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Benzos Recommended pharms for acute insomnia and anxiety

As a supplement/drug, it is used most commonly in the form of a salt, for example sodium gamma-hydroxybutyrate (Na.GHB, sodium oxybate) or potassium gamma-hydroxybutyrate (K.GHB).
 
HdoubleODeezy said:
Zyprexa
and if you say no it is cuz you are chasing a high, which is not good to do with benzos..
Try zyprexa or seroquel.
Zyprexa is like etizolam. it's a theinobenzodiapine but a LOT more potent.
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Zyprexa isn't etizolam

Zyprexa is Olanzapine


Etizolam (marketed under the brand name Etilaam, Sedekopan, Pasaden or Depas)
 
Swerlz said:
Rx GHB lol

It's kinda hard to get Rx'd and you can only get it from the manufacturer.. but it's a possibility

look into it if you can
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What doctor would Rx Xyrem these days? lol

and what do you mean, get it from the manufacturer?
 
^careful flirting with source discussion fellas or you might get bitch slapped.

And I agree, I'd be shocked if any legitimate physician prescribed xyrem for insomnia.
 
Yeah, I don't forsee my doctor willingly prescribing Xyrem to me. And the source discussion should be allowed as it is a schedule III drug in the US, and it is inl distributed through it's manufacturer, it's not available through pharmacies.
 
entheo said:
Yeah, I don't forsee my doctor willingly prescribing Xyrem to me. And the source discussion should be allowed as it is a schedule III drug in the US, and it is inl distributed through it's manufacturer, it's not available through pharmacies.
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its all academic anyway since you still need to have a doctor prescribe it. Generally though, legality is irrelevant regarding source discussion. If a drug can be abused, we don't allow discussion on how to acquire it. There's not really any gray area regardless of issues of legality, necessity, etc.
 
Thanks for expanding on the forum roles, never knew that to be honest. But there were no specifics discussed, just the statement thy it is only available through it's tade name manufacturer and regulated by the FDA.

Noam is looking classy on your avatar :)
 
^that he is!

Initially I spoke about sourcing before looking into what was meant exactly but I understand now and from the way I see it, that discussion doesn't violate any guidelines.
 
^ like I said, seroquil makes me feel like a half dead delusional zombie. And I am trying to ween myself off cannabis.
I just want an effective therapeutic dose.
^^ thanks for the source rule verification
 
50mg of Seroquel taken early evening should leave you feeling ok after a morning shower and a strong cup of coffee... no?
 
I would consider trying to not use benzodiazepines on a daily basis. Z-drugs are just as bad in this regard.

I would look into drugs other than GABAergics.

If you want to take a benzodiazepine once or twice a week (three times at the max) then temazepam by itself for sleep, should work well. If you have a large enough tolerance, it might not though. Benzos vary amongst individuals a lot.

For anxiety, I prefer the quicker acting benzos, but these are also the most addictive, so I wouldn't recommend them for you.

If you were to want a benzo for anxiety which you could take 3 to 4 times per week, I would get something that's shorter acting like lorazepam, or possibly something that isn't as strong or addictive, like oxazepam. You could also try asking for the lowest dose of alprazolam, since it works great for panic and intense anxiety. The trouble is most people who have a history of benzo abuse, will typically abuse alprazolam. There are exceptions of course.

HdoubleODeezy said:
ok so if you are un willing to listen to others ideas why ask in the first place.. and lamictal i a mood stabilizer.. not an atypical or typical antipsychotic.. im outta this thread.. good luck on sleeping.
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I don't like to recommend drugs to people that have black box warnings like this drug you mentioned does, but you are right. It isn't an antipsychotic.

entheo said:
The zyprexa isn't used FDA labelled or prescribed off label for insomnia. Not sure why I can't snare that suggestion when I'm trying to improve my health. Seroquil has causes too many unwanted side effects for me to commit to taking them.
Long acting benzos would be my best bet would t they?
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Long acting benzodiazepines (diazepam, flurazepam, quazepam, phenazepam) are good for sleep only if you have very occasional needs for such a long acting benzo. They are a bad idea for people who need help getting to sleep more often than not.

Long acting benzodiazepines are also good for the management of anxiety during the morning, day time, afternoon, and early evening. It can typically be taken once within a day, to positive effect for this entire duration.

I don't think that using long acting benzodiazepines on an every day basis - even for anxiety - is a good idea. Tachyphylaxis is almost inevitable with some of them if you were to use them every day, and especially if you use them more than once a day.

If you only needed a long acting benzo once every other week or once a month, I would say go for it. However, most benzodiazepines interrupt your REM sleep, therefore I would recommend temazepam over almost all other benzodiazepines (triazolam, for instance, doesn't last long enough to interrupt your REM sleep).

entheo said:
I work out everyday and have a physically demanding job. My diet is solid and I make sure to keep track of how I'm eating. Debilatating insomnia runs in my family and I have been dealing with it for years unsuccusfully.
What would pharms would help me the best, while I continue to work on the emotional/psychiatric side of this disorder? I am active in therapy, to help deal with this in conjunction with drug therapy.
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Ever considered having a sleep study done?

Especially since you said it runs in your family - has a family member ever had a polysomnograph in the past?
 
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i would not recommend zyprexa. I had horrible nightmares and depersonalization on it. It also felt more toxic than alcohol somehow. Felt downright nasty.
 
Sorry but I don't think they have invented the drugs that can actually help the OP with his problems. I've heard great things about Indica Cannabis though...
 
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