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have they said the deaths were OD's for sure ?
could be contaminated shit maybe
could be contaminated shit maybe
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Bluelighter
Be careful, Smackcraft, Fentanyl is not China White.
It does have its own buzz but when buffed out and sold as smack, as seems to have happened in Aberdeen, you've no idea how much you're taking.
It does have its own buzz but when buffed out and sold as smack, as seems to have happened in Aberdeen, you've no idea how much you're taking.
Beak
Bluelighter
Another similar death in fraserburgh
But it does not seem to be being reported in press,
kkattastic
Bluelighter
When i first started smoking gear it always made me really sick, this went on for months (yet i still went back for more every time!!) I hated been sick but i loved the buzz!!
So one night i got sick of spending the whole time getting sick so i drank some meth instead of smoking gear, i'm not sure how much, but around 40mls, i wasn't hooked to gear or meth at the time.
Anyway i ended up out of my head, it was very similar to the buzz what i got off the gear without the puking!! The mad thing was that i was out of my head for over 24 hours! I went asleep about 8 hours after taking it, & when i woke up i was still out of my head. It was a good buzz, but i hadn't expected it to last for so long!! BUT looking back it was a stupid thing to do, i know at least two people who died from taking a small amount of meth coz they had no tolerance to it!!
I take 60mls every day now, & all it does is make me feel well enough to get through the day! Griffin because you are prescribed Meth it would probably be ok to take a little bit extra, but to anyone reading this who isn't prescribed Meth & who might be thinking that they'd like to try it out, well just DON'T! Meth is a killer, you will just go asleep & never wake up!!
Most people on BL already know how dangerous just how dangerous Meth is, but outside BL people can be so ignorant about it. A girl i know was talking about gear & Meth, she doesn't use, but she was saying that many of her friends & family do. She doesn't now that i use, so she was talking away telling me all about gear & Meth, while i just listened & acted like i knew little about it. She said to me that Meth years ago was very dangerous, but now-a-days they have taken the sugar out so its much safer??? She reckons that you would have to drink over 1000mls before it gets dangerous???So i told her that i did actually know a bit about Meth & that as little as 40mls could kill someone stone dead, but she just laughed at me & said what would i know, she went on & on about how much she knew about drugs!! But how could she think that taking sugar out of Meth would stop it being dangerous???
I have studied suicide methods quite intensely for several years-would rather not go into why
LD50 is a system that shows the does that it takes to kill(based on rat studies)
if you google LD50 for oral methadone,you will find that the general(it does vary) fatal dose is 30mg/kg
a friend of mine once tried to kill herself with methadone-she had no tolerance and was not an opiate user
she drank 300ml,felt ill and went to sleep-on waking she had numbness in many parts of her body and felt generally unwell-but no death
she was a young woman and slightly built
i would love it if china white was about scotland the now but that article said it was fentanyl dont know much about that stuff
about the black with meth in it dont know but i was reading about the black in amsterdam being mixed with opium more and more in bigger amounts
back to the smack most of the stuf about here the now is shit im told .was getting better for a couple of weeks but seems to have went back down hill . i can get right good stuff from one guy in weight but because of pressure from social work i need to give 3 samples a week(clean) i cant even buy it. thank fuck for bank holidays
Beak
Bluelighter
Aye,opiate black is quite a nice smoke,can make you a bit gassy ,twichy stomache,kiff used to do the same to me,
Been donkeys since I had any tho
Aye,opiate black is quite a nice smoke,can make you a bit gassy ,twichy stomache,kiff used to do the same to me,
Been donkeys since I had any tho
used to love my hash esp black but cant stand the stuff anymore started taking epileptic fits with it not good . just stick to the H now and i cant even get to use that interfearing wankers taken my only way of unwinding at the weekend, thats what i get for suppling the whole town , acording to the police,
GinaWestYorks
Bluelighter
I've not been on here since about December, when the drought was really bad
Just wondering how other ppl are gettin on, whether the quality of gear has improved elsewhere
Its definitely better here and there has been some nice stuff about but its still a bit hit n miss.
This droughts done me a favour coz before i wouldnt of gone 1day without gear but since xmas iv bin stickin to my meths a lot more.
Still love a good toot though!
Just wondering how other ppl are gettin on, whether the quality of gear has improved elsewhere
Its definitely better here and there has been some nice stuff about but its still a bit hit n miss.
This droughts done me a favour coz before i wouldnt of gone 1day without gear but since xmas iv bin stickin to my meths a lot more.
Still love a good toot though!
sounds a bit like the stuff i can get in weight , its not a thick black trail but a few thin lines, its good .
strungout2010
Bluelighter
The premo gear I'm getin is light grey , it's still quite dear £150 on a Henry but is shit hot & defo worth it. Leaves a lovely dark nOn sticky beetle.
All this talk of fent & china. Proper c/w can't be smoked as far as I know , tried it in Oz & and it just fizzled. Had to sniff it.
Please correct if I'm wrong.
All this talk of fent & china. Proper c/w can't be smoked as far as I know , tried it in Oz & and it just fizzled. Had to sniff it.
Please correct if I'm wrong.
your right it cant only heroin number 3 can once its purified into number 4 it cant be smoked only injected or sniffed
Hey all. Heed CC's warning. The drought would actually make it profitable to obtain Fentanyl or synthesize it (don't know how feasible that would be). But it is very potent- 0.1 mg roughly eaqual to 10 mg morphine or 3-5 of diamorph.
Anyway, they had a rash of ODs in NYC in the 70s, I think, back when it contained more than 1/2 the US heroin addicts. The heroin on the streets back the average 2-3%- you guys think you had it bad- everyone fixed because snorting it wasn't an option with such cut dope. This was the case when the la cosa nostra (the Italians) superseded the Jewish mombsters as drug dealers in the 50s. The Jews always believed in providing a good product- thats an interesting story. They controlled the heroin trade until the end of the French connection were they brought Turkish opium, refined it in Southern France by Corsican gangs and moved it to NYC. During the 50s, people from the USA would go to Cuba on Holliday and normal square people would do coke, not really knowing what it was and not having access to it back home (NYC had a small scene that was dilute and used IV).
So for a few decades the dope was shit and people just adjusted by using IV. But at one point, there was a rash of OD's. Authorities couldn't explain it. It was found that people were ODing from the cut- the symptoms were different- foaming at the mouth, anaphylactoid type reactions, ect... I think they called the chemical "substance X" or something.
As for Methadone, I have heard somebody dying from buying juice on the street. At my old clinic in San Francisco it was rummored that someone without a habit bought someones takehomes on the street- he took 40-60 mg it was rummored, but the guy was a crack head and most importantly a known drunk.
A point of interest- methadone in the US comes from several manufactures, methadose being the most popular- a pink syrup. Oldtimers on the clinic would say the methadone diskets were more effective- from experience in hospitals were they used what was on hand. I always thought that was placebo. But once I was curtesy dosing at another clinic were they only offered wafers and I was noding 1/2 an hour later. Anyway- 7 years ago I courtesy dosed at a clinic in San Francisco that offered you a choice of different formulations. This particular clinic was known for being innovative and humane. But anyway there is actually a phenomena documented were one companies formulation is more effective for some than anothers- the reason for this isn't fully understood and counterintutive.
A theory for the China White or whatever could be that other producing regions (Colombia, Burma) ar filling the vacuum- but I'm scared to speculate.
A caveat with China white. A chem student once tried to make synthetic meperidine. It was contaminated with MPPP. He developed instant parkinsons disease. Another underground chemist developed a-methy fentanyl. I think that either caused overdoses, or was also contaminated with MPPP or both. At anyrate, they found the guy because this was pre analogue act and they had to do a fire inspection to get into his house- the drug wasn't illegal. They took samples, scheduled this compound, and that and MDMA were the reason the analogue act was passed. I remember the parkisons cases because there was an epidemic among my hometown of San Jose of instant parkisons- permanent parkinsons among younger individuals without risk factors. Alot of the Link was uncovered at Santa Clara Valley Medical Center circa 1984 or 85, I think.
Anyway, they had a rash of ODs in NYC in the 70s, I think, back when it contained more than 1/2 the US heroin addicts. The heroin on the streets back the average 2-3%- you guys think you had it bad- everyone fixed because snorting it wasn't an option with such cut dope. This was the case when the la cosa nostra (the Italians) superseded the Jewish mombsters as drug dealers in the 50s. The Jews always believed in providing a good product- thats an interesting story. They controlled the heroin trade until the end of the French connection were they brought Turkish opium, refined it in Southern France by Corsican gangs and moved it to NYC. During the 50s, people from the USA would go to Cuba on Holliday and normal square people would do coke, not really knowing what it was and not having access to it back home (NYC had a small scene that was dilute and used IV).
So for a few decades the dope was shit and people just adjusted by using IV. But at one point, there was a rash of OD's. Authorities couldn't explain it. It was found that people were ODing from the cut- the symptoms were different- foaming at the mouth, anaphylactoid type reactions, ect... I think they called the chemical "substance X" or something.
As for Methadone, I have heard somebody dying from buying juice on the street. At my old clinic in San Francisco it was rummored that someone without a habit bought someones takehomes on the street- he took 40-60 mg it was rummored, but the guy was a crack head and most importantly a known drunk.
A point of interest- methadone in the US comes from several manufactures, methadose being the most popular- a pink syrup. Oldtimers on the clinic would say the methadone diskets were more effective- from experience in hospitals were they used what was on hand. I always thought that was placebo. But once I was curtesy dosing at another clinic were they only offered wafers and I was noding 1/2 an hour later. Anyway- 7 years ago I courtesy dosed at a clinic in San Francisco that offered you a choice of different formulations. This particular clinic was known for being innovative and humane. But anyway there is actually a phenomena documented were one companies formulation is more effective for some than anothers- the reason for this isn't fully understood and counterintutive.
A theory for the China White or whatever could be that other producing regions (Colombia, Burma) ar filling the vacuum- but I'm scared to speculate.
A caveat with China white. A chem student once tried to make synthetic meperidine. It was contaminated with MPPP. He developed instant parkinsons disease. Another underground chemist developed a-methy fentanyl. I think that either caused overdoses, or was also contaminated with MPPP or both. At anyrate, they found the guy because this was pre analogue act and they had to do a fire inspection to get into his house- the drug wasn't illegal. They took samples, scheduled this compound, and that and MDMA were the reason the analogue act was passed. I remember the parkisons cases because there was an epidemic among my hometown of San Jose of instant parkisons- permanent parkinsons among younger individuals without risk factors. Alot of the Link was uncovered at Santa Clara Valley Medical Center circa 1984 or 85, I think.
There was anither synthetic heroin made 25y ago or so that gave you really bad parkindons so bad that the person was paralysed - however there was a cure BUT what that did was give you back use of your limbs but also came with terrfying hallucinations....talk about rock n and hard place !!
gomorrah
Bluelighter
Great post Jspun, that is insane about the analogue act relative to compound experimentation. I also never knew MPPP caused instant Parkinson's. I also don't know a lot about Parkinson's.
Hey Griffin are you out there?! My bf heard that there was raid in Limerick were a load of heroin was found?! Did you hear anything about it?
I wonder what the story is? Is it real heroin that has been found? Or is it bash? Have you heard anything about it?!
Did you hear anything about it?I wonder what the story is? Is it real heroin that has been found? Or is it bash? Have you heard anything about it?!
It looks like Heroin has been found in Limerick, i'd love to know if its proper gear though, coz this country is flooded with low grade crap! There is no shortage of rubbish over here!!
http://www.limericknewswire.com/201...h-e700000-recovered-in-ennis-road-drugs-raid/
What happens if your caught with something like a 5% heroin cut? Would you be in less trouble then if you were caught with proper strong gear? Or is it all the same as far as the garda are concerned?
http://www.limericknewswire.com/201...h-e700000-recovered-in-ennis-road-drugs-raid/
What happens if your caught with something like a 5% heroin cut? Would you be in less trouble then if you were caught with proper strong gear? Or is it all the same as far as the garda are concerned?
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