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Opioids Really need some help tappering, need a plan

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First off let me start by saying im bound and determined to do this, i dont ever get hi anymore not even a little buzz unless its somehow on accident trying to feel better.

I have to get clean first of all i need to get a new job thats gonna piss test me, second of all ive pretty much lost about everything finacially sept a few things i wish to keep. A month ago i was popping 120mgs of morphine a few times a day which then turned into 320mgs of oc a day or so.

Here right now im down to about 150mgs of morphine a day and i can go about 20 hours or so before i start dosing. I chew two or three mallie m30s at a time and usually the 60-90mgs of m take the edge off, by the time i get to the 5th one i feel like a normal human being no euphoria or anything just physically ok. Id say the worst symptoms i experince in the 20 hour persiods are sore ass legs and just genrally being tired. Cant CT becuase im to broke to not work... and usually CT just leads to alot of failure, this controlled tappering has been serving me well. Id like to be off the shit as whithin the next week or two at the most. 21 day program doent work for me and is just as exspensive as the amount of m im at right now.

So heres what i can usually get on a regular basis
m30s time release
vicoden 7.5 and 5 almost same price as m...
darvocet chheeeappp
valium and xanax

where do i go from here to make this as physically comftorable as possible? ive been at the 150mg dose of m for about a week and its not to comftorable except maybe 10 or so hours a day just enough to get through work... every time i wait those 12 to 24 hours to dose though i feel a little less uncomftable than the day before.

Ideally id like to jum; to maybe 12 darvs a day and higher doses of immodium but im not sure that will help at this point. ive been using close to everyday for a year done methadone on and off iving and so on.. so hopefully that will shed some more light on where my tolerance is and how hard it will be to jump off this shit with minimal physical discomfort. My benzo tolerance isnt very bad at all 10 mgs of valium or 1.5mgs of xanax still gets me loopy
 
Just get soome suboxone whether its legally from a clinic or dr. or from the street. It will instantly take away all withdrawal symptoms and it will not show up on a drug test.
 
i cant get street subs and have no insurance..... plus im looking to get clean tired of this life man i cant even really get a good hi anymore anyway without decent amounts of oxy which then will only last about a week before i burn out on that shit
 
No insurance? So what? I guarantee you a 120 mg morphine/day or 320 mg oxy/day habit is MUCH more expensive than suboxone maintanence. Youve allready proven that you have the money for it by doing all those expensive drugs. Whats the excuse now?
 
I started suboxone 2 and a half months ago after shooting up $200 of heroin and oxy a day for a few years. My life did a 180. I am a comletely different person now, my life is no longer about getting my fix for the day so that I can atleast feel normal. Ive gotten a job, I look healthier, I dont do illegal things anymore because of my habit....etc.. Also, its much less money than I was spending to even stay normal while on heroin or oxy. I dont get high anymore, I just take my suboxone and feel completely normal. Not groggy, not sick, nothin.
 
You say that you wanna get clean?....well when your on methadone, the urge to keep abusing drugs is still nice and strong because you can be on methadone and still go out and score and get high as a kite, the methadone will actually potentiate the high from the oxy or morphine. Suboxone blocks other opiates from even touching the opiate receptors in your brain, therefore, not even a chance to not "be clean".
 
i went to a meth clinic and did a 21 day program they charged me 20 a day plus gas wich came to about 35 a day which is what i pay for 150mgs of m, they wanted 900 for the sub program i cant get that cash up front... even a drs appointment would be 200 plus the pills for sub, which i honestly cant afford i can afford my 5ms right now but its still finacially fucking me 35 day is alot easier becuase i make tips.. If i could afford sub maintence i would be willing i wanted to do that over the 21 day program anyways. Methadone never held me for the full 24 hours and i was pretty sick at the end i feel the whole thing was pointless
 
Bro 150mg of morphine should be relatively easy to taper. Its not really a super high dose of opiates that you're on now.
Morphine can be dropped around 30mg a week, most likely even quicker if you're impatient.

But because its morphine I'd dose twice a day till you get down to around 60mg. Then slowly cut back your second dose till its gone.

Kinda like:
Week 1: 150mg am - 120mg pm
Week 2: 120mg am - 90mg pm
Week 3: 90mg am - 60mg pm
Week 4: 60mg am - 30mg pm
Week 5: 30mg am - 0mg pm (add weaker opiate like darvs)
Week 6 jump off onto a benzo, darvocets, and immodium

Then slowly taper off the rest of the meds you're on for a couple weeks.

You can most likely taper down the morphine quicker than that, but that should be more than comfortable enough to drop at that sequence.
In all honesty once you get down to 60mg it will still be pretty easy to just jump off onto the darvs and benzos. If you have enough darvs and benzos alone, they really will minimize the wds A LOT. You could even jump off at where you're at now too, but I am not a fan of taking massive amounts of darvocet like that. The highest I went in detox on darvs was 300mg twice a day, and that was more than enough to cover most of my wds.

As far as the vicoden I'd definitely scrach it from the list. Focus on tapering just ONE strong opiate. If you're using the vicoden to handle wds you're only gonna be delaying wds a ton. Something like darvs does not delay wds no matter how much you take. Because I know once I stopped the darv most of my wds were gone, and I was only on them for like 6 days. If you use vicoden instead of darvs, by day 6 when you stop, you'll most likely be slammed by some pretty ugly wds.
I'd def stick to just tapering one strong opiate, and with darvs and benzos you really are good to go.
 
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