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Regaining the magic of speed

blase deviant

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Okay, I'm really sorry to shit up the advanced drug forum with stuff like this, but is it possible to regain the magic? I haven't used for close to a year, but speed pretty much sucks unless I have benzos, and then it's "just alright".

Even though I'm not addicted to opiates, and not addicted to benzos (although I use moderately/am mildly habituated, I have tapered down), is it possible they changed my brain permanently to some extent to make speed feel worse?

I just get 'odd feelings', pins and needles, disorientation, overheating, jumpiness/paranoia. No good feelings like I used to, even back when I used them without benzos (which is what I did 99% of the time).

:(

I tried magnesium, l-tyrosine. Both help a little bit, but it's still nowhere close. It's like a really short high and a really long comedown, whereas the good feeling/high part used to be longer than the comedown (which wasn't as bad).
 
^ Yeah. "Go smoke some crack, and the magic comes back" as my grandma used to say...
 
1. I ran out of K and can't get anymore for awhile.

2. You mean take a tiny dose with the speed? How tiny? And why is K + speed better than DXM? The K would wear off sooner, wouldn't it?
 
personal, i think k is really a drug that has to be done by itself to be "effective". mixing k and speed isn't good and will lead nowhere.
 
hey, but if speed isn't working for you anymore, man, jus quit. i noticed that a drug will jus stop working for you sometimes at somepoint and that's jus life telling you to put it down.
 
I have heard of some messed up things happening to people who were sold amphetamine/ketamine cocktail as speed. Something like the kid went wading through a river at 4 in the morning to escape from police who only ever existed as part of his imagination. But in terms of safety I dont think ket-amfetamine is a dangerous combo than anything else
 
Jamshyd said:
...The idea was to use the Ketamine sans amphetamine for a while in order to lower the amphetamine tolerance ;).

Done a fair amount of that. :)

Hope to do again.

Haven't tried speed since doing K, but I dunno how'd it change it? Hey, worth a try though...

I did read somewhere in PD that K causes certain genes in the brain to be read? I wonder if it causes changes/if these genes are genes that aren't really used often or, I dunno. I don't know much about genetics.
 
So what about taking NMDA antagonists, ketamine, DXM, magnesium, l-theanine with speed?

I have l-theanine and DXM, and tried to get in the habit of always taking a little DXM (30-50mg or so) with dexedrine although i just.. kinda forget.
 
Also, could it have been me being on an SNRI? People on OD said that they were on Effexor (SSNRI), or Wellbutrin and still liked speed, but could it have been different for me?

I dunno, I'm probably gonna try it again soon. Asking questions of you guys doesn't really do much, and doing it is the only way to find out. I just don't look forward to the experience I'm gonna get if I'm wrong.
 
Okay wow, it probably was the SNRI.

I just took 50mg dexedrine and don't really feel crap. Well, maybe a bit.

They are Barr Labs spansules though, and I heard spansules suck, and barr sucks doubly... so I dunno.

EDIT: Only stupid fools redose too early. I was wrong. I thought 30-40 min. on an empty stomach was enough. But I'll quit posting before I turn this into even more of a Basic Drugs thread than it already was.
 
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^ It reduces the tolerence IIRC.

Yaestrom: DXM is dangerous to combine with amphetamine it leads to high blood pressure (I believe?) perhaps this is only with high recreational doses?
 
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