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Religious feelings about opiates

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Does anyone else think of Opium as a divine gift? Choosing to love Opium has narrowed my life in some aspects & greatly expanded it in others. She makes me feel loved & valued; the easy, detailed, colorful fantasies that She gives to me inspires me to love Her dearly in return.
I'm currently detoxing from methadone (my attachment to Opium occluded everything else in my life, methadone facilitated balance). Although I use Opium (as opposed to the dwindling methadone) rarely, maybe once a month, I feel Her presence with me. I believe She is helping me with the detox to support me in traveling freely and moving to a more rural environment.
 
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I actually do feel opiates are of a special essence. I am not religious, but opiates are so special, words can't do them justice. They make me feel excellent, in a way I never do otherwise. I don't believe in magic, but I have to say opiates are a true beauty of nature. Of course, romaticizing opiates can encourage people down the wrong path - addiction. Opiates are so addictive, SO addictive.
 
Alex000 said:
I actually do feel opiates are of a special essence. I am not religious, but opiates are so special, words can't do them justice. They make me feel excellent, in a way I never do otherwise. I don't believe in magic, but I have to say opiates are a true beauty of nature. Of course, romaticizing opiates can encourage people down the wrong path - addiction. Opiates are so addictive, SO addictive.
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Sure but I could say this about any number of drugs, certainly not just opioids.

And I believe tryptamines and phenethylamines fit the description much better; 'gifts of nature'.

By the way opioids are my DOC, but I don't see them as even close to as important or heavenly as tryptamines.
 
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I find opiates to be divine. They are nature's "cure-all". A substance which induces such a feeling as opiates does feel like something from the heavans. Dreamy, warm, and genuine contentedness, and euphoria so special that I think over it constantly. Dangerously addictive as I said, both my parents were opiate addicts, and both are gone.
 
Opiates do nothing except convince me even further that all religion is bullshit. In fact, all drugs do that to me - as well as not being on drugs.
 
I love opiates but I don't see them as a "divine gift" or anything like that. Maybe weed and shrooms, but definitely not opiates.
If they were really a gift from god they wouldn't have such a shitty withdrawal.
 
I dont see any connection between opiates & religion as far as my experience. I would say shrooms & LSD focus more towards spirituality.

Opiates make me feel contempt with whatever is going wrong in my life & they make me feel warm & cozy like I use to feel when I was younger & didnt have a care in the world & was constantly smiling, yes.....I was a very happy child growing up & how opiates make me feel now, I use to feel it some what naturally when I was younger w/o the use of opiates.
 
The_Jesus said:
I love opiates but I don't see them as a "divine gift" or anything like that. Maybe weed and shrooms, but definitely not opiates.
If they were really a gift from god they wouldn't have such a shitty withdrawal.
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Even Jesus doesn't believe the hype... =D
 
I believe that opiates when In liquid form are the blood of Christ. No bs.
 
I actually disagree with you completely, but that doesn't mean that I dont think this is an interesting topic you brang up. I feel as if opiates perpetrated a sham; they took me in and appeared to be THE answer to life: a way to be relaxed while stimulated, but also liked by people. Everyone liked me...and I could go through life feeling fulfilled.

And then I had to come off of it. My soul was mercilessly vaporized...period. I went through feeling as hollow as can be for a long time. I will not forgive it for that. But I know one thing: nothing beats the opiate high. I'll be doing it again, though it tortures me.

If opiates have to do with religion then Obama has to do with hope.
-the warrant being that the true value of something lies in how it effects you when its not their/when it doesn't have a vested interest

opiates obviously get one high just as Obama would obviously want the country believe that he was a revolutionary 'for the people'. When opiates leave just as when Obama is already elected, they both ignore you, but both will do a lot to gain your initial approval.
 
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Alex000 said:
I find opiates to be divine. They are nature's "cure-all". A substance which induces such a feeling as opiates does feel like something from the heavans. Dreamy, warm, and genuine contentedness, and euphoria so special that I think over it constantly. Dangerously addictive as I said, both my parents were opiate addicts, and both are gone.
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So a cure all is not such a true statement
 
After first trying opiates I realized that I had been in a w/d my entire life leading up to that point. They are a gift to humanity.....not a cure all but they make our existence tolerable. I find myself thinking about the euphoria they cause several times a day, just how beautiful the world looks through opiate eyes. Any movie is the best movie I have ever seen, music sounds muted but fantastic at the same time. Anyone in real pain from an injury(like myself) can see just how beautiful they are.
 
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After first trying opiates I realized that I had been in a w/d my entire life leading up to that point. They are a gift to humanity.....not a cure all but they make our existence tolerable. I find myself thinking about the euphoria they cause several times a day, just how beautiful the world looks through opiate eyes. Any movie is the best movie I have ever seen, music sounds muted but fantastic at the same time. Anyone in real pain from an injury(like myself) can see just how beautiful they are.
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I couldn't have said it better. When sober, I hate Seinfeld. When opiated, best show EVER. Seriously.
 
no. You ever had a ++++ on heroin?

Some drugs have spiritual undertones but certainly not opiates in my experiance. Feeling awesome and communing with the divine are entirely different.
 
Reminds me of what William Burroughs says in his book Junkie. Something about him becoming an Opium poppy.

I sometimes feel like this on Cannabis, usually when high ;-) In some way a stoner becomes the plant and gets controlled by it. They will grow the seeds and help it grow or pay someone to do it, they are almost a slave to it. Producing a drug is a great evolutionary strategy for a plant.
 
When I said opiates were a "cure-all" I didn't mean that they can't potentially do harm with respect to the addiction that can result, and all of the stuff that can be brought with an opiate addiction. I simply meant they make me feel better in everyway. They take away ANY and ALL types of pain, and even hearing the word opiate spoken aloud causes such yearning it becomes obsessivel. And I am not addicted to opiates physically, nor in any sense really. I use them rarely because of limited availability, but I do find them to be divine. Something to be respected.
 
In a "prayer" that I composed for Opium, I call Her the "Crown of Creation". How amazing is Her presence on Earth, how profoundly mysterious that the alchemy of sun, rain, soil, and humanity's long dance with Her can result in something so beautiful to the eye and so sweetly exhilarating when consumed. Her existence is as awe inspiring and humbling as the great redwoods; She is as generous with Her bounteous gifts, and as swift and merciless in Her destructive power, as the oceans that nourish and once cradled us.
 
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