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Regional Heroin Availability: v10

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It looks like Heroin has been found in Limerick, i'd love to know if its proper gear though, coz this country is flooded with low grade crap! There is no shortage of rubbish over here!!

http://www.limericknewswire.com/201...h-e700000-recovered-in-ennis-road-drugs-raid/

What happens if your caught with something like a 5% heroin cut? Would you be in less trouble then if you were caught with proper strong gear? Or is it all the same as far as the garda are concerned?
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it will be just the same no matter what the % you are still passing it off as heroin. it shouldnt be but it is:\
 
blondin said:
...So has anyone else had the gear i got? very light grey, dark beetle that leaves a feint black trail, very strong ,good build up in the tooter. I know a fair bit is in E London is it anywhere else?
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Yeahi had it last week , after the rock hard brown stuff.
Both were decent though te grey stuff is by far the best kit i have had for a long time.
I don't live far from Evad different city mind but not far , and i have been able to get decent gear 4 a while now allbeit from one person.
A person i've known well over 20 years that doesn't even touch Gear.
The downside to all this nodding and smoking decent h is a touch of a physicall habit creaping back.
Cos of this i'm a give it a rest 4 a wee while.
 
thebigman said:
it will be just the same no matter what the % you are still passing it off as heroin. it shouldnt be but it is:\
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Yeah i guessed that would be the case! I wonder what would have happened if you had got caught with the stuff that was going around last January, the stuff that was 0% heroin? I suppose it depends on what exactly is in it.........
 
technically you can sell anything, claim it is heroin, and get done for dealing class A's...

in the UK anyway
 
@brimz same as thatbmate -but its hard after 6 months of only being able to buy bags now i can get weight and its about the best gear ive had or at least as good addewd to that the fact ive got a few quid is going to make it damnnear immpossible not to have a few weeks run a henry at a time (he says as a big dollop lands on the foil) :)
 
@Blondin -careful now mate she's so seductive as she wraps those loving arms around you ! All still good here in WS same stuff for a while now , sounds mad but could do with a change, you know when you get used to the same stuff. God i aint complainin or fuck all especially as some folks cant get, just wouldn mind some of that grey slate thats all.
 
@LOuie wat u gettting mate? this grey stuff is the D;s B;s - even though ive beeen on it since friday i still only pit about .2 on the kimmy and im nodding in n out now trying to watch tv is pointless kep missing great chunks of what evers on lol - its funny 30 ys ago the firstt time i got a nod i was watchinh Minder on the box and its still my favorite place to be when im wrapping my arms around Morpheus - typing takes sooooo long when yuor high !
 
I was searching the net & i came across this, it says that in the early stages of the drought police tested Heroin that was as low as 13%

http://inef.ie/?p=4863

So i have a question, what % heroin would we normally get? What would be considered good gear? The way i know if gear is good or not is by how it looks, how it tastes, & most importantly from the buzz i get off it, but i'd never be able to guess what % it is.

Over the years since i have been using i have heard different people say different things about the purity of the heroin in Dublin, one guy i know swears that most heroin in Dublin has been around 13% pure for many years & he reckons that if it was any stronger then many people would O.D.

Another girl i know says that it is always around 40% & someone else i know says good gear should be around 80% pure. So which is it.........

I know it varies a lot from one dealer to the next, but what would be considered the real % of good gear while still being safe ?

I know that things have been turned upside down in the heroin world since the start of this drought last November, & if strong gear was to hit the streets all of a sudden then it would be very dangerous, but at a normal time with no drought & a normal opiate tolerances, what % would the average good heroin be? What should we expect? :?

Its a pity we didn't have a way of testing the % of our gear ourselves...........
 
betweeen 35-45 was/is normal for what is considered good gear - use to get 70% bitd but those days are long gone - every now and again you will get a stronger one but not froma dealer.
I had a few kits which would tell within 5% what the stength was but there was a long running thread where no one believed me -any way fwiw i never had anything over 50 with them.My mate in holland tests his every now and agian its consistently 30%
 
blondin said:
betweeen 35-45 was/is normal for what is considered good gear - use to get 70% bitd but those days are long gone - every now and again you will get a stronger one but not froma dealer.
I had a few kits which would tell within 5% what the stength was but there was a long running thread where no one believed me -any way fwiw i never had anything over 50 with them.My mate in holland tests his every now and agian its consistently 30%
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Cool thanx! Yeah i suppose 35-45 sounds right! As i said i'd just normally judge it by the buzz. But yeah heroin seems to have gone down & down in quality over the last 4 years.

I used to think that i was just me, that i didn't find it as strong coz i had built up such a tolerance over the years, & then i'd come across some good strong gear & i'd realize that its the quality varies a LOT!!

Tolerance does make it difficult to judge sometimes, but the gear really does seem much weaker over the last few years, which means you keep having to buy more each time.....
 
hi waves at everyone

still shite in the south, no heroin since least feb-which lasted about 1 week-
southampton.pompey and bounemouth are dry and have been since october just shite going around
wud go as far to say fake gear

good link , altough prob been posted before. has a table about europe and the drought. sweden is the place to be.

http://www.idpc.net/sites/default/files/library/IDPC-briefing-paper-heroin-draught.pdf


oct-may how much longer????????

and gear prob about 30-40%
i used tio get it straight from pakistan via parcel shitted out. and always stronger then what got else wear. was getting it in the drought to.altough last time was feb as person was caught with 18 oz in his belly reckon that gear was 50% easy. but every thing comes to a end even this drought one day every few weeks i cud rely on decent non fiddled with gear. but now havent had gear since feb. and very little since oct
 
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Hi peeps hope all is well for ya all I have not posted in a while be so lucky my mate got a nice bit from the heroin capital of england and its strong as anything I've had in years so I have bought a nice pile its that good I gouched out and woke up with my boss ranting down the phone had to blag him I fainted so I had 4 days on the sick smashed only prob getting good gear is being able to keep getting it coz anything weaker ya feel is shit respect peeps laters
 
louie the 16th said:
@Blondin -careful now mate she's so seductive as she wraps those loving arms around you ! All still good here in WS same stuff for a while now , sounds mad but could do with a change, you know when you get used to the same stuff. God i aint complainin or fuck all especially as some folks cant get, just wouldn mind some of that grey slate thats all.
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hi Louie glad ya getting decent have you heard from our north east soldier respect d
 
Hey HMitch: This link was posted a while back by Pinky ,I believe, (Pink Papaver), if your new to this thread. I'm the seppo that tortures people with his arm chair predictions. But the conclusions substatiated one of my conclusions- and that was that the UK was working with Turkey and that was disrupting the networks. I wrote in a psot way back for people to write their MP to put presssure on the government through the EU parliament not to allow the Turks in the EU. See, in Turkey, like mexico, corruption is systemic. The UK probably came to the Turks with alot of pounds and promisses of being let in the EU in exchange of cracking down on decades of corruption.

The healthy supply in Sweden is puzzuling but makes sense when you see that the demand is low. My question would be how is the scene in nearby Norway. Oslo has a thriving scene per Nat Geo.

What they didn't mention was that part of the decrease of opium/heroin getting through the Northern boarder was the Russian National Border Patrol being posted in Tjakistan. Not the ethnic Russians left over from Soviet rule but the actual Russian Boarder Patrol. They did this apparently with Tajick approval and a UNODCP program payys them 10 times the average price of a Russian border patrol to dissuade corruption.

One thing I don't understand is why the flood in Pakistan had an effect. I thought most of the European Bound gear goes through Iran were roughly 1/2 is intercepted in a typical year or stays behing (lots of dope fiends in repressive Iran). Is there an alternate smuggling route out of Karachi on freighter ships?

Also they didn't mention the taking down of the Kosovo gang- an article I included way back- they ran dope through europe for years- were probably assosciated with Turkish players.

Now as for the Balakan Route, A Greek, who lived for some time in South Africa- doesn't use himself but says that he knows people who use and that there is a healthy supply- see people knodding out in the bad parts of town and its sold in front of supermarkets by Afghans and Pakis. The only way this would make sense is because Greece like Sweden doesn't have much demand for the product- it is on the low end of anual prevalence studies- coke is supposedly the big thing. Tried to get info by watching Greek TV when visiting my parents but A.) they don't like me bringing up the subject of drugs given my past history, and B.) Greece has so many other problems (dumping the Euro, new rounds of austerity measures, teetering on the brink of fasiscm or narch-communist revolt), that the heroin situ isn't knews any more. But anyway, given the classic enmity between the Greeks and Turks, the Balkan route might go through Bulgaria when it enters the EU and the Hellenic markets might be suppiled by another organization.

Anyway, before WWII, in the US the dope was really good. If you read addicts who survived they go into it. Then WWII decimated the heroin trade, traditional routes were disrupted and dope fiends would usually go to doctors "crockers"= this is documeted in William Burghows book junky. The US encouraged mexican farmers to grow opium for the war, and they continued to do that after the war was over illigally but they weren't saophisticated enough to make anything better than tar to this day (which now a days aint bad). But as the 50s resumed the dope remained shit like 2-10% averaging 3-4%. People in time adapted (it wasn't hard after a decade of war and disrupted supplies) and most people just took up slaming dope. It wasn't until the last 20 or so years that smoking dope or snorting it were the ROA of choice among US addicts.

My recomendation for resuming supplies is get her majesty's troops out of Afghanistan- we should be focusing on Pakistan from a security standpoint. Don't let your MPs make dela with Turkey- they are increasingly becoming radicalized, aligned with Iran, less pounds- more corruption.

Ulitmately, I will repeat, legalization, decriminalization, or medicalization won/t cause the need to deal with these unsavory, expensive regiemes, Its like the same principle as finding new sources. alternatives to petroleum for political reasons.

So can someone answer=- what does flooding in Pakistan have to do with the supply of gear in Europe?
 
jspun said:
Hey HMitch: This link was posted a while back by Pinky ,I believe, (Pink Papaver), if your new to this thread. I'm the seppo that tortures people with his arm chair predictions. But the conclusions substatiated one of my conclusions- and that was that the UK was working with Turkey and that was disrupting the networks. I wrote in a psot way back for people to write their MP to put presssure on the government through the EU parliament not to allow the Turks in the EU. See, in Turkey, like mexico, corruption is systemic. The UK probably came to the Turks with alot of pounds and promisses of being let in the EU in exchange of cracking down on decades of corruption.

The healthy supply in Sweden is puzzuling but makes sense when you see that the demand is low. My question would be how is the scene in nearby Norway. Oslo has a thriving scene per Nat Geo.

What they didn't mention was that part of the decrease of opium/heroin getting through the Northern boarder was the Russian National Border Patrol being posted in Tjakistan. Not the ethnic Russians left over from Soviet rule but the actual Russian Boarder Patrol. They did this apparently with Tajick approval and a UNODCP program payys them 10 times the average price of a Russian border patrol to dissuade corruption.

One thing I don't understand is why the flood in Pakistan had an effect. I thought most of the European Bound gear goes through Iran were roughly 1/2 is intercepted in a typical year or stays behing (lots of dope fiends in repressive Iran). Is there an alternate smuggling route out of Karachi on freighter ships?

Also they didn't mention the taking down of the Kosovo gang- an article I included way back- they ran dope through europe for years- were probably assosciated with Turkish players.

Now as for the Balakan Route, A Greek, who lived for some time in South Africa- doesn't use himself but says that he knows people who use and that there is a healthy supply- see people knodding out in the bad parts of town and its sold in front of supermarkets by Afghans and Pakis. The only way this would make sense is because Greece like Sweden doesn't have much demand for the product- it is on the low end of anual prevalence studies- coke is supposedly the big thing. Tried to get info by watching Greek TV when visiting my parents but A.) they don't like me bringing up the subject of drugs given my past history, and B.) Greece has so many other problems (dumping the Euro, new rounds of austerity measures, teetering on the brink of fasiscm or narch-communist revolt), that the heroin situ isn't knews any more. But anyway, given the classic enmity between the Greeks and Turks, the Balkan route might go through Bulgaria when it enters the EU and the Hellenic markets might be suppiled by another organization.

Anyway, before WWII, in the US the dope was really good. If you read addicts who survived they go into it. Then WWII decimated the heroin trade, traditional routes were disrupted and dope fiends would usually go to doctors "crockers"= this is documeted in William Burghows book junky. The US encouraged mexican farmers to grow opium for the war, and they continued to do that after the war was over illigally but they weren't saophisticated enough to make anything better than tar to this day (which now a days aint bad). But as the 50s resumed the dope remained shit like 2-10% averaging 3-4%. People in time adapted (it wasn't hard after a decade of war and disrupted supplies) and most people just took up slaming dope. It wasn't until the last 20 or so years that smoking dope or snorting it were the ROA of choice among US addicts.

My recomendation for resuming supplies is get her majesty's troops out of Afghanistan- we should be focusing on Pakistan from a security standpoint. Don't let your MPs make dela with Turkey- they are increasingly becoming radicalized, aligned with Iran, less pounds- more corruption.

Ulitmately, I will repeat, legalization, decriminalization, or medicalization won/t cause the need to deal with these unsavory, expensive regiemes, Its like the same principle as finding new sources. alternatives to petroleum for political reasons.

So can someone answer=- what does flooding in Pakistan have to do with the supply of gear in Europe?
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Gear in Greece? rare as hens teeth about the hardest place to score that Ive beeen to and I thought that it was common knowledge.

Re floods - it maybe that the processing was being done there , the bigger players move around for obvious reasons.

Here's a thought..... UK government heavily in debt, sudden drugs drought, drugs start to reappear at higher prices - remember were talking about billions of £££ every year - I am a conspiracy fan if you dig deep you can find alot of interesting stuff.....:)
 
if there is gear as it appears there is in alot of uk places how come no one in south can score anywhere? and its not like peeps havent contacts but bounemouth southampton and portsmouth havent seen any!!!! heroin in months? no weight no bags. nothing? infact worse now then ever before since drought started


and no im not new here, just got fed up hearing same crap repeated over and over. and hearing eagle landing only to be bullshit landing. but seems alot of places alive and kicking
 
blondin said:
Gear in Greece? rare as hens teeth about the hardest place to score that Ive beeen to and I thought that it was common knowledge.

Re floods - it maybe that the processing was being done there , the bigger players move around for obvious reasons.

Here's a thought..... UK government heavily in debt, sudden drugs drought, drugs start to reappear at higher prices - remember were talking about billions of £££ every year - I am a conspiracy fan if you dig deep you can find alot of interesting stuff.....:)
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imo thats what the floods had to do with the drought plus they also grow and produce heroin in packistan to.
i think most governments have there hand in drugs somewhere its too big and makes too much money for them not to . the cia defo does the mi5 or mi6 the probability is very high . they want to decriminilise it but think it would cause to much upset and they would be booted out so are to scared to do that but they also know there is too much money involved for them not to have thier hand init, so they use the secret service and keep it hush hush. imo:\
 
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