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Regional Heroin Discussion v13: Points of reference

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It told you within 5% on a colour chart on the tube from blue to green i think, the darker the blue the stronger the gear

I don't doubt that's what you were told and what you believe, so I'm not calling you a liar. But I do find it hard to believe that there is a chemical out there that gets darker in reacting to another chemical depending on the purity of it.

In a chemical reaction like that the drug is either there forcing the color change or it's not so there is no colour change. It would take some kind of intelligent chemical to decide 'oh that's only 15% I'm only turning light blue'.... I just can't see it happening! If I'm wrong then I'm wrong and welcome such criticism IF it can be proven.
 
since I found this good gear that actually gets me gouching-which is very unusual for me,it's getting harder to stop using
 
I don't doubt that's what you were told and what you believe, so I'm not calling you a liar. But I do find it hard to believe that there is a chemical out there that gets darker in reacting to another chemical depending on the purity of it.

In a chemical reaction like that the drug is either there forcing the color change or it's not so there is no colour change. It would take some kind of intelligent chemical to decide 'oh that's only 15% I'm only turning light blue'.... I just can't see it happening! If I'm wrong then I'm wrong and welcome such criticism IF it can be proven.

Sounds like those EZ tests for cocaine.
They are absolute rubbish.
 
Scored today, am working night shift to tonight so couldn't really have a good session but from the half of a bag I did smoke it felt like the quality was still fine.
Will give it a proper test when I get home in the morning.
 
Yeah there seems to be a lot of gear around Dublin at the moment, a guy i hadn't heard from in ages rang me at the weekend saying he had 'proper gear' & i also got text off our mate to night saying he is back on. Also i guy i often score off rang me during the week to say he has a new much stronger batch.

So i have tried 2 out of 3, & yes as i said on here earlier in the week there is a bit of an improvement, but its still rubbish gear! The gear we have been getting since the drought was so poxey that it wouldn't be hard to improve on it, but this new batch is still crap! Well its crap compared to what i was getting before the drought anyway!

One of the guys i score off is a 50 year old man, he has been using heroin for 30 years! & he had the cheek to tell me that this was proper pre drought gear! I thought he would know better?! But i suppose they'll say anything to sell their gear! He was charging more for it & the deals were smaller, so i thought to myself that it must be good! Coz i know when things started improving in the UK the the price went up & the size went down. But my Boyfriend & i were really disappointed :( There really is fuck all of an improvement! Well thats my Dublin Up-date anyway, i scored this 'new batch' from both North & south Dublin.

I'm really thinking of just sticking to my methadone for the next few months, i'm sick of all the disappointments!
ya i got a phone call and a text from 2 people in Dublin so a big load of shit gear is after landing in dublin so another month or two for sure whit shit gear in Ireland
 
You might be better off dear - its just not worth the bother, still.

This stuff I've just picked up isn't anywhere near as good what I can get with cash off the other three guys,.[/B]

Yeah the gear that i scored over the South side was an improvement, it was a lot better then anything our bloke ever had (& i never even scored any of his really bad batch) But it was still crap!

Endless do you reckon that the gear your getting is proper strong heroin, like what was around before the drought? Or even close? Coz if it is your the luckiest bloke in the whole of Ireland! There were people almost in tears last week in the clinic, everyone had really got their hopes up with all this talk of a new batch, the dealers were spreading rumors that real strong heroin had landed! So everyone ran out scoring, paying over the odds for smaller deals & every single person i met were pissed off & completely disappointed with this 'new batch'

It is a tiny bit stronger, i smoked 3 bags of .2 in a row & i got a tiny bit of a buzz, but nothing much! & i had left a 30 hour break from my methadone. The gear did hold me a bit longer all the same, but methadone holds me too & thats free!!!! Another thing that a lot of people seemed to notice about the gear is that i looks even better! It burns so perfect on the foil, it 'looks' like the best gear ever! But its not!

Mr. Ructions is beside me, he wants to give his verdict of Dublin Heroin, & he also wants to say hello to you all!!! :) over to himself so .......

hello folks, it feels like i know half you lot already, i dont know wot to tell ya, that wont be wot anyone with a proper addiction dosnt know already, the waiting for proper good ol fashioned pre drought junk is cracking me up, i am just so sick of smiling while handing over cash for stuff, that 2 year ago i would have returned in an instant an said 'this is shit mate, are you trying to rip me off??'

if wot we got over here when times ware good, was about 20% (?) then i can honestly say that the best of whats here now is about 3 to 4% and the problem is that for the last year and a half we have just got 0 to 1% remember when there was nothing at all? then this stuff came out that sort off burned like junk, then people just got used to it, but i know there was zero junk in it because there was no effect at all, an wot people ware saying was 'oh but i can taste the gear' it wasnt the gear, it was the taste of the foil that you would taste with the gear, an cos it seemed a bit familiar, they thought this is o.k.

its the old syndrome, give a food conisour bread and water for 6 months, then hand him a scabby bit of mouldy cheese, he will think he is in heaven, and that is exactly wot has happened to all of us, but just think back to when you had your first ever taste, the endless scratching, that feeling that nothing can ever touch you, wrapped up in cotton wool.... has anything anyone got in the last 18 months done that for you?? because we all agree that for months there was nothing, so we ware all pretty much as clean (from junk) as we could be... well thats my two cents, im pretty sure im just repeating what a lot of other people have said,

as i said, i feel like i know a lot of you as herself is on this every night, and when she aint on it she is talking about it, i hope you are all well, as i said at the moment im getting really frustrated with the constant waiting, but as we all know, the one thing we can all do really well is wait, and wait and wait..... take care you lot, hope to see some of you soon.......
 
Hi mr Ructions . Nice to finally here from you , must be very frustrating , what you guys are goin through.
It's bad enough here, but at least we're getting thr odd bits of decent gear.
Someone said the other day can't wait for the day Ructions , post she gets proper gear, nor can I mate ,,,,all the best !

Re All this heroin % testing , I don't know fuck all about any of it .but could some who knows, please explain how the police test for purity and get there results. Cheers.

Still smokeing this gear that's strong , holds you very well but has some fucking awful sugary cut in it , first run you can't go near , second run taste shit , but it burns out after that and ok .
And it seems to run/burn out very fast , I'm forever topping it up and I'm goin through the bag fucking rapid.
 
Hey,Strungout ,got a bit of the old 'Frazzla' have ya.Aint it annoying when they fuck a good bit up with whatever they can find in the kitchen cupboard.Had some a while back that burnt up from start to finnish,couldn't smoke a single line.When i got my cash back this twat took a wad of cash out of his pocket,sold loads of it.I heard a few weeks later someone had stabbed him over it.
As for the % testing,i think they use the Acme Gouchometer in the back room.
 
thinking after 18years,all your encouragement,I may go for 1 lady test
In a sick kinda way,I think I was hoping that the longer I waited,the more chance I would have of having something untreatable
would be great to have some disease that is eating away at me from the inside
 
It was all a dream i never had a heroin tester kit - and i nevr had a coke tester either that was very accurate either so please dont askk me anyomre about it i obviously live in a dream world.
 
You can get tests kits that show the presence of herion and the darker the more rapid the colour change indicates the purity but there is no way to tie down the result to even within 10% unless you do some good guess work. You can break it down into say several states though -no herion present, traceable amount present, low amount present or high amount ect. Unless you have vast experience with these kits though there is no way you can work it out to an exact %. Police have 'field test kits' they can use to see if the drug is in fact a drug but other than that to get a % it's off to the lab.
 
^^ This.

Sorry blondin if I sounded like I was doubting your knowledge.
DITP makes a better point of things.

I actually have zero experience with any heroin test kits. Only the ones for coke. Which turned out to be a bit on the sketchy side.
 
That's good to hear Kat,just think how good you'll feel when the Doc' says "Well miss Tastic,everythings tickerty".
I should practice what i preech.I avoid dealing with problems and sweep them under the carpet.Last week i had the baliffs round wanting £800 for an unpaid parking ticket which was £1.20p that i let get out of control.I had to go to probation and thought i'd just be a jiffy ,what's the chance of......I only had to walk 20 meters to get change for the machine but couldn't be tossed.Didn't pay this,didn't answer that-£800 WANKER
 
really sick to fucking death of this now at this stage q full year and a half of bash bash and more bash

the cunts don't even re rock it or nothing they must mix in some amount of shit i reakin that there is one person making alot of money from this shit in ireland as all the shit in dublin is the same he's getting shit gear and making it worse i'd say he's making each key into two or even more

@ RUCT
so how will things change if one or two of them asian guys from england came over here whit a bit of good shit there's no limit to the amount of money that guy could make
it's open for anyone

Never said this before but thats it for me not going near it no more till there's something out there worth getting (going to lanzarote in may scored there before in 2008 the stuff was not as good as we were getting here at the time but i'd say it was 10 times better than what ere getting NOW!

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Had to score off different bloke today as couldn't get hold of the bloke with the good gear.
Bought 4 bags of shite. Fuck was I pissed off,gonna quit scoring off anyone else now unless I can get some off the bloke who had the nice stuff.
 
Oh why! Oh why! Oh fecken why did i mention the dreaded drug testing kit the other day! I will never utter the word heroin purity testing kit again!!!! Although at least it didn't turn into a two week slagging match this time, it was all very amicable this time! ;)

But one thing that i can accurately tell you all that the purity of this new batch of heroin in Direland is exactly BOLLOX% Plain & simple, thats what % it is!

@Griffin! :) Alright mate! Yep i've had it with the gear too, i'm not scoring anymore! I had completely cut back on scoring, then there was all this talk about a new batch landing & a few old heads were getting in touch with me, so the old excitement was really building up again! I was thinking 'THIS has just GOTTA be it!!!' But NO! It was just more good looking crap! FFS!

I'm sick to death of handing over cash for rubbish! I work really hard for my wages!!! & the tiny sizes of the poxey deals that they are selling! Who are they trying to fool? I'm totally done with it! Heroin is a whole new scene in Ireland now, its only really younger people who are using it at this stage & many of them seem more then happy with the rubbish they are been sold! They are telling their dealers that they are Gods & that their gear is wonderful! 8( They must have more money then sense! I know i have been foolish enough to waste a fortune on crappy gear as well, i too have been a total eejit! But i only ever score 2 or 3 times off different people in different areas to test the waters & then i give it a 2 week break before scoring again! But I'm still spending about €600 a month on gear, which is a lot less then i was spending before the drought, but at least i was getting proper stoned back then!

So yeah Griffin i'm giving it a break too, at the very most i might score just once every 2 weeks if the cravings are really bad! But i hope to stay away from gear altogether! Whoever is making that bash must be rolling around laughing at us all for buying it, rolling around in money that is!

I'm glad to hear your giving yourself a break from the gear Griffin! Although how am i gonna know when good stuff lands now? Your one of the few people who's opinion i really trust when it comes to gear! But i'm sure we'll hear about in the clinic if things improve!

Best of luck Griff! To-day is Sunday the 26th of Feb, lets see how long we last! It really makes it easier not to score when you know there is nothing worth scoring anyway!!! Enjoy your holiday & make sure that you stay in touch! :)
 
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going to take years to recover from this drought look at the uk they haven't ever recovered yet and don't look like recovering anytime soon

afghan gear has to be going elsewhere but where is there any chance it's getting into the u.s maybe that's way they started the war (bush done the whole 9/11 himself)

. Beter off keeping your money and going away somewhere you now your going to get good gear and have a good NOD and bring back a loud of it and don't forget to ring me when you do that's not a joke talk later
 
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Yeah, for me, Afghanistan is producing good amounts of heroin again but I'm thinking more and more that it's being funneled to the USA. With the American troops now coming out and saying that they're now guarding the fucking fields and not burning them down you gotta ask why???
 
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