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since mid october of 2010 ive heard and read about some colourful posts from transparent gear (on foil) to gear cooking up blue, but no-one when last asked what wud make a toother collect green residue, as when i was nicked going bak a few months the gear was really stong (prob normal pre-oct standard) but tube went green. any ideas? and why considering the strengh of gear was brill considering whats been happening? anyone seen this before?
 
since mid october of 2010 ive heard and read about some colourful posts from transparent gear (on foil) to gear cooking up blue, but no-one when last asked what wud make a toother collect green residue, as when i was nicked going bak a few months the gear was really stong (prob normal pre-oct standard) but tube went green. any ideas? and why considering the strengh of gear was brill considering whats been happening? anyone seen this before?

never seen anything turn green on the tooter,but if you were caught with said gear,would their lab report possibly say anything on the matter?
 
Cheers J i did put it up with you in mind.

All that tosh about the Portuguese being tolerant is fine untill you go their and discover the corruption .
It pays to comment on something like that only if you have first hand experience i've learnt.

Thanks Brimz! It sounds analogous to mexico were the federal goverment decriminalized possession of certain amounts, depending on the drug
up to 40 mg for heroin8(, like anyway would waste their time on 40 mg of tar. Anyway, guidlines or not, if your found with any amount, even bellow the "legal" threshold, your going to jail unless you pay the "fine" arbitraily deceided on by the federale/ or whatever adjancecy the cop belongs to. Then they'll ususally send you on your way with your drugs.

But there is a war down there and our brilliant government's ATF provided cartels with arms through a program called fast and furious ostensibly to track were the guns were going and roll up the caretel leadership. But everyone knows were and who the cartel leadership is including the corrupt mexican goverbnment that favors some like the Sinaloa Cartel and maybe the Zetas. At any rate the operation which involved thousands of fire arms bought by agaents possing as "straw buyers" us nationals that can legally sign off on the sale of like 1000 AKs or AR-15s, were ATF agents possing as such. It blew up in their face when a border patrol agent was shot by gun purchased during the op. It came to light by agency whistleblowers.

Anyway, my theory (and it isn't original) is that the US State department under Hillary Clinton is trying to destabalize Mexico which is no longer acting like our lap dog doing our bidding. At any rate the op was fucked up (plus US agents arent allowed to operate in Mexico, atleast in an armed capacity) so the goals are dubious- and they didn't inform the Mexican gov- which makes it more suspicious.

Anyway, thanks again for the link Brimz. Kat assuming your parents would fill your wish list, the pharmacies are more likely to ask for an Rx for controlled subtances the farther you are South. Its a few pharmacies near border towns that have liberal policies. But any doc will probably Rx you anything you want in most parts of the country, the farther south you go, the more conservative, and I believe this applies to Drs, too- but it sounded like your parents weren't thrilled about the idea.
Getting stuff across borders- I was still dope sick when i came with my dad and flew into Frankfurt in 96'. I had 100 10 mg valiums in my pocket that a doc here Rxed me to help kick. 20 mg before hand made me relax and we got waved through customs.

Last piece of news that has serious bearing on the gear scene. In 2009 in a documentary a US captain in the USMC went on record saying "were leaving the opium alone, thats their livelyhood." 2 days ago I talked to a marine discharged from Afghanistan and I asked about patrols in Poppy fields. He said, " oh yea, there were lots (in Helmund), we'd walk through them and burn them down,,,Marijuana fields too.." then he was saying that they turn them into hash which he wasn't sure what that consited of excactly, and he talked about the bulbs being lanced and the fluid that turned brown, the opium latex.
He told me they made them were gas masks=D, while doing their crop burning. At any rate he was moving back to his farm in Iowa. What he told me (though he didn't support the drug trade) was that opium is just a crop to them. As he put it, if someone decreed that there crop of corn in Iowa had to be burned down because it was a threat to humanity he and his dad and brothers would grab their guns and protect the farm...that crop is just food on the table...so now the US has joined other NATO (UK military had the lead) in crop elimination. What better way to alienate the population- that morphine could atleast be sold legitimately- there are 3rd world countries that have a severe shortage, its on the WHO essential meds list.

The sooner we get our boys and girls out of it the better. This sentiment is shared by even hard line conservatives I've talked too. Hit AQ with drones and SAS, SEALS, and other special forces groups...but leave the afghani's and poppies alone. I'm sure the Afghan national police will do a better job (probably very little).;) And leave the Afghans alone...thats what they want- I've heard this from just about every Afghan expat I've talked too. Even the whole infrastructure program- I hear over and over "we were poor but happy before the Soviets rolled in in 79'". Now there is missery and suffering."

The US Military getting into the gear interdiction game- that aint gonna win you any hearts and minds over there- just creat more enemeies and terrorist recruits. We fucking didn't learn shit from Vietnam. As they say, "the past is prologue."

Whats relevant for Europe is that this isn't gonna help the drought situation and might be one reason prices and quality aren't comming back, maybe even bigger than the assasination of Willie Karzai, the PMs corrupt brother that was making millions off the local southern opium trade.

We gotta get the fuck out, tommorow...wonder if opium is the reason alot of our NATO partners are still maintaing a presence inspite of tight budgets and austerity measures...Germany in particular, they are known for avoiding deploying their military anywhere- though there national police took the lead in training the Afghan National police in counter narcotics. SOCA, Special Branch, DEA, probably all did their part- it wont matter- I hear the Afghan National Police is a joke, the ANA slightly better because the US and UK started making them go through the door first on a patrol- they used to run away during firefights leaving NATO forces to stand their ground and fight for themselves.

What a clusterfuck, atleast Libyia was a situation were their was a popular uprising. Atleast the US took a back seat in NATO support of that one. Let Sarkosy and Cammeron get all the credit- the time to stop sticking our nose in everyones bussiness is long overdue, and that sentiment, thankfully is increasing in this country, when you talk to the common man.

NATO OUT OF AFGHANISTAN!

sorry for the rant but what the newly discharged Marine told me was unerving. Fucking Obama. All these politicians are a bunch of fucking wankers!
 
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since mid october of 2010 ive heard and read about some colourful posts from transparent gear (on foil) to gear cooking up blue, but no-one when last asked what wud make a toother collect green residue, as when i was nicked going bak a few months the gear was really stong (prob normal pre-oct standard) but tube went green. any ideas? and why considering the strengh of gear was brill considering whats been happening? anyone seen this before?
You got me mate. Maybe it was a cut or more likely a reagent that hadn't been washed out in the workup. But which one, I don't know, or dye from the container it was smuggled in. Keep us informed, would like to hear the results of the report but I'm guessing the assay employed would probably be checking for the presence or abscence of gear, and maybe its purity, but I'm not familiar with UK forensic methodology.

If the Crown pressed charges- Good luck!
 
Oh yeah j the footage in that film was very tame . The part of Bairro where shit goes down wasn' t shown
You got like 4 lines one for Dope ,Crack, Cocaine n Hash its very well organised n the Police get payed off so nobody gets snatched at Rush hour
 
I know this aint Europe but I just wanted to say I totally agree that good dope is flooding everywhere.

About 2 years ago, here in NYC I was getting SLAMMING shit. I mean the kinda shit you could just snort and catch a good nod.

Then all of a suddem, shit came around. So I went on too roxys which were more expensive and less potent!

So 2 years on oxys I said "lets see how dope is doing again"...called a dealer my boy hooked me up with. And btw your dealer is everything. My guy, is just a cool mellow surfer dude who gets it and bags it as is. Infact he does it right in front of me. "Want a gram?" -takes knife, takes some out of kilo, weighs, bags- and this shit is SLAMMIN. One bag banged had me in a Euphoria that is almost impossible to describe. It IS pricey though. 15 a bag and 120 (really 130 but im a constant buyer) a gram. Worth every last cent.
 
Oh yeah j the footage in that film was very tame . The part of Bairro where shit goes down wasn' t shown
You got like 4 lines one for Dope ,Crack, Cocaine n Hash its very well organised n the Police get payed off so nobody gets snatched at Rush hour

Thats funny- police in Mexico get paid to protect drug spots especially in Tijuana. However, i get a feeling that in Porto you don't have to worry about getting kidnaped and held for ransome. That happened to a dude I met. He crossed to hook up. They held him for ransome and called his parents asking for 10,000. His parents were done with him and said just shot him. Anyway, the guy watching him was supposedly nice and though he was tied to a chair would smoke schards of meth puting the pipe in his mouth and lighting it for him. Finnaly, after hagling, they settled for $500.00, stole the guys passport (probably more valuable than that), and sent him on his way.=D Unfortuanately, most kidnapings this day don't end this well and torture is usually involved.

Plus Portugal is probably overall a more pleasant place to visit. Is the Bario in Lisbon. Are there other cities you can score easily.

Cheers Brimz!
 
Lisboa has cleaned its act up to a lrage extent their are still more addicts than your average place, in the 90s it had the largest open air market in Europe the infamous Casal Ventoso http://youtu.be/qEDZXuRcGig

This is an excellent clip mostly filmed under cover.
i'm not trying to compare Portugal with Mexico , i have been to Tijuana in the early 90s only for a day with my cousin mind !
I'm just putting out info on places where i have 1st hand experience of the scene as i know you are intrested in stuff like this.
Peace man ,
Brimz
 
Thanks my man, i really enjoyed your post. Your right, i have a morbid curiosity about the world's dope scene. TJ doesn't really compare, to Porto even though i haven't been to the latter. TJ I haven't been to since maybe 07'. Been south of the border in a Place called Rocky ponit- its the place alot of people from Arizona go to the beach because the drive is half that of going to California. Its in the sea of Cortez- it reminds me of Greece in many ways, especially the weather in thhe fall. I was detained by police their on Thanksgiving 06' for possession of Cannabis- they were gonna take me to the station but let me go after I paid $30. Were realy kinda nice guys- they acted, almost, like they felt bad about doing their job.

Difference beteween Portigal and Mexico is that your comparing a developed nation to a developing one. TJ is run down- it hasn't changed much since the 90s- its trippy, wouldn't you agree what a huge change it is crossing the border- the smells are different, their is lots of poverty, card board shanties, like going from the UK to Morroco. Anyway, used to go there b/c the drinking age was 18.

Its been a place people from around Mex go to cross the border into the US so its diriter and rougher than other places in Mexico. its always survibed on providing services not available in the USA- people would go their to drink and gamble in the 30s. After that people would go there and get drugs OTC in pharmacies like seconal, mandrax, and dexedrine. Then the controls got stricter but i knew a place in the 90s that would sell alot of stuff OTC- Valium, Halcion, percocet, steroids for boduy builders. Latter that spot sold Oxy- but the guy asked $40.00 for an 80mg pill. I thought he was talking about a box or strip of pills.8o Anyway, back then I stuck to tar from a new connection- it was cheaper and better anyway. Fireworks, switchblades (you can own Aks in the US, but you can't buy switchblades).8( I hear that heroin, crack, coke, weed, speed, even occasionally PCP are available. Apparently there are several drug spots. My friend used to go to a restauarant were they dealt out of and let you use the bathroom to get high. Some spots were behing liberal pharmacies- get OTCs in front and illicits in back. The mexican government cracked down hard on drugs (I hear avanida revolutione- were all the nightclubs were has military posted up and down the street.

TJ has legal brothels- and thats were alot of drugs are- had a friend that would go to one and the girl would bring up a pipe of crystal meth that they would smoke together. I hear recent stories of Americans replacing belly shots at strip clubs/ brothels with lines of coke you can do on girls tits.

Lest I forget "animal pharmacies that had special K and pentobarbital that alot of "death tourists" would come from all over to purchase lethal doses. many stoped when they found out what it was for (alot of devout catholics). If I knew I would have loved to buy a recreational dose.

Anyway, Thanks brother, I really enjoyed your posts. The last one was cool- Journeyman has some good productions- think their based in South Africa. Anyway from your posted link, I found something about Bristol gangs. It focuses on Coke but they mention Ireland as a major source of enetery in one of the episodes (I think 20.)

So incase anyone is interested: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=42zVEC75JBk&feature=related

Dublin related youtube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5WXNY8MGdyg

There were a few other youtube productions based on Eire from your link, case our Irish cousins are interested.
 
i'm not trying to compare Portugal with Mexico
Difference beteween Portigal and Mexico is that your comparing a developed nation to a developing one.

lol!:)
i've seen that clip on Bristol b4 and many times have i scored on Stapleton Rd.

its trippy, wouldn't you agree what a huge change it is crossing the border- the smells are different, their is lots of poverty, card board shanties, like going from the UK to Morroco.

Most Definatley
 
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Thanks for letting we Europeans know. We'll leap on a plane first thing.

Lmao I'm a dick. Im just saying that heroin is deffinedley getting more potenet world wide. Ill say this much though. Ill take the pepsi challenge to my NY shit to your British shit anyday. But I AM considering moving ot the UK. That's why I was reading this.
 
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With an attitude like that stay in New York. Charlie is a fucking gentleman, show some respect. The heroin scene in te UK is in a state of flux and unstable. If you move there with that kind of attitude your going to learn a new word called bash. In all fairness I haven't read your post but the starving dopefiends of Euripe don't need some yank a-hole rubbing in who their getting quality and weight. You may or may not know this but they've been through hell. Charlie Clean is the last person you want to flame...this is from one yank to another...plus he's a good friend and been in the scene for a while so well respected around here. You can retract your statement after further reflection or then you are the cock sucking dick. Nationalities aside and all that BS his post are some of the best I've read on this BL. So at the least an apology to mr. Charlie clean is in order.

FYI the quality worls wide: BL is a good barameter and the Europeans have suffered since Novermber from the Great Drought... Plus I discovered from a discharged marine that we are getting inti the poppy burning business, so much for the hearts and minds campaign, fuckin hell..they burned acres. Unless you want to quit or have connections and know colombians or dominicans and can establish a line on #4 colombian dope that you are probably accostomed to, I suggest staying home.
 
With an attitude like that stay in New York. Charlie is a fucking gentleman, show some respect. The heroin scene in te UK is in a state of flux and unstable. If you move there with that kind of attitude your going to learn a new word called bash. In all fairness I haven't read your post but the starving dopefiends of Euripe don't need some yank a-hole rubbing in who their getting quality and weight. You may or may not know this but they've been through hell. Charlie Clean is the last person you want to flame...this is from one yank to another...plus he's a good friend and been in the scene for a while so well respected around here. You can retract your statement after further reflection or then you are the cock sucking dick. Nationalities aside and all that BS his post are some of the best I've read on this BL. So at the least an apology to mr. Charlie clean is in order.

FYI the quality worls wide: BL is a good barameter and the Europeans have suffered since Novermber from the Great Drought... Plus I discovered from a discharged marine that we are getting inti the poppy burning business, so much for the hearts and minds campaign, fuckin hell..they burned acres. Unless you want to quit or have connections and know colombians or dominicans and can establish a line on #4 colombian dope that you are probably accostomed to, I suggest staying home.

I think your taking it a little too seriously. He was sarcastic with me and all I did was say "your a dick" like I would to any of my pals that was sarcastic with me. Im not apoligiseing for calling it how I see it. Maybe Mr.Charlie should apoligise to ME for his sarcasim?

I don't want that I'm just saying...and theres no better way to prove how much of a gentleman you are by being completley disrespectful to me right? I have no issue with Mr.Charlie. He was sarcastic with me, I agknoledged it and was sarcastic back. No harm done. But you on the other hand are borderline snobish and take things way to serious.
 
Thanks for the internationalist defence, jspun.

Naw, you're backtracking, 8mg. Heroin isn't getting more potent worldwide. All over Europe, there's been a marked decline in recent times and in particular over the last year. What you mean is it's getting better in NYC. That's fairly common knowledge and I couldn't quite understand why you decided to post the news on EADD. Now you say it's because you're thinking of moving to London and presumably looking to make friends. Way to go, son, you clearly know how to handle the natives. If you've not been here before, I hope your charm helps your hunt for 'slammin' connections.
 
With an attitude like that stay in New York. Charlie is a fucking gentleman, show some respect. The heroin scene in te UK is in a state of flux and unstable. If you move there with that kind of attitude your going to learn a new word called bash. In all fairness I haven't read your post but the starving dopefiends of Euripe don't need some yank a-hole rubbing in who their getting quality and weight. You may or may not know this but they've been through hell. Charlie Clean is the last person you want to flame...this is from one yank to another...plus he's a good friend and been in the scene for a while so well respected around here. You can retract your statement after further reflection or then you are the cock sucking dick. Nationalities aside and all that BS his post are some of the best I've read on this BL. So at the least an apology to mr. Charlie clean is in order.

FYI the quality worls wide: BL is a good barameter and the Europeans have suffered since Novermber from the Great Drought... Plus I discovered from a discharged marine that we are getting inti the poppy burning business, so much for the hearts and minds campaign, fuckin hell..they burned acres. Unless you want to quit or have connections and know colombians or dominicans and can establish a line on #4 colombian dope that you are probably accostomed to, I suggest staying home.

im sure charlie clean can fight his own battles ;)
 
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