Rate the legal highs

[Madmike]

Sacred Blue Lily 2/5
Kratom 5/5
Lions Tail 2/5

 

[MDPVagrant]

I had to bump & edit this thread to put in a good word for propylhexedrine (Benzedrex). Man, this stuff is really good for being OTC (hell, it's good even compared to most illegal/prescription drugs). 3-4 hour energetic, euphoric high with little or no crash.

I agree, but it's worth pointing out that the peripheral sides are NOT negligible. I've heard about a few cases of sudden/blinding headaches + temporary loss of consciousness, which is quite worthy of concern. Probably people who are over-sensitive to it, but anyone trying it for the first time should be really cautious.

Oh, and for goodness' sake, don't eat the cotton. Break open the inhaler, pull out the cotton stick, drop it in one of those little containers of lemon juice (the $1 ones you can buy in grocery stores), leave it overnight, pull the cotton out in the morning and voila -- lemon energy drink. Based on subjective effects, this extracts at least 75-80% of the drug, and you don't have to eat cotton (very bad for you).

IME just eating one or two inhalers worth doesn't do any harm. Aside from potential intestinal blockages, how else could it be bad for you? And that one depends entirely on quantity. The only reason I still do it from time to time is that I personally get more like ~50% extractions, and that's using strong hydrochloric acid, not lemon juice. I have a feeling that the propylhexedrine HCL is not as bioavailable as the freebase for some reason.

 

[Psychlone Jack]

On benzedrex right now, very impressed thus far! 8/10 overall.

Contemplating a 2nd 250mg dose.

 

[MDPVagrant]

On benzedrex right now, very impressed thus far! 8/10 overall.

Contemplating a 2nd 250mg dose.

I'd take it easy... at least for me, 500mg is a bit of an overdose (but I'm 5'9" and weigh 140 or so). Might try cutting the cotton in half & take another 125. Fwiw, there's a point where I don't really get much higher if I do more.

 

[Psychlone Jack]

I decided to hold off and glad I did, the real high hadn't yet even begun really at the time of my last post. Feeling great. Def. don't need the extra but do think I'd be able to handle it being 6'5" and 290 lol.

 

[mogle42]

Sacred Blue Lily 2/5
Kratom 5/5
Lions Tail 2/5

all 5/5 if you get a good vendor. it mostly depends on how fresh it is but sometimes you just have bad luck with herbals and it wont work no matter what method you use. for dagga best to get the buds and give it a few days. for the lilies if you get a reliable vendor instant results more so with the resins imo. blue lily is a great potentiator for kratom.

my new favorite is passiflora densiflora. a very pleasant smoke anyone else try it?

 

[The_Idler]

when its in season, i roll with it.

 

[Madmike]

all 5/5 if you get a good vendor. it mostly depends on how fresh it is but sometimes you just have bad luck with herbals and it wont work no matter what method you use. for dagga best to get the buds and give it a few days. for the lilies if you get a reliable vendor instant results more so with the resins imo. blue lily is a great potentiator for kratom.

Yeah, I always get my kratom very fresh and strong smelling.

I have tried lily and lion's tail both smoked and made into tea with water.

Only mild effects, maybe I could try them from a different vendor.

 

[SpunkySkunk347]

Dimenhydrinate/Diphenhydramine 1 out of 10 - Shittiest feeling on earth taking this stuff recreationally.

Datura/Belladonna/Jimson Weed - Never taken it and dont plan on it, but cant imagine it would rate much higher than a 0.5 out of 10.

Morning Glory Seeds 4 out of 10 - Not worth the body load.

DXM 7 out of 10 - Can be somewhat uncomfortable ingesting it, and the effects can be overly intense. Good recreationally, but chronic use of this stuff is bound to fry your brain.

Salvia Divinorum 5 out of 10 - Not really recreational. Just a short period of intense hallucinations that you dont remember 90% later. I think there is something similar to this that we all do on a regular basis, its called DREAMING/SLEEPING.

Pseudoephedrine 3.5 out of 10 - Feels like the shitty side effects of bad speed when taken in high doses. If thats your bag, then go ahead.

Nitrous Oxide 8 out of 10 - pure fucking awesomeness, only problem is its short lasting and very psychologically addicting

Caffeine 2 out of 10 - Panic attack in an ingestible form. Only good for staying up late.

Chocolate 8 out of 10 - fucking awesome and underrated. I'd honestly take a bar of chocolate over a hit of salvia any day of the week any week of the year. Problems: Constipation and unhealthy.

Hot Sauce/Hot Peppers 7 out of 10 - good rush if you are massochistic, and will dissociate you and get you euphoric as fuck if you take a lot of it. Problems include: molten lava explosive diahrea, and extreme stomach pain.

 

[rashandreflex]

Hot Sauce/Hot Peppers 7 out of 10 - good rush if you are massochistic, and will dissociate you and get you euphoric as fuck if you take a lot of it. Problems include: molten lava explosive diahrea, and extreme stomach pain.

can anyone comment on this? i'm assuming the high comes from endorphins released in response to pain, but i'm sure we've all had really hot food and not had the experience you're describing. can you extrapolate on the dissociative state and why that would happen?.....and the euphoric state as well

i know the spicily active compound is capsacin.....

 

[enoughorangejuice?]

IMO people shouldn't talk so much about PPT, IMO, the more talk the most likely it will become illegal and harder if not impossible to find, we are lucky that we have one source of legit M for pain relief, etc, but it really bothers me to see people openly discussing it, although i know its fine to do so, and i have as well, it just makes me think that we're hurting our chances of it staying around (Readily available) for much longer.... just my 25cents (23 extra b/c its holiday time) LOL

 

[garuda]

IMO people shouldn't talk so much about PPT, IMO, the more talk the most likely it will become illegal and harder if not impossible to find, we are lucky that we have one source of legit M for pain relief, etc, but it really bothers me to see people openly discussing it, although i know its fine to do so, and i have as well, it just makes me think that we're hurting our chances of it staying around (Readily available) for much longer.... just my 25cents (23 extra b/c its holiday time) LOL

Its already illegal without a prescription, and whens the last time a physician wrote an RX for poppy straw?

Enforcement is the issue, but people have been predicting a crackdown coming on a decade now. Probably will happen eventually that some big vendors or farms will get get busted and cause a panic in ebay park. If that happens invest in the company that makes suboxone.

 

[enoughorangejuice?]

haha yeah...true dat... who does make subutex/suboxone anyway? i should kno i have a script for subox.... reckitt benckiser is the company I THINK..prob not tho

 

[stirfry]

N20 - 4/10 - whippits are the most common legal high IME, but it really isn't that great. its pretty good if your already high on MDMA or stimulants, and i've heard its good while tripping, but on its own it's pretty boring. i've had a few amazing experiences with it with no other drugs invovled (ie, the craziest deja vu ive ever experienced), but most of the time its just dirty dumbed down feeling for a minute or two.

DXM - 7/10 - next most popular legal high after whippits. this is a pretty good drug for me, a decent dissociative trip. its compareable to ketamine, but it has a lot more side effects and lasts quite a long time. if it weren't for the gastrological and itching/blotchy skin issues it sometimes produces, it would probally be illegal.

alkyl nitrites - 1/10 - head rush for like 10 seconds, no real high. i guess it might be good with stimulants, but have never tried this and probally wont even bother.

LSA - 5/10 - morning glory seeds can produce a good trip, but it has many annoying side effects that make it kinda pointless is you can source LSD (ie, nausea, vommiting, sedation and muscle cramps that are absent with acid).

propylhexedrine - 8/10 - great OTC high IMO. i find it very euphoric, comparable to scheduled stimulants. its main downside is the disgusting taste of the benzedrex inhaler. also, it can make you feel overstimulated after the euphoric stage wears off, but benzos/opiods/booze takes care of that nicely. another plus is that insomnia isn't really an issue like it is with some stims. this one definitely wins the "i cant believe this shit is OTC" award.

Salvia - 4/10 - its ok to try a few times because of it's intensity and its novel nature, but it quickly becomes pointless. the short duration is a plus with this one.

alcohol - 8/10 - while not usually considered in these types of polls, i would say that alcohol is great fun. the only downside is vommiting/dizziness from overcomsumption and, of course, the hangover.

 

[SpunkySkunk347]

can anyone comment on this? i'm assuming the high comes from endorphins released in response to pain, but i'm sure we've all had really hot food and not had the experience you're describing. can you extrapolate on the dissociative state and why that would happen?.....and the euphoric state as well

i know the spicily active compound is capsacin.....

I'm not talking about simple "spicy" foods. Im talking about the hot shit. Habanero peppers, dave's insanity sauce, or hell if your feeling risky even a grain of pure capsaicin.

Literally till the point where your mouth is in intense pain where you are screaming for mercy.
Then about 3 minutes after that, bliss
Your body goes into shock. (A lot of endorphins released, epinephrine, etc)
Ever heard of people getting into car-accidents and feeling dazed afterwards, even if they werent physically injured? It's because they went into shock.
Or when something really painful happens (i.e., breaking a bone) some people say they don't really remember what happened and it all seemed surreal?
The same type of "dissociation" occurs with large amounts of hot sauce.
It's an incredible fucking feeling, honestly. The major draw back (or atleast the principle draw back) is that about half an hour after you ate the hot sauce, your stomache feels like someone is stabbing it and twisting the blade around. Seriously your gut hurts bad.
If you get this, antiacids and pepto-bismol seem to do the trick in getting rid of it fairly quickly.
"Drinking water makes it worse, milk + bread makes it better." This saying goes true for any situation dealing with hot food.

 

[stirfry]

I'm not talking about simple "spicy" foods. Im talking about the hot shit. Habanero peppers, dave's insanity sauce, or hell if your feeling risky even a grain of pure capsaicin.

Literally till the point where your mouth is in intense pain where you are screaming for mercy.
Then about 3 minutes after that, bliss
Your body goes into shock. (A lot of endorphins released, epinephrine, etc)
Ever heard of people getting into car-accidents and feeling dazed afterwards, even if they werent physically injured? It's because they went into shock.
Or when something really painful happens (i.e., breaking a bone) some people say they don't really remember what happened and it all seemed surreal?
The same type of "dissociation" occurs with large amounts of hot sauce.
It's an incredible fucking feeling, honestly. The major draw back (or atleast the principle draw back) is that about half an hour after you ate the hot sauce, your stomache feels like someone is stabbing it and twisting the blade around. Seriously your gut hurts bad.
If you get this, antiacids and pepto-bismol seem to do the trick in getting rid of it fairly quickly.
"Drinking water makes it worse, milk + bread makes it better." This saying goes true for any situation dealing with hot food.

i think this is only for the masochists. I've gone into shock before (i got my face bitten badly by a dog, the ER doctor couldn't even remember how many stitches he put into me), and while surreal and peaceful, its not cool.

though i do admit i had a friend that used to induce shock unto himself purposefully. he would do it by taking a really hot shower, then turning the water straight to cold. sounds fucked up to me, but i guess some people like the feeling.

overall, i think these practices are very destructive to the body, and the feeling really inst worth it.

 

[SpunkySkunk347]

i think this is only for the masochists. I've gone into shock before (i got my face bitten badly by a dog, the ER doctor couldn't even remember how many stitches he put into me), and while surreal and peaceful, its not cool.

though i do admit i had a friend that used to induce shock unto himself purposefully. he would do it by taking a really hot shower, then turning the water straight to cold. sounds fucked up to me, but i guess some people like the feeling.

overall, i think these practices are very destructive to the body, and the feeling really inst worth it.

yeah, its definitely more for massochistic people
Or if you think that the "epiphany" you sometimes get with a near death experience is cool, then self-induced shock is for you
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acute_stress_reaction

 

[jaminjamin]

I was addict to meth many years ago

And i found 48mg + 150mg of cafeine do exellent job ,in my case in a restaurant rush !

And it's totally legal , you can sleep , and i don't cry the day after !

It's far less euphoric than meth , but in my opinion more safe and less
psycological addictive.

 

[Ham-milton]

I'm a little confused. What is the 48mg you're talking about?

 

[melange]

IMO people shouldn't talk so much about PPT, IMO, the more talk the most likely it will become illegal and harder if not impossible to find, we are lucky that we have one source of legit M for pain relief, etc, but it really bothers me to see people openly discussing it, although i know its fine to do so, and i have as well, it just makes me think that we're hurting our chances of it staying around (Readily available) for much longer.... just my 25cents (23 extra b/c its holiday time) LOL

and doesn't this suck?


we are responsibly using a drug


and I can really see them just taking it away