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Regional Heroin Discussion v12 aka. Get yer junk out - Still no pricing please.

My fella still has right pukka bit of gear; very light in a rock little black specs,goes very dark on the jimmy taste nice and most important , gets you stoned. Very happy with it.

@ maxalfie Like you mate I ain't got a clue about all these rc's, the only thing I have been doin to compensate for the low grade gear is drinking like a fish.
So at least I know that this gear is good as iv cut my drinking right down , and still getting proper stoned.
 
endlessnameless said:
. It was needless though, as the guy I'm scoring from now (or will be tomorrow rather - as he was on his way to bed when I called tonight leaving me little option but to CWE 300mgs of codeine) had stuff all throughout 'the drought' but I didn't know him.


I havent scored even close to regular quality since around May which was off my last guy, but he demands cash and cash isnt possible right now.
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u cant score off tat bloke anymore coz he demands cash and cash isnt possible for you right now - so what do you have to do for the new bloke that makes it possible for you to score tomorro without any cash? - wat does the beast do to you?

other drugs used in stead of b? - na i dont do coke crack or speed these days - i gladly left all tat tackle way in the past - ive gone back to were it all started - drinking cans and smokeing joints - plus a few zimmos or zanax - and of course my phy but tats more necessary rather then enjoyment - id be bolloxed with out it
 
ive never heard of a dealer who dont demand cash in all my years of gear plus ive not noticed there being any stimulants in the gear except maybe once or twice, a year ago . You could be smoking it and getting numb lips either the stuff gives u a gouge or it dont god i hate this country
 
the bold one said:
i know how stupid this question is given the current state of play,but when was the last time any of you saw any bona fide white heroin? (china white)
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NY in the 90s, I never used but every cunt was sniffing it, it was the drug du jour, there was top notch cola everywhere but people was tired of it.
 
dub w/side update

Q- i know how stupid this question is given the current state of play,but when was the last time any of you saw any bona fide white heroin? (china white)

@bold one-about 7 months ago i gotta call off someone claiming they had 'china white'
Well-i picked up a bit,and sure enough it was almost white fine powder,it was also pretty strong and i was happy enough to buy it for about 2 weeks untill it dried up...Aparently it didnt come from the usual suspect around dublin-it was scourced from eastern europeans-i aint no expert on this stuff-but it seemed very strong at the time?

Back on topic-i collected yesterday-its a dark brown fine powder-smokes real nice,and has a good bit of strenght to it,compared to the rest around its that stuff NASA use.....what is it again?....

Oh yeah-rocket fuel :\
 
Never seen White heroin here. But like mega woof seen it in Oz , first time about 15 years ago scored .5 (half gram) chucked it on the jimmy and tryed to smoke it, the whole lot fizzled ,bubbled and burnt.
Never been into banging up and the guy I was with sat opened mouth as I try'd to smoke it. What a waste of 250 dollers !
Next few times I scored I sniffed it .2 at a time and it was pukka.
Iv heard of it being here , but never come across it myself.
 
megawoof said:
never seen white heroin in uk had it in australia while on hoilday and in the us
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also never seen it in this country

going back to the poster who thought she had developed a tolerance to her methadone
sorry my memory is so bad and don't recall who it was
i spoke with my keyworker about this as when i am just on meth i always feel that i am just on the verge of a rattle
she agrees that you CAN get a tolerance to meth as you can to any drug
but with the gov stopping maintenance scripts,nobody really cares-you just gotta cope with it
I know ppl who have been on meth for years who are getting forced into reduction
 
Many moons ago i had an extrodinary bit of luck a fof had just come back from Thailand and had 100g of double o globe or what ever the fuck its called - he needed to sell it but didnt know anyone in londonn and came to me as i was his only conect...imagine a mate turning up with a bag of this shit and asking me to sell it for him - man i had a blast for a 2-3 weeks just dipping in to it and the only people buying wrer dealers for themselves as all the punters wanted brown. Amazing gear just cold shake in the pin .1 would knock u sideways....fro a day or so then tollerance built up but not that bad. Trouble was when it all ran out i was skint and did a horrible rattle. The only time i snorted gear as well whebn i first opened the bag did a bit on a knife and got the warm belly glow. Apart from that never seen here in 30 years.
 
person i got it off is now dead , but he was extraordinarily connected for all types of stuff .

All the special types of Hash n exotic weed n the like , the last of that kind of breed of dealers imo.

When he had that gear he only sold about 3/4 gs in all don't no how much he had , he was a v. close friend and wasn't jus selling it to any1.
 
kkattastic said:
i spoke with my keyworker about this as when i am just on meth i always feel that i am just on the verge of a rattle
she agrees that you CAN get a tolerance to meth as you can to any drug
but with the gov stopping maintenance scripts,nobody really cares-you just gotta cope with it
I know ppl who have been on meth for years who are getting forced into reduction
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At risking of being boring:

Make sure anyone you know who's 'encouraged' into reduction and finds it counter-productive reports the fact. If they score to make up for the missing linctus, scream about it. If the 'key' threatens further sanction with your script for 'breaking the rules', they're simply strong-arming you and are right out of order - it's they who break the rules and a phone call, or threat of a phone call to the DAAT will stop them dead. Service users should demand any adverse reactions are entered formally in their notes.

Bit of a hustle, I know, but not half as much as losing your script might be. Remember, if you 'succeed' - or more relevantly can be reported as succeeding - with your reduction, they'll slam you with another. If you're happy to be reduced and can handle it, all well and good. But if you're not, don't think you have to lie down and take it.

If they start on you, understand that the guidelines are quiet clear - you should NOT be forced into reducing against your will. The government says no such thing, and your dsp isn't the government. But some dsps know users don't know that and run a game on them. It's how the users react - or their reaction is reported - that will determine future policy.
 
blondin said:
Many moons ago i had an extrodinary bit of luck a fof had just come back from Thailand and had 100g of double o globe or what ever the fuck its called - he needed to sell it but didnt know anyone in londonn and came to me as i was his only conect...imagine a mate turning up with a bag of this shit and asking me to sell it for him - man i had a blast for a 2-3 weeks just dipping in to it and the only people buying wrer dealers for themselves as all the punters wanted brown. Amazing gear just cold shake in the pin .1 would knock u sideways....fro a day or so then tollerance built up but not that bad. Trouble was when it all ran out i was skint and did a horrible rattle. The only time i snorted gear as well whebn i first opened the bag did a bit on a knife and got the warm belly glow. Apart from that never seen here in 30 years.
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double uo globe with the red lion stamp? thats a fucking score and a half!
 
charlie clean said:
At risking of being boring:

Make sure anyone you know who's 'encouraged' into reduction and finds it counter-productive reports the fact. If they score to make up for the missing linctus, scream about it. If the 'key' threatens further sanction with your script for 'breaking the rules', they're simply strong-arming you and are right out of order - it's they who break the rules and a phone call, or threat of a phone call to the DAAT will stop them dead. Service users should demand any adverse reactions are entered formally in their notes.

Bit of a hustle, I know, but not half as much as losing your script might be. Remember, if you 'succeed' - or more relevantly can be reported as succeeding - with your reduction, they'll slam you with another. If you're happy to be reduced and can handle it, all well and good. But if you're not, don't think you have to lie down and take it.

If they start on you, understand that the guidelines are quiet clear - you should NOT be forced into reducing against your will. The government says no such thing, and your dsp isn't the government. But some dsps know users don't know that and run a game on them. It's how the users react - or their reaction is reported - that will determine future policy.
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My keyworker told me that the guidelines state that you should need 1 month of treatment for each year you have been using
That seems a bit harsh to me
I been using for at least 15 years so should have 15 months of treatment
I been on my script for years now but they are not pushing me to reduce just yet
As I say,it's not like that for others though
and yeah,they are scoring to compensate for the reduction of meth,so it is obviously counter productive
 
Gizmo101 said:
u cant score off tat bloke anymore coz he demands cash and cash isnt possible for you right now - so what do you have to do for the new bloke that makes it possible for you to score tomorro without any cash? - wat does the beast do to you?

other drugs used in stead of b? - na i dont do coke crack or speed these days - i gladly left all tat tackle way in the past - ive gone back to were it all started - drinking cans and smokeing joints - plus a few zimmos or zanax - and of course my phy but tats more necessary rather then enjoyment - id be bolloxed with out it
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Ah howehyeh :|

Not much bro; I used to score off this present chap when the other chap didnt have anything in for a while. I'd spend about 60-80 a week cash, and then I'd usually end up calling him asking for one or two more at the weekend until monday. That went on for about two months and eventually I went over board one week and owed him most of my money, so he said if it suits me better he can give me up to 100 lay until the following week. It was more of a verbal agreement rather than actually 'doing' something 'for' him.
 
Kat:

Your keyworker is full of shit. Unless she's referring to new arrivals in Treatment. The present policy aims to 'successfully discharge' them in two years. Present clientele and especially 'Old Service Users' are a different category; they're to be 'encouraged' to reduce but no more. The most radical interpretation might allow enthusiasts to push one 'reduction' of a few ml onto suitable patients, to be reversed if the patient can't handle it. Even that should be with user consent; anything further and they breach their contract. ( unless you wrote 'I want to be reduced and not allowed to change my mind' in your own 'care plan' )

Recent research suggests chronic addiction produces neurological changes that make it, in effect, impossible for the longtermer to come off without at best suffering an all-encompassing depression for a long period; a conservative estimate is 4-6 weeks for every year of addiction. Doubt your key was confusing one with the other but you may want to suggest the possiblity to her.

What people want to do with their habits is up to them; if dsps want to facilitate their coming off, fine. But forcing them to replace their methadone with street gear strikes me as very wrong indeed, especially if drug workers 'cheat' and misrepresent to do so. Call it straight if they're trying to con you. They may be misguided and themselves 'conned'. Stop them and help.
 
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charlie clean said:
Kat:

Your keyworker is full of shit. Unless she's referring to new arrivals in Treatment. The present policy aims to 'successfully discharge' them in two years. Present clientele and especially 'Old Service Users' are a different category; they're to be 'encouraged' to reduce but no more. The most radical interpretation might allow enthusiasts to push one 'reduction' of a few ml onto suitable patients, to be reversed if the patient can't handle it. Even that should be with user consent; anything further and they breach their contract. ( unless you wrote 'I want to be reduced and not allowed to change my mind' in your own 'care plan' )

Recent research suggests chronic addiction produces neurological changes that make it, in effect, impossible for the longtermer to come off without at best suffering an all-encompassing depression for a long period; a conservative estimate is 4-6 weeks for every year of addiction. Doubt your key was confusing one with the other but you may want to suggest the possiblity to her.

What people want to do with their habits is up to them; if dsps want to facilitate their coming off, fine. But forcing them to replace their methadone with street gear strikes me as very wrong indeed, especially if drug workers 'cheat' and misrepresent to do so. Call it straight if they're trying to con you. They may be misguided and themselves 'conned'. Stop them and help.
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I am not personally being pushed to reduce-I just discussed a few things with her and thought those were interesting points to refer to
The main person I know being pushed to reduce their meth script is another BLer but dunno that he wants me to divulge his name
he's been on meth for quite a time but they are suddenly,and pretty quickly reducing him and he is,of course compensating by scoring
but he is not at the same drug service as me so I don't know if it is something that they are doing to all their patients
 
It doesn't seem to be happening everywhere. But with users reluctant to make a fuss, you just don't know.

Hopefully if your mate now knows what's allowed he'll be able to halt further reduction now. Tragedy is a lot feel it's easier to take their chances on the streets than put up with the hassle. But, as someone says on another thread, that's how a 'determined minority have been able to exercise undue influence' on Treatment for a long time; in the absence of contrary voice, government figures unversed in drugs have taken their word for it and users have been progressively more shafted. Even so, the idea is still to get people into Treatment to get them off the streets, not the other way around.
 
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