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REVELATION caused by DATURA

Grigore said:
He taught me how to talk with cactuses .......................... I am everything,I am a psychiatrist,doctor,anyone and everything in this universe.
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Well, you're certainly not an English teacher: the plural of cactus is cacti. Ergo you're not me!

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EntheoDjinn said:
Well, you're certainly not an English teacher: the plural of cactus is cacti. Ergo you're not me!
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I'm conscious of my mistake and it's insignificant gravity.This is why I haven't corrected it.
But I'll do that for you,better said,for myself,if I'll convince myself to do that.
 
soaring peace2 said:
I am not you.
You are not me.
We have a lot in common ( genetics, etc ) but we are not the same thing.

These moments of feeling that everything is connected are fairly common to psychedelic users, I've had them too. But in the cold light of day a sane person gives these thoughts a thorough testing with a sober mind. Having done this many times I've come to the conclusion that when I feel that I am the universe and the universe is me it is an illusion.

I can never know either myself or the universe. The only thing I can ever experience is my concept of them ; the virtual universe Ive created in my head so I can navigate and try to survive in the real universe that we can never know.

It may feel that the doctor is you and you are the doctor, they feel the same and they feel connected. Well the concept of the doctor and the virtual you are connected, the thing they have in common is that they only exist between your ears.

And in other news I refuse to believe that an enlightened soul spends his time considering mutilating cat corpses and coming over house plants.


If you truly have found the meaning of life then do something useful with it ; go feed the homeless or cure cancer.
Thats a better use of your time than bullshitting on the internet
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The meaning of life is to eliminate my unsuccessful versions of myself,so,other version of myself can appear,prosper,become mature and succeed in life by giving it a meaning.
I,as an already broken version of myself(their opinion),I do not need to stay in this game,in reality,I am already out of the game.
My inner voice told me that they are after me because they want to remove me from the system so better versions of myself can come out.
The problem is that they don't know that I'm functional,totally sane and willing to carry on.
I won't fight,but I won't let them find me.
 
Well, from this and other threads of yours it seems like you're doing a great job of eliminating yourself. Seeing as you not only refuse to take advice but also seem to be proud of your self destruction, my only problem with this is that due to the very public nature of your downfall, you run the risk of taking other with you.
 
I think something is wrong with the people who talked with me yesterday in that bar.
They seem to know something,something about me,in the way I see them,they don't want something good for me.
This makes me understand that I should not eliminate myself from the system,this is exactly what they want.
That doesn't mean that I will fight,they are too many,all of them are after me,I'm going to hide until they'll forget about me.
..if they will ever forget me and what I've done...
 
soaring peace2 said:
These moments of feeling that everything is connected are fairly common to psychedelic users, I've had them too. But in the cold light of day a sane person gives these thoughts a thorough testing with a sober mind. Having done this many times I've come to the conclusion that when I feel that I am the universe and the universe is me it is an illusion.

I can never know either myself or the universe. The only thing I can ever experience is my concept of them ; the virtual universe Ive created in my head so I can navigate and try to survive in the real universe that we can never know.

It may feel that the doctor is you and you are the doctor, they feel the same and they feel connected. Well the concept of the doctor and the virtual you are connected, the thing they have in common is that they only exist between your ears.
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This kinda ruined psychedelics for me. One of the main reasons I have to trip is to escape from this normal reality and experience what is truly true. The want to feel higher conciousness.

Ok so mabey not ruined it :) but really poked a hole in my philosophy.
 
think about your book man, it seems soon you won't have the mental capacity to write it
in the one(or maybe 2?) weeks that you seem quite diffrent. you kinda made sense in the beggining now it seems your losing the plot
 
I'm feeling better than ever,datura was the secret ingredient for my enlightenment,I replaced my ordinary tripping routine and now I take datura everyday.
I've realized that I'm lost in a world that is lost within myself,all I need to discover is why people are after me,why I'm followed,why everybody wants to kill me.
After I find out and protect myself and my identity,I will discover the reason that makes them want to kill me.
I'm almost convinced that I have some sort of special power,all I need is to prove that to myself and to others,if I can trust them.
 
Those people, aren't real. They are figments of your distorted perceptions due to the simple fact you ate yourself stupid with Datura every day.
When I consumed an entire pod of these seeds. I wasn't "okay" for several weeks.
Font would scramble, and spell different things, none of it nice
Late at night there would be people in my apartment, harassing me. with yelling perverse and violent things at me.
generally right after i had just fallen asleep only to find myself waking up with this sinister looking monsterous guy standing at the end of my bed yelling at me.
Only to realize that he isn't there, i can put my hand through him, and this could actually be a piece of time, re-enacting itself.

I honestly do not think i ever got over that trip up until i visited a sweat lodge and received some serious shamanic therapy.

Mind i put myself through all of this when i was like 16-17 years old.

I am almost 30 now.
Having only done Datura twice, the second time foolishly was to see if the seeds i was fed by this random person at my highschool, were actually the same seeds.
That trip had purpose and meaning and depth and magnitude. But there is a sinister evil attached to those seeds, which does follow you.

I do not suffer from any true mental illness which i consider detrimental to my health or my life.
Due to the fact i found coping mechanisms and techniques for spiritual defense which allowed me to solidify the mind state that i had put myself into, and never totally understood.

But if you enjoy playing Russian Roulette with your brain and Potent neurotoxins. Like atropine and scopoloamine, we can't do anything except tell you Not To.
Ultimately this psychosis is your own. Remember schizophrenia is probably one of those loneliest mental conditions anyone could ever ask to have.

Here you are fast tracking yourself into it, without any rhyme or reason, trying to flaunt your balls for doing Datura more than once. It's not funny. It's stupid.

I'm going to tell you right now, that you don't have any special power, you think you do. You are imagining there are people following you wanting to kill you.
It's a figment the demon seeds will plant. It's something you are going to have to cope and deal with until you realize that all of this is a figment of your damage.
 
How can I know that if I drop my guard and believe you,you won't take advantage of that and find me and kill me?
You can be one of them,anyone can be one of them.
They come in my house,they scream at me,I hide,they disappear,they come again,I can't believe anyone.
I don't even know what they want,please tell me what they want from me!
 
If you are confronting spirits or shadow people. You need to hold yourself and not show them any fear or allow them to win or enter you.
Everything is alive for you right now, with intent. Malevolent forces need not to play any role in determining the out come of this for you.
Do not develop a realtionship with any of these spirits. As a realtionship with one is a form of possession.

This is about finding center, your home within your home, inside of yourself that still has light. Embrace that hold onto it. Your Anima Mundi.
Anyone you talk to, right now for the next 2-3 weeks Might not be real. So you need to becareful. About realtionships that start to occur with
Old Men, Blind Women, and ultimately anything that is not a reflection of your Anima Mundi.

Remain entact. Hold onto your heart.
Your Hallucinations cannot hurt you.
 
This has the inklings of psychosis of which i witnessed with a friend of mine that unfolded over a period of a couple of months.. it wasn't Datura but he had a mental predisposition, LSD and copious amounts of marijuna seemed to trigger it and for months he was convinced he had to find a particular equation that would solve the mystery of the universe; his sentences were incoherant and seemed to have no real basis in reality.. as it progressed he started to believe people were trying to stop him from discovering this 'equation' and he had accidently stumbled upon some massive conspiracy.

It ended up with him going into a panic believing they were venting toxic gas through the air-conditioner, police were involved and he was sent to the psychiatric ward. He seems well now, but hes on alot of different medications that seem to dull him down a bit..

Anyhow, be careful with what your doing.. it sounds like Datura induced psychosis; i know that no words on the internet will convince you otherwise especially if your caught up in the story your creating for yourself.. but try keep it in mind and stop.
 
Yes, those paranoid thoughts are one of the main symptons of psychosis. I also know a guy who thinks that government is trying to poison him etc.
 
My hope is lost,everyone is trying to fool me,I am lost in a world of TRAITORS!
How can I believe you? YOU were all planning this since I joined this site,I've always knew it!!!
You want to see me suffering,you want to make me experience a slow,emotionally painful and agonizing death.
You are trying to say that I'm WRONG,you want to make me believe that if you are nice that means that I'm the CRAZY GUY!!!!

DO YOU THINK THAT I KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT THE TAP WATER?
IT FUCKING TURNED BROWN,YOU REALLY THINK THAT I'M THAT DUMB TO DRINK IT?
IT TASTES SALTY,HOW STUPID SHOULD I POSSIBLY BE TO DRINK YOUR POISON?

I KNOW EVERYTHING,FROM NOW ON,I WILL HIT YOU WHEN YOU EXPECT IT THE LEAST,AS YOU DO IT TO ME.
THANKS FOR LYING ME FROM THE BEGINNING,EVERYTHING IS A LIE,ALL YOU WANT IS TO STOP ME FROM DISCOVERING MY SUPERNATURAL POWERS!!!!!!!
 
Taking datura is the single way of understanding how things really are,i was unconscious of your malefic plans..until now.

I will not let you kill me!!! If i won't be able to fight,i will hide from you,be prepared.
 
Grigore said:
He claimed that there are only 2 entities in the Universe:The Universal God which is created by the combination of all Gods and superior entities and me,or better said us,or even better said,everyone and every living being.

Then,I realized that I am everything,I am the cactus,I am the monkey,I am you.

Has anyone else figured this life secret before?
Now,I'm really glad that I must no longer learn how not to be afraid of others,now,I only need to learn how not to be afraid of myself because everyone is me and I am everyone! :)
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yep. i had that realisation. i think you are right

science inclined people might express it with "we are starstuff".

we are godxistence playing at being an infinite number of beings

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SyPvGsSPsZg
 
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grigore read your first posts then the later ones and observe how you own logic changes.

nobody here wants to hurt you. even if someone did how would that be possible - no one knows what country your from and certainly no one can color your tap water brown(while that is certainly possible effect of a hallucinogen).
use your common sense only you can save yourself and that does not include the ingestion of some plant
 
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