Regional Heroin Discussion v12 aka. Get yer junk out - Still no pricing please.

[blondin]

green eyed monster eh? like china said no one from london talks about the drought on here and hasnt for a long time cos if you know the peeps and got the dosh you can get quality - oh and ive been doing gear since 81 so do have a clue about whats good and isnt

 

[Vader]

Also how come's we cant discuss price's anymore and on the cannabis thread they allowed. Double standards on heroin users.

Because people were talking about bulk prices too much and it became too much of a hassle for the mods of this forum.

 

[kkattastic]

Because people were talking about bulk prices too much and it became too much of a hassle for the mods of this forum.

I appreciate what you're saying,but I don't consider an 8th or even a quarter to be 'bulk'
Maybe the plod do,but most users I know would not be selling any off their 8ball

I am aware,rules is rules,so only saying my piece,not demanding change

 

[Vader]

You might not, and I certainly know fuck-all about gear, but there was a rule that was in place, and it was being bent, so the mods of this forum put a different rule in place that was firmer. It wasn't (and isn't) my decision.

 

[Gizmo101]

green eyed monster eh? like china said no one from london talks about the drought on here and hasnt for a long time cos if you know the peeps and got the dosh you can get quality - oh and ive been doing gear since 81 so do have a clue about whats good and isnt

wo-wo-wo-WO! now lets calm down children. all i said about u was that you are so lucky to dodge the drought - i said i take my hat off to u - u lucky ting! why do u protest so much? did i hit a nerve?

and as for your pal china white - i seem to remember him calling him self part of the 'old b.l crew' even though he had only been using the site a few months - ha - tat sure gave a few people a laugh - tat sez a lot about u really

and blondin i been using brown for many moons also - but i dont find it something to boast about - wish id got away from it years ago -

im surprised by your defensive reaction - maybe u should read my post again old pal -

anyway im not here to bicker - life is to short - plus people on here dont want to read bitchn - sorry for wasting up space on this thread - again blondin i say lucky u for dodging the drought - i know if i could get my hands on some decent brown i wouldnt be on here in a pissed off mood - id be happily stoned and switched off -

 

[brimz]

green eyed monster eh? like china said no one from london talks about the drought on here and hasnt for a long time cos if you know the peeps and got the dosh you can get quality - oh and ive been doing gear since 81 so do have a clue about whats good and isnt

i live where i live in if u don't know yet , still if u near london n got transport u will score decent ,

same goes 4 bristol , just got no those mofos , n tbh i'm a lazy fuk but i do understand where cw comin from who u know all ways has been n also how much you willing to risk as well. think about it

 

[Gizmo101]

i live where i live in if u don't know yet , still if u near london n got transport u will score decent ,

same goes 4 bristol , just got no those mofos , n tbh i'm a lazy fuk but i do understand where cw comin from who u know all ways has been n also how much you willing to risk as well. think about it

things seem to have got a lot better in england the last few mths - at least yous have the choice to travel if u want some decent b - over here people are traveling up to dublin to get what we have and its just not worth traveling for - my advice to anyone reading tis who is thinking of comeing up to dublin to score is dont its just not worth it

i have being toying with the idea of hopping on a ferry to england for a little holiday - i have mates in hackney - but they said the brown over there from nov to may was shite - but they reckon its got a lot better now so it might be the rite time for me to make tat trip - if i hadnt wasted so much cash on useless b then i cud have flown over 1st class instead of getting the ferry - but you live and learn.

from reading on here and from talking to mates in england tings have bing steadily improving over there the last few mths - u would wonder why it hasnt trickled in over here yet - the b has improved some but its still bad - its as if 'they' have got beetter at making pretend b - there does seem to be a small amouut of heroin in wat we are getting - but i must stress the word small - but it really does seem to be coming in to ireland bad and then it gets worse by the time it hits the streets

so many lets downs and disappointments in the last year wen it comes to b - but its so hard not to keep testing and hopeing - so many times i have been told there is strong brown available and each time it turns out to be the same old shite - but one ting i have learned is tat one mans dynamite is another mans less the average - i tink some people in dublin are so used to the life style of being on heroin tat now even wen there is nothing worth scoring they will still score coz they dont know wat else to do - do u know wat i mean? - tings/people have gone so weird in dublin - ive never seen anyting like this b4

 

[charlie clean]

things seem to have got a lot better in england the last few mths - at least yous have the choice to travel if u want some decent b - over here people are traveling up to dublin to get what we have and its just not worth traveling for - my advice to anyone reading tis who is thinking of comeing up to dublin to score is dont its just not worth it

i have being toying with the idea of hopping on a ferry to england for a little holiday - i have mates in hackney - but they said the brown over there from nov to may was shite - but they reckon its got a lot better now so it might be the rite time for me to make tat trip - if i hadnt wasted so much cash on useless b then i cud have flown over 1st class instead of getting the ferry - but you live and learn.

from reading on here and from talking to mates in england tings have bing steadily improving over there the last few mths - u would wonder why it hasnt trickled in over here yet - the b has improved some but its still bad - its as if 'they' have got beetter at making pretend b - there does seem to be a small amouut of heroin in wat we are getting - but i must stress the word small - but it really does seem to be coming in to ireland bad and then it gets worse by the time it hits the streets

so many lets downs and disappointments in the last year wen it comes to b - but its so hard not tn - ive never seen anyting like this b4

I'm not the most up-to-date nowadays but it does seem a bit here today, gone tomorrow. Authentics do keep habits going without recourse to the doc in Southern England but it's tough. If you were coming over, I'd budget to stay a week or longer; you might have to wait a bit to get anything worth taking back.

Poor Vader, caught between a rock and a hard place with the 'pricing' issue. I'm more curious about the law. I'm sure representatives of various 'authorities' peruse the site from time to time and occasionally I see posters ( can't remember who) query the bonafides of new arrivals. You'd think the authorities have better things to do but there's a lot of nuttiness around; the extraordinary story of Mark Kennedy is one example.. Have drug police ever attempted to 'infiltrate' the site by posing as members?

 

[Vader]

I don't think that's happened, because drug police don't know enough about drugs to convincingly pose as a user on a forum like this. It's all well and good scoring off a dealer, they can manage "can I get some brown? I'm on a rattle", but in this thread, for example, it's pretty obvious that the regular posters really do use heroin. It's also not really worth it; people on here aren't likely to be big-time dealers, and if they are, they're not likely to make that obvious. People have been busted due to posts made on BL, but it's generally when they've planned meet-ups in public, which is obviously pretty dumb. There is also suspicion that there may be some posters on BL who are informants, which is probably a more realistic scenario. Of course, people shouldn't have to worry about this if they're following the BLUA, but the reality is that people do engage in shady business through the site, and if you are one of those people, remember that anyone can create an account. Be smart, stay safe

 

[charlie clean]

I don't think that's happened, because drug police don't know enough about drugs to convincingly pose as a user on a forum like this. It's all well and good scoring off a dealer, they can manage "can I get some brown? I'm on a rattle", but in this thread, for example, it's pretty obvious that the regular posters really do use heroin. It's also not really worth it.

You wouldn't have thought the Met would think it worth it to send a heavily tattooed, longhaired officer to live undercover for eight years among harmless environmental protesters, though, would you?

Perhaps it'd be the 'rave' threads, where people are generally more trusting, that would attract any police nutters. Might be worth investigating if it ever happens in order to raise a mighty fuss if it does. It'd get the site on the front pages if not something in damages.

 

[oxynorm]

Just read this article, really sums up how pathetic our law enforcement really are

"On the basis of our analysis we have estimated that heroin users in Scotland consume a total of 10,705kg of heroin annually. Police Forces in Scotland, by contrast, reported seizing a total of 101.6kg of heroin in 2005–06. A simple calculation shows that this means Police Forces in Scotland seized
101:6kg / 10705:0 kg ~0:009% (1:0%) of the total amount of estimated heroin in Scotland in that time period"


Picked up a teenth from my man of the same old fire hes had for the last few weeks, bar a blip where he was off for two days. Can honestly say the shit is the hottest stuff I've ever picked up in Glasgow, hell even the UK. I've "copped" some NYC dope before, and while obviously its a lot better, I could see myself alternating between it and this gear as I'd like to chase the dragon some days, IIRC H #4 cannot be smoked. With this Glasgow gear .1 in the pin will have you gouching and close to OD, the gear is a bit dodgy to hit up in all honesty due to its potency. My dealer regularly tells me how wary he is to sell to jaggers, and I can clearly see why. Out of curiosity I bought off 2 different dealers, one had this stuff thats kinda dark and sugary looking, just your typical standard street gear imo. It did the job, certainly much closer to PD standard, but absolutely nothing compared to this. But if I couldn't get this gear I wouldn't complain. Other stuff isn't worth posting about, tried my old dealer for a laugh, he's had nothing but shite since last Dec and low and behold, he still has shite! The stuff was supposidly "the real deal mate", it frazzled out after a marathon session of 3 lines!

I have a moderate/high tolerance, and if .2 smoked gets me all warm and nodding, then its fuckin potent gear. Also, the tooter is literally covered in streaks of black, for example smoke one small bag and you are able to burn at least 4 lines from the tooter alone, simply amazing stuff. Wish it wasn't though as I'm desperate to come off.

Being of Irish origin myself, I really feel for my brethren over the pond: from what I've read the scene in Ireland really does seem the worst in the whole of Europe, hell, looks like you'd be able to score better in Singapore....really hope it picks up for you lads over there sometime soon...maybe when the new harvest lands, I really hope it does...

For those interested, here is a link to that piece of research: http://files.stv.tv/pdf/heroin-seizure.pdf

 

[Vader]

You wouldn't have thought the Met would think it worth it to send a heavily tattooed, longhaired officer to live undercover for eight years among harmless environmental protesters, though, would you?

I thought he was infiltrating fairly hard-line groups that were engaging in sabotage and the like, but still, you'd think they wouldn't fly helicopters around to catch people growing a bit of weed in their attic. There's not really much we can do about it if it does happen, other than remind people that it's a public board, and that the rules against dealing/buying are there for their own protection, too.

 

[oxynorm]

Below is a great little excerpt detailing the drought situation across Europe, I thought you guys on this thread would find it interesting since their seems to be a genuine lack of anything authoritative regarding the situation on the continent. Full journal is here: http://www.idpc.net/sites/default/files/library/IDPC-briefing-paper-heroin-draught.pdf



Country Albania
Shortages, at time severe. Prices more or less stable,
but quality very low.
Aksion Plus (NGO)
Denmark
Mixed reports, but no severe shortage. Shortage of
Afghan (brown) and total lack of South East Asian
(white) heroin in June/July 2010, but supplies have
since resumed. Decreased purity in street heroin over
past year or more.
Danish Street Lawyers & Danish
Drug Users’ Union

Eire
Severe shortages, price increases and decreases in
purity.
Online drug users’ forums, News
media.

France
No firm reports of shortages, but some suggestions of
disruption at street level markets. Mixed indications.
Online drug users’ forums and Swiss
Federal Office of Police FEDPOL.

Germany
Mixed reports. No shortage reported in Berlin. NorthRhine-Westphalia region reported increased prices
and poor quality 6 months ago, but heroin flow has
since resumed.
AZKEPT (NGO)

Italy
Shortages, at time severe, particularly in Northern Italy
but affecting much of the country, with the exception of
Naples. Purity greatly reduced.
Drug treatment services

Netherlands
Mixed reports, but shortages and price increases
reported in Amsterdam over last 6 months.
Drug consumption room, Amsterdam

Russian Federation
Shortages, at times severe, across much of the
country and worsening through 2010. Reduction in
purity, increases in prices. Major transitions to use of
alternative drugs by users.
Andrey Rylkov Foundation for Health
and Social Justice, Moscow (NGO)

Serbia
Shortages, at times severe, since March 2010.
Reduced quality, (from an already low base of >5%).
VEZA (NGO)

Slovenia
Shortages, at times severe. Reduced quality, increased
prices (doubled).
STIGMA (NGO)

Sweden
No shortage reported, both Afghan (brown) and South
East Asian (white) “very easy” to obtain.
Swedish Drug Users’ Union

Switzerland
Shortages, at times severe, in Northern, Western &
Eastern cantons. Increased prices, decreased purity.
Federal Office of Police (FEDPOL)

United Kingdom
Shortages, sometimes severe, reported since
September 2010. Steep decline in purity followed
by increases in price. The shortage has affected the
whole of the UK.
Drug testing services, Metropolitan
Police, drug user groups & online
forums, treatment services

 

[trip2themoon]

I just got off the phone to one of my dealers. Had an argument with him about his shite things. I told him he aint had anything worth smoking for a year now and how he shud stop buying the cheapest crap going and he said 'well I'm still selling it and have been for the last year so what does that tell you?'. The honest answer is I dunno what it tells me, I really don't. That there are a lot of deluded people? That maybe they've never had anything any good so don't know any better? Or maybe they just forgot what good gear is/was? I'd love to ask them.

His w's has gone downhill too and he says people are liking that too! The same people who like the shit b's? I know what's good and what aint, I'm not imagining it. But why shud he get better, more expensive things when there are dickheads buying the shit from him?

He used to be a good dealer but I won't touch him now, not until he gets better things and I aint holding my breath on that one.

I'm SO pissed off with things at the moment it's untrue. There has to be decent things about but I dunno where. Norway good, Holland good, Glasgow good. Brum shit.

I think that says 2 things. 1: That (many) people are stupid and 2: He's a total scumbag.

Personally I've noticed the quality of the gear has took a serious nosedive over the last 4 years and that anyone who's taken up a kit habit in the last 4 years has sadly missed out on the joys of good strong gear. I remember back when the kit really was dynamite that when I flossed my front teeth after smoking a bag the floss would turn black and I remember once when I picked a bit of kit off my front teeth I though: That's way to big to chuck away, so I put it on my foil and it ran for 3 inches. Even this so-called good kit that's kicking about hardly sticks to the teeth. Good strong kit will always stick to your teeth. I don't think I'll ever see proper dynamite the likes of which I scored from Greenock in 1997 ever again. .

To our friends in the ROI: I think it may be time to give up or travel abroad because I really don't think the UK or the ROI will ever see good strong sticks to your teeth kit ever again.

Last week I met an old mate who used to come to Greenock with me and my mates back in the day and we were discussing the whole sorry situation. He said that those further up the ladder have mortgages to pay, 4x4 cars to fuel and insure and foreign holidays to be taken. They have a lifestyle which they are accustom to and they aint gonna give it up anytime soon, so as long as people buy bashed up muck, then they will sell it. We are doomed. The decent stuff I've been getting since April truth be told: If I was sold this 10 years ago it would have been considered shit

 

[brimz]

Seen that paper b4 very intresting , shame nothing on Spain or Portugal ,

These are two places i do have conections Porto is still ok although sizes have dropped by accounts , Seville is the same as it was last year n that was proper , this is just what friends have told me, so its not gospel although they would have nothing to gain by making it up as i may turn up on one of their doorsteps !

 

[trip2themoon]

Below is a great little excerpt detailing the drought situation across Europe, I thought you guys on this thread would find it interesting since their seems to be a genuine lack of anything authoritative regarding the situation on the continent. Full journal is here: http://www.idpc.net/sites/default/files/library/IDPC-briefing-paper-heroin-draught.pdf




Russian Federation
Shortages, at times severe, across much of the
country and worsening through 2010. Reduction in
purity, increases in prices. Major transitions to use of
alternative drugs by users.
Andrey Rylkov Foundation for Health
and Social Justice, Moscow (NGO)


Sweden
No shortage reported, both Afghan (brown) and South
East Asian (white) “very easy” to obtain.
Swedish Drug Users’ Union

That Krokodil that many Russians are in to is scary shit. I'm glad to be British and able to get a meth' script.

Seems like Sweden is the place to be for both brown and white kit. I didn't know that white was easy to get any where in north west Europe but I have heard that good strong Afghan brown is best for smokers.

 

[brimz]

Thgats what we get over ereAfghan brown well supposed to be !
only had Asian white gear a few times , was dynamite, half a . dropped me for hours .

 

[charlie clean]

A mate was telling me about a lad who came home after a year of wheeling in Thailand. Said he'd try two bags though he'd need much more cos of what he was used to. Keeled over. Probably the downers but maybe a crude shock to his system. Why doesn't white smack get to the UK?

Everyone moans there as here things ain't like they were but there's doesn't seem much of a drought in Europe now - the link was first posted here at the end of last winter. No first hand experience but people back from Spain, Portugal, Italy and Holland all report getting gear better than they find at home and online posters bring similar news from elsewhere. Unless anyone resident in or familiar with European cities knows different?

 

[endlessnameless]

As much as it might seem like that, I was struck pretty badly by the drought (assuming I'm that Irish guy). It was needless though, as the guy I'm scoring from now (or will be tomorrow rather - as he was on his way to bed when I called tonight leaving me little option but to CWE 300mgs of codeine) had stuff all throughout 'the drought' but I didn't know him.

A year on...well, I can say that things are still nowhere near where they were before - but I'm happy with what I'm scoring at the moment. Its not ideal, but it gets rid of my depression and that's all I'm after in a drug. Frankly - with the prospects of a job looking likely soon enough I could do without the nod - although a nod can still be had if I really want it.

I dont mean to shift all the 'attention' on to blondin, but I do recall him mentioning several times throughout my own worst experiences of the drought (especially the month up to, during and after Christmas 2010) that he was scoring usual quality. I havent scored even close to regular quality since around May which was off my last guy, but he demands cash and cash isnt possible right now.

I had a question written about CWE's and histamine releases written out but I deleted it - guess I'll post it in another thread.

Hope all is well folks...this codeine just saved my arse from a night of insomnia in the Arctic circle.

 

[daveb100]

You know what ?, i actually think things are starting to dry up again, things were just starting to get a bit better in west mids (dudley/wolves/wbrom) but its all going to shite again its seems to be getting weaker every couple of days.anyone else having same thing happen ? i'd give anything to go back to the 90's, you couldn't buy shit smack then it was all good, wot the fuck is going on ?