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Benzos Recommended pharms for acute insomnia and anxiety

I wouldn't switch to alprazolam from clonazepam completely. I think high dose diazepam could help, but it would have to be HIGH dose, because you've been taking 1 mg to 3 mg clonazepam and that is quite potent a benzo with quite a half-life too. Mixing strong barbs even at hypnotic doses with higher doses of benzos sounds dangerous to me, but I don't know how dangerous, probably very, very risky.

I'd probably ask for an increase in the k-pin script, along with a triazolam script as needed. For bad nights I would take the triazolam along with promethazine if is easily available, that or diphenhydramine. I know you say promethazine has never worked, but throw triazolam into the mix and it might be a success, that and maybe ONE drink OR 50 mg butalbital. Just some thoughts. That would have me asleep fast. That is a sort of as needed cocktail though, and that is why I'd request my k-pin script to be upped at bedtime.
 
Yeah, I think clonazepam is pretty effective, I just need a higher dose. I used to take promethazine to potentiate benzos barbs and opiates. It didn't add anything, not even sedation to either class.
The alprazolam would be taken during the day/late afternoon for anxiety and to synergize with the clonazepam. Doctor said that diazepam might not work too well since I have tolerence and it's not very potent. 60-80 mg of diazepam never made me tired, even when I had negligable benzo tolerence.
This is quite a conundrum isn't it?
 
Alprazolam isn't a terrible idea, but I wouldn't add another benzo for everyday use. If you feel the need for more anxiety relief, have the k-pin dose increased a bit, and maybe use a smaller dose of alprazolam as needed for anxiety, and a higher one as needed for sleep. But why even play with alprazolam for sleep, when triazolam would be better for at least induction of sleep.
 
Bc triazolam really isn't that effective I've taken up to 1-2 mg without getting tired. I am naturally hard headed to benzos. The alprazolam would be for anxiety at low dose, and one to potentiate/symergize with my clonazepam and lamictal. I can't take the trazadone anymore. It has far too many negative effects to be worth taking..
My psych said a higher dose of kpin and alprazolam or diazepam would be the next thing I try. I do t wanna blow my tolerence out of the water, bc the withdrawl is quite dangerous. I could take 3 mg of k-pin and drink half a fifth of tanqueray without getting sleepy. Just makes me slighty more drunk.
I'm afraid or my heart rate/cardiovascular system being depressed with such high doses of sedatives/hypnotics even though they don't relieve my insomnia.
 
Temazepam is the most commonly prescribed benzo for sleep, but I could take upto 90-120 mg along with 2 mg of kpins and still be unable to sleep.
I've got a feeling part of the problem is my chronic pain, but you guys haven't been too keen on the opiate/opiod idea.
 
Have you guys heard of chronic insomnia this bad? My mom has been trying to cope with itfor 35 years and still strugles with her insomnia. Not looking forward to no sleep for the rest of my life.
 
entheo said:
I am willing, but I have reason to not dabble in atypical antipsychotics anymore than I have to, as I have never had positive results from them. I've tried diazepam but only in 40-60 mg doses. Gets me kinda stupporee but not tired. I'm not looking for euphoria; just sleep and anxiolytif effects.
I've never tried nitrazepam before; I'm no familiar with it at all.
Why is it wrong of me to not want to tranquilizer myself into a coma; when I could possibly rind somehig to help me rest and get good REM sleep?
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40-60 mg doses of diazepam is not a little bit. The yellow ones, the common dose, is just five mg, and the blue ones are 10 mg. I hope you understand that anxiolytics are anxiety-producing after a very short period of time. Sleeping pills promote sleeplessness after just a few days to a few weeks. They also promote depression.

ADD medications are stimulants, and they promote sleeplessness.

Seroquel is a great sleep inducer for me, and if you take them for awhile, you adjust to them and don't spend a lot of time sleeping. Lamictal had the same beneficial effect for me without the 12 hours of sleep that Seroquel brings initially.

I'm with others here; I think you are deluding yourself about what you're looking for, and your choices are making your situation worse. If you stop all of it for a few months, your normal sleep should return. And then you stay off all of it.
 
^ you don't understand, I feel like I am dying from exhaustion. I only take my adderal occasionally and always early in the morning.
Please don't insult me, saying I am deluded. I have tapered and complete withdrawn many times in order to reduce tolerence and rebound insomnia. I have had a gerastic amount of improvement on my anxiety level. I don't need a euphoriant, just an extremely strong, near coma dose of a hynotic to even get 4 hours of sleep. This is becoming hazardous to my physical health.
Chronic pain, combined with 2 hours of interupted sleep for a couple years is not a joke. You do not understand my situation, if I stop taking my medication I will never sleep. Imagine going weeks at a time with no sleep, constant pain, and a physically demanding job. It would not be in my best interest to take months off from sleeping.
As I said before, I hate seroquil, and have no intention of ever using it again. Too many side effects and no benefits what so ever.
 
it works great.. there is the answer you have been seeking for these past few days declining everyones opinions and substituting with your own..

/thread?
 
entheo said:
^ you don't understand, I feel like I am dying from exhaustion. I only take my adderal occasionally and always early in the morning.
Please don't insult me, saying I am deluded. I have tapered and complete withdrawn many times in order to reduce tolerence and rebound insomnia. I have had a gerastic amount of improvement on my anxiety level. I don't need a euphoriant, just an extremely strong, near coma dose of a hynotic to even get 4 hours of sleep. This is becoming hazardous to my physical health.
Chronic pain, combined with 2 hours of interupted sleep for a couple years is not a joke. You do not understand my situation, if I stop taking my medication I will never sleep. Imagine going weeks at a time with no sleep, constant pain, and a physically demanding job. It would not be in my best interest to take months off from sleeping.
As I said before, I hate seroquil, and have no intention of ever using it again. Too many side effects and no benefits what so ever.
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I've been where you are. I have been a heavy user of tranquilizers and sleeping pills. I'm not talking down to you; I'm talking like someone who has been there. When I had to stop using tranks and sleeping pills, I drank myself into a near-coma every night and became physically addicted to THAT. Now that I have stopped all of that, I became able to sleep almost normally--except when my period is starting--for almost four years. I didn't think that was possible until I HAD to do it. I have not slept without sleeping aids of some kind since high school. Recently I was able to stop taking Benadryl as well and found it did nothing to help me after all.

Like you, I wasn't willing to go without anything until I had no other choice. I would have died if I had continued. I even overdosed once in my crazy efforts to get sleep. Don't tell ME I don't understand.
 
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Eye: you didn't read my previous statement, ihave withdrawn completely and the insomnia was left untreated for years. I haven't been deluding myself, and thus throwing other peoples opinion. I have taken many of the pharms suggested: and most do not even induce sedation. I t
only use my medication as needed, not as a scheduled drug regimen. Ifit runs in my family over generations, it seems to be hereditary. Stopping my medication will make it impossible to sleep.
Took 5.5 mg of clonazepam with 150 mg lamortagine, and got a semi-quality 4.5 hours of intermittently interupted sleep. Benzos work the best, and seem to hace the highest therapeutic-adverse reactions.
Read about miltown on wiki awhile ago, what's the word on it?
 
^ Do you still have Miltown (meprobamate) in the US? It's like Soma, but maybe stronger.

It's not a barb but it's not a benzo either, it's in between.
 
Eye: I'm looking for sleep to heal my body and mind. I have taken enough tranqs and sedatives to kill anelephant, you must not be considering the extenuating circumstance and project your own problems on to me. Thank you for the advice, but I'm not dependant. I don't think about taking my medicine until I need it. If you weigh the pros-cons of stopping treatment altogether, you would understand why I decline your advice. My body is dying from lack of sleep. I don't want to be on the verge of death for the rest of my life. Remember that this is a chronic and hereditary condition. It is not an effect of dependence or rebound insomnia/parasimnia.
 
^Carisoprodol is an excellent sleep aid, although like anything else tolerance builds very quickly. The withdrawals are not fun either, as they include seizures and some other symptoms similar to benzodiazepines.
 
Awesome! I'm going to call my psychiatrist tomorrow and explain the situation. How would I go about bring up these various suggestions with my doctor? She is aware of my recreational drug use/previous drug abuse bit I don't want to end up going against her proffesional opinion.
 
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