Regional Heroin Availability: v10

[Myshkin]

@sg not quite as simple as that as the snorting brings it on alot quicker and the residue then goes down the throat

No shit? I would never have known that... 8)

Still doesn't change the bioavailability, does it? Also, the drip is delayed so you're not getting the whole dose at once. Hence the fact it's a bit of a waste, all told.

You really do have to contest everything don't you? :D

 

[Evad]

I prefer snorthings them, with the instant release ones I take half orally and sniff the other half, best of both worlds imo, i'm all about instant gratificatiom
the stuff going down your throat cant be much slower than just swallowed anyway can it?

 

[Myshkin]

I prefer snorthings them, with the instant release ones I take half orally and sniff the other half, best of both worlds imo, i'm all about instant gratificatiom
the stuff going down your throat cant be much slower than just swallowed anyway can it?

But you don't sniff the whole thing do you?

And what's the reason for that?

I have nothing against oxy snorting - simply want to point out it's wasteful by comparison with swallowing. Nasal drip or no nasal drip. The stuff that gets absorbed by the mucous membranes is still far less bioavailable, so there's a loss no matter how much drips down yer throat.

 

[megawoof]

i understand the biovialabilty thing with oxy but have to say snorting and even banging oxy for me is the way to go deffo a better reaction for me rather than eating them

 

[Myshkin]

i understand the biovialabilty thing with oxy but have to say snorting and even banging oxy for me is the way to go deffo a better reaction for me rather than eating them

Good for you! We're not talking subjectively here though.

All I'm saying (take note please, blondie) is that snorting is the most wasteful ROA out of the ones we've discussed. Say for example you snorted 20mg.

Of that 20mg, let's say 15mg (arbitrary figure) is absorbed through the mucous membranes and 5mg drips through into the gut.

Of the 15mg that is absorbed by the mucous membranes in the nose, only 46-47% will not be wasted. The remaining 54% or so doesn't drip back through your throat - it has already been absorbed. Therefore it's wasted.

The other 5mg will be absorbed into your gut, sure. Peronally, I'd be lamenting the 54-or-so percent of the 15mg which was nasally absorbed.

So snorters - carry on snorting. Just remember you're wasting a little of your product, that's all.

 

[xmitch00ukx]

doing gear on foil tech wasteful to, as no matter how experenced u are u'll lose some, but as anything the way u do ur drug is a personnel prefence. after stopping IV for booting IV is wasteful to me, even though tech get more from it, but its over with quicker, and to me thats mentally wasteful. so it depends what u prefere as to whats wasteful

 

[BC007]

Hi all!

Anything decent that was in Ireland the last few months seems to be gone.
Only low-grade crap around now.
It's better than it was at Xmas but there's F**k all strength in it.

One of our guys had nice stuff in February & March but I found out that it was a fluke.
He got it off a guy who just got out of jail. He was locked up for 13 months.
It was stashed in an attic or somewhere since before the drought.

There's loads of gear around now but most of it is danced all over.
Loads of people are saying it's good but I don't get anything off it. It would hold you but that's about it.
Hopefully in the next few weeks some new batches will start to come in. "Fingers crossed"

I'm doing it for 15 years and I've never seen a drought like this before. I saw bad droughts before but only lasting for a few weeks.

Happy hunting all!!

 

[kkattastic]

All the best with your plan. :D
You don't think maybe you should taper down a bit further 1.6 is a fair jump ?

It sounds like you've made your mind up , and are mentally prepared , maybe you can give us an update in a while, would be intrested to see how things go 4 you.
Take care ,Brimz

I jumped off a higher dose than that but i then went on a 3 day ket bender so didn't feel a thing
stayed clean for a few months before i relapsed

 

[blondin]

sg has to point score on any thing i post, a little childish but i can take it. BA and time taken for a substance to take effect are a combination of factors that are quite straight forward - sure oral BA is higher but up the nose and it hits you in minutes - most of us 'junkies' take drugs for precisely that reason - we are not on the whole very patient.

 

[Myshkin]

doing gear on foil tech wasteful to, as no matter how experenced u are u'll lose some, but as anything the way u do ur drug is a personnel prefence. after stopping IV for booting IV is wasteful to me, even though tech get more from it, but its over with quicker, and to me thats mentally wasteful. so it depends what u prefere as to whats wasteful

Very, very true Mitch, and a good way of looking at it for any smokers considering IV.

 

[blondin]

doing gear on foil tech wasteful to, as no matter how experenced u are u'll lose some, but as anything the way u do ur drug is a personnel prefence. After stopping iv for booting iv is wasteful to me, even though tech get more from it, but its over with quicker, and to me thats mentally wasteful. So it depends what u prefere as to whats wasteful

+1 . When i lost all my veins it took me a week to ajust to smoking but the high does last longer but still miss the rush and the scummy taste at the back of my throat

 

[DavisK4high247]

Friends of mine it Italy and in The Netherlands report there being high purity #4 SEA white heroin , as well as #3 base from SWA being strong and plentiful. Someone needs to go to Italy or the Netherlands and swallow ballons of heroin and bring it to the UK, they would certainly make extreme profits..

 

[kkattastic]

Friends of mine it Italy and in The Netherlands report there being high purity #4 SEA white heroin , as well as #3 base from SWA being strong and plentiful. Someone needs to go to Italy or the Netherlands and swallow ballons of heroin and bring it to the UK, they would certainly make extreme profits..

I have just got a new,clean passport and a considering a short holiday in cambodia
enough of us chip in we could do ok out of this
??????????????

 

[DavisK4high247]

I have just got a new,clean passport and a considering a short holiday in cambodia
enough of us chip in we could do ok out of this
??????????????

Yes, Cambodia has become sort of a tourist place for drugs in Asia.Thailand is so strict on drug laws now, I will not go back there again, but Cambodia, unlike Thailand and some other SEA nations is very lenient on tourists and drugs. I imagine it brings them much needed money and weed, opium,and #4 white heroin hcl. are pretty easily obtained in Cambodia. The purity of the #4 varys in Cambodia, but if you get a decent connection and buy a pretty good amount, it is purer and cheaper. The average stuff there is cut, but is still purer than most street dope in the US for the most part and is very very cheap compared to the US and I imagine the UK. Bringing the heroin back into the UK would be your main problem, maybe mailing some back in several small amounts at a time to several different addresses would be a good idea, or swallowing ballons of heroin like Nigerians is another, more risky option, risky to the persons body that swallowed the ballons, in case they may burst. There is a way to swallow the ballons and smuggle that way that is safer than others, send me a message if you want to know more on how that is done, anyway if you just want to smoke opium,weed, or use heroin in Cambodia, then it should be a fun experience..

 

[thebigman]

Not too much has changed, still got the same two sources, heard some news about a third I used to get from a while back today from a mate, apparently shes doin .4 for 20 of decent (Which is probably average strength gear) picked up a teener for 70 today and it was probably the best I've had in a long while, still not much strength to it but got a good dunt half of it, wished I'd saved it and not given the other half to my g/f but such us life. It looked/tasted/ran like gear should and did the job pretty well, better than some of the other stuff i've been getting at 25 for .3's.
The quality has suddenly gone up on that also, so it's actually pretty decent but its defo got some odd bash in it, it seems to sizzle and melt when you fire it up and runs like crazy, burned my fingers with it a few times an its kinda like melted sugar/plastic, its not as strong as the stuff I got today but its ok, still not worth the price. Anyway,my days with heroin are well and truly numbered, i'm getting taken off my script this morning, down to 1.6mg subutex and I think I'm gonna jump off straight from there, with a healthy hand out of scripts from my doc to help with the rattle which I'm sure is gonna be very shitty indeed. I'm demanding some hypnotic benzos thats for certain. I still can't tell if i'm totally over the gear, I still use on occasion but know that most of the time its pointless and seemed to have almost learned my lesson, i'm gonna try flying solo and see how I go.

Hope things pick up for everyone and that you guys stay safe, hopefully you won't see me in this thread again for a long while, but time will tell.

i wouldnt be to hasty to get off your script by the sounds of it your not sure if your ready to stop using , you got a teenth the other night . if you do come off your script and keep on using , well you dont need me to tell you what will happen, and how long will you need to wait to get back on a script. i would only stop your script if you were 100% sure your not going to use again and i would think that would mean a good few months with out H at least, good luck

 

[charlie clean]

^^^^^^

Good advice, Warm Rushes.

But if you're determined and know what you're doing, good luck. Let us know how it went.

 

[strungout2010]

The fact that throughout my habit iv kept to smoking, is something I'm very proud of. Iv got mates with fucked veins, limbs, and blood (hep),poor cunts can't wear t shirts/shorts in the summer.
Makes a lot more sense to smoke. IMO.

 

[tillyisfast]

brimz

Here bud , start again yeah.
I found your post yesterday a tad out of arder n shortsighted n felt that you were havin a pop at me when u mentioned having a break as i was the last person in this thread 2 say that.

Dimlo - Is a Gypsy word for someone of limited inteligence it means a light that doesn't shine brightly hence the Dim part , i thought it was Dinlo as well but was corrected by a Traveller , Its one of those words that has kinda changed over the years but it ws originally Dimlo , i usually say Dinlo / Dimlo u get the jist.

When i first started posting on BL not even a year ago the last thing i wanted to do was offend like minded folk. But 4 whatever reason you went a bit Jonny Blaze.

I won't hold it against ya , so we'll start again yeah?

So you've been on the tackle for 17 years , around the same ammt. of time as me.
I had my 1st script (50ml injectable physeptone concerntrate amps) back in 97 i think not totaly sure but i'd been dabbling for a while , basiclly when the Criminal Justice Bill came in n fuked upmthe outdoor party scene 4 a while.

Are you on ascript ?
i didn;'t have injectables 4 long as the local agency got a new doc in and he switched everey1 to juice with catastrophic efects.

120 mile round trip 2 score thats some shit where are you roughly if u don't mind ?

Anyhow i hope that everythings good and welcome to BL ya Dimlo

Hi Brimz, yes am onna script 80ml a day, and valium but thats down to 5mg a day so av started buy ativan to top it up as they work much better for the anxieity m8, i take 4 2mg tabs a day. i av just got back from one my round trips and i knew what i was getting before i left but its the only bit thats got gear in it, its not great by pre drought standard but it works and is not full of wtf is that and this.theres people who would love to be able to get it but can"t. like i said before i WOULD travel to wherever if its proper. i"m near portsmouth and mitch knows me in case you wanted to know. how do we do pm"s on this site do you know?

I av also done loads of looking on the net reading gov reports and drug clinics reports and the only place not affected is, and wait for this i do av proof is???? are you ready??? here goes, SWEDEN can fucking belive that? you can get china white to hit or snort we all know its not smokeable and the afghangi brown fof smoking no shortage at all apperantly they go for 160 euro"s a gramm, well sweden is not like holland where your in the main city with the husslers etc, i would go tomoz but would"nt know where to look, apart from plot up somewhere and watch what happens and see if a likely person pops along and gently approuch them.

So unless someone is willing to do that or if someone can get good over here and wants to be saint and help out we opps soz most of us have to keep on trucking!! and no i"m not a lorry driver

 

[strungout2010]

@ tillyisfast

You need 50 post before you can PM bruv.
Pain in the arse iknow , but thems the rules.
Welcome to bluelight btw.

 

[ructions]

You should read 'Queer' By WBS it sort of follows on from Junkie. I have a CD of Him reading Junkie - its fucking acers he has such a good voice. Did another strip of fent last night (1 Left) it is the bollox. Still got 4 oxy's sitting there but while there is good gear about they will be a treat for another time - I only ever snort them or fix 'em never actually swallowed them - Brimz you ever crushed and eaten?

In Dublin we only have two choices when it comes to getting off heroin, we can either go on a methadone maintenance program or we can go cold turkey.......

I have always been curious about oxy's, i have asked about them before on B.L. but i'm still not 100% sure what exactly they are?! We don't seem to get them much over here, i have never come across them, although i have have heard mates say that they have got them the odd time. But as far as i know Doctors in Ireland don't prescribe Oxy at all!

So whats the story with them? Are they like Methadone? Is Oxy a tablet that does the same thing as methadone? Is oxy stronger or weaker then methadone? Can you get a buzz off oxy? What exactly does a doctor prescribe Oxy for?

I wonder why we can't get prescribed oxy in Ireland? Although Ireland sometime feels like its stuck back in the dark ages, this is a total Nanny State!