padded room to do it in, probably not going to try it again....

If i do it, it will be at a festival in a giant field where there would be minimal ways of hurting myself and i would have friends knowing that i am on salvia to stop me from drowning in a pond or something should i decide to get up and move around....

If your going to try to blow down the doors of perception/just lose all touch with reality for a short bit.... dose 500ug of LSD, 250mg MDMA, and break out the nitrous while staring into the night sky....

Ironically, i saw someone fall into a fire coming down from salvia while rolling.... I told that earth hippy it wasn't a good idea.... He just singed some hair though....
 
If i do it, it will be at a festival in a giant field where there would be minimal ways of hurting myself and i would have friends knowing that i am on salvia to stop me from drowning in a pond or something should i decide to get up and move around....

I have a better idea, why not do it in a safer place. Like, NOT at a festival... how about your backyard, living room, in the middle of a grassy field. Try doing it with friends who are paying attention? I mean it's cool they tackled you off the fire... but holy crap what were they doing until then?
 
I have a better idea, why not do it in a safer place. Like, NOT at a festival... how about your backyard, living room, in the middle of a grassy field. Try doing it with friends who are paying attention? I mean it's cool they tackled you off the fire... but holy crap what were they doing until then?

To be fair, i was not really vocal about it.... There was no me saying "Hey guys, im about to take a bong rip of salvia.... don't let me do anything retarded" and im not generally the type who giggles retardedly on salvia, every time i have been told i was rather quiet...

I consider a festival to be one of the only places i would be comfortable blowing myself out of reality... I have a festival in mind, i have been there before, and as long as i have someone there to keep me from doing something stupid i will be fine....

Although i would much rather just do a large amount of DMT....

My house i see as a place where bad things could happen.... Too many things to trip over, break your head on.... Although we do have an empty room, its a 2nd floor room with a window.... I would need a friend to keep me away from that.... I probably won't fuck with it again, salvia is just one of those things that i don't consider fun... Its an adventure into the wonderfully strange potential of where the mind can go, but its generally just a bit too strange...
 
To be fair, i was not really vocal about it.... There was no me saying "Hey guys, im about to take a bong rip of salvia.... don't let me do anything retarded" and im not generally the type who giggles retardedly on salvia, every time i have been told i was rather quiet...

I consider a festival to be one of the only places i would be comfortable blowing myself out of reality... I have a festival in mind, i have been there before, and as long as i have someone there to keep me from doing something stupid i will be fine....

Although i would much rather just do a large amount of DMT....

My house i see as a place where bad things could happen.... Too many things to trip over, break your head on.... Although we do have an empty room, its a 2nd floor room with a window.... I would need a friend to keep me away from that.... I probably won't fuck with it again, salvia is just one of those things that i don't consider fun... Its an adventure into the wonderfully strange potential of where the mind can go, but its generally just a bit too strange...

LoL Oh... oh, you took a stealth hit of Salvia and nobody knew about it? Looks like I was a little hard on your friends...you know what you did. :3 Haha.

Stay safe man! :) No matter what you do. Salvia might be scheduled any year now... so enjoy it while it's still easy. Me? I don't blame you, I probably won't ever do it again.

If MDMA could be the only drug I put in my body, it would be the best thing in life. I would pay top dollar for a prescription of the stuff.
 
The trip should be totally seperate from the MDMA. Although I have read from one report that someone who smoked salvia while on MDMA stayed in a trip for almost an hour, kind of like the salvia just mixed with the MDMA and created some flip? I am not 100% sure though.

I was just wondering if that might happen, but now that you mention it I seem to remember reading a report like that too. Anybody know where it is?

Somebody also posted very recently that it killed their MDMA high.
 
The only time I've ever really enjoyed (rather than endured) salvia is taken on top of MDMA. I find it eliminates the cold, dark and foreboding nature of salvia and produces a far more enjoyable, euphoric and positive trip. I don't think I'd take salvia again without being on MDMA. I didn't notice any particular extension in the duration of salvia's effects and it certainly didn't kill the MDMA buzz.
 
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