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Rate the legal highs

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DXM 10/10 -- this supplies the best trips and best euphoria out of anything I've tried. I could spend the rest of my life on DXM and that would be so happy. For most people, though, it's gonna be a miss.l

nitrous 5/10 -- fucks you up bad for a short while. if you're on something else, it can be interesting, otherwise, it's just like having a firecracker go off in your face

diphenhydramine 1/10 -- makes you delerious, damages your short-term memory and vision for days afterwards

nutmeg 4/10 -- not worth eating the nutmeg. its effects ranges from a buzzed alcohol-like socialization, to a day-dreaming, zone-out, moderate stone. unfortuneatly, it's only nice day 1, and you'll have dry mouth for up to 2 days after. (still, I usually eat all the nutmeg leftover after holiday cooking each year)

kava 6/10 -- fresh kava, and it's nice. chills you out, have a conversation or play some video games. mild sedation and mild euphoria. closer to weed than alcohol, but not a replacement

damaina -- can give you great placebo effects once or twice

haven't used kratom / other herbs to have a fair opinion of them yet. haven't tried the inhaler stimulants cuz.. i don't like stimulants
 
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malfunkshun said:
seeds aren't washed. thats a myth. good seeds come from scored pods, bunk seeds come from unscored pods. scored pods being those harvested for the opium for legal or illegal use, unscored pods being seeds that are taken out of pods that are dried first, or just thrown away because they are only grown for the seed market.

and from my experience, i have always gotten better highs from good seeds than any pod variety. so if you manage to get good seeds, you are NOT WASTING YOUR TIME. and they're easier to get than pods, that is, if you know of a good source. lately it has been really hard to get good seeds anymore.
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how would seeds from milked pods be better than those of dried?
 
When you milk a pod no matter how careful you are some cuts go all the way through the pod, this causes opium to bleed inside the pod as well as outside.

The opium that bleeds inside coats the seeds as they develop, making potent seed.

If you've ever ordered pods save the seeds and try making tea from them, you are guaranteed those seeds are unwashed. But most likely they will be totally useless, so its not that all seeds are potent. The potent seed is when opium gets on them, the most likely answer is scored pods or pods harvested while before being dry and crushed by machinery.
 
garuda said:
Oh and just for informations sake poppy pod and seed tea is technically illegal, its just not enforced.

Poppy pods are flat out illegal, they are poppy straw and schedule 2 along with morphine and oxycodone.
Poppy seeds are specifically legal, but once you wash them that "tea" is illegal.

Doesn't matter if the source is legal, and kind of extract containing morphine and other C2 substances is not.

Now realistically I know its defacto legal activity as you couldn't get busted for it, just wanted the record set straight :)
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http://www.poppies.org/2001/07/28/poppy-straw-and-international-narcotics-control/#more

not so in practice.... check out the above link for details.
 
Salvia's the only legal one I've tried. It's a legal hallucinogenic here in the UK (only because the government don't know about it yet), you just bong it like bud. Strangest experience I've ever had on drugs.

I made the mistake of smoking it without a sitter, not wise. I mixed it 50-50 with some bud, and when the bud kicked in, I decided to do 2 straight salvia bongs. Pretty much as soon as I finished the second one I thought I had left my body. Spent the next 10 minuted anxiously trying to get back into it.

Then, the far corner of my room faded to black, and there were those coloured alphabet fridge magnets (you know, for kids and such) floating around in the darkness. These than formed a baby elephant, which was trying to lead me out onto the landing (It's mother shortly arrived and told it to leave the poor stoner alone).

At this point I was getting a little freaked out, so thought I'd goto bed and sleep it off. The last thing I remember was lying in my bad, which had become a flatbed train, and disappearing into the tunnel that formed at the end of it.

Funny in retrospect, but I'd definitely advise anyone trying the 10x extract or higher to have a friend there as a sitter. But at twice the price of green, I think I'll leave it be.
 
I very much enjoy PPT - 8/10. I don't like the seeds, just the pods. I've had a mellow but nice experiance with MG's and am holding some HWBR for the right time - 5/10 for now. Dramamine and that class, I think that while they're pretty undesireable, they're also undeniably powerful. I had the some of the most convincing hallucinations ever off of dramamine, but it was a bit frightening and LOTS of bad side effects. Bugs crawling all over me, not fun - 4/10. And what of Datura, same boat. That shit is very, very intense. Pretty scary, complete loss of control, not very cool, but quite interesting experiance at the same time - 4/10. Nitrous... YES PLEASE! Here's a winner, only draw-back is duration, so get a few - 9/10. Haven't tried Kratom yet... don't think i will unless it's free. I used to cook a lot of DXM into powder and do it that way, it relieves only minimal negative side-effects. Pretty fun as long as you don't do too much, easy to do with powder - 5/10.
 
DemonXstreeM said:
http://www.poppies.org/2001/07/28/poppy-straw-and-international-narcotics-control/#more

not so in practice.... check out the above link for details.
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What is not so in practice? Using pod tea or sludge as a recreational drug? That report is nearly 40 years old and is just plain inaccurate, see this gem:

The above facts and figures prove that

1.

Poppy capsules must be regarded as a drug which, as far as direct consumption is concerned, cannot produce or promote drug addiction;
2.

Poppy capsules are virtually useless as a raw material for illegal opiates manufacturers. They should therefore be viewed quite differently from opium for control purposes.
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Both of these are quite obviously bullshit, you need only look on this site and others.
 
My 2 cents (canada dollars) or 2.03 cents (USD):

Propylhexedrine: (8/10) This stuff is insane as far as euphoric stimulants go! 4-4.5 hours wonderful euphoria, with minimum excess tweakiness. Also, comedown can be helped by eating sweets/ taking Tyrosine (2000 mg). And always extract-DONT EAT COTTON!!!

Morning Glories: (9/10) you can have some very enjoyable/spiritual experiences with these seeds, just remember to grind them up well and take some anti-nausea (Dramamine 2, etc.) I would personally recommend these seeds for spiritual/mind expansion over pure recreation, as they hold great potential in this field.

Yohimbe: (6/10) Good, strong stimulant, but the comedown can leave me feeling shaky, and sometimes mildly depressed. This can also be softened with starchy/sugary food. Also, it really can improver sexual performance/enjoyment (for men, at least). Of course, 35 mg yohimbine may be overdoing it a tad

Nutmeg tea: (2/10) Mild high, but fucked up my short term memory for the following four months. Not sure if related, but none to keen to repeat the experiment. Also, considering that my memory is usually a bit above average, it was a genuine impairment!

Booze: (4/10) nothing amazing, more of a "stimulant runway smoother" drug. Otherwise kinda useless.

DXM: (7/10) Can be fun, but I have paranoid drug store clerks in my area. The high can be pleasantly disorienting, but I have not experienced too much yet.

N2O: (8/10)Beautiful floating, euphoria, imagery... enough said. Only problem is price and short duration. A good general potentiator.

Alkyl Nitrite: (6.5/10) Can be a lot of fun, in moderation, but every so often can cause rather unnerving sensations of having parts of my body being tugged "sideways". Also, light headaches after use. Can be an excellent potentiator of psychedelic imagery. Also cheap at 10$ for 50-100 hits

Thanks for reading all this, I know its pretty long. :)
 
garuda said:
What is not so in practice? Using pod tea or sludge as a recreational drug? That report is nearly 40 years old and is just plain inaccurate, see this gem:



Both of these are quite obviously bullshit, you need only look on this site and others.
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no... using them as a drug is not legal but purchasing the pods/seeds is not going to be closely watched because it is not perceived as a threat. You would need to have such a large amount of them in order to produce any significant amount of drugs that they don't care. Just as you can grow a few of them as "ornamental" plants and no one will mess with you.

As for the age of the report. The amount of raw material needed to produce a significant amount of morphine or heroin will not have changed. So in this context it is still relevant.


something worth mentioning however is that as more people start to use poppy tea local states and governments will most likely start paying more attention as has happened with silvia divinorum
 
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Salvia Divinorium - 10/10, its incredible, but i wouldnt call it so recreational.
Dxm - 5/10, not a fan, always got sick on them.
Alchohol - 3/10
Nutmeg - 0/10 - absolutely revolting
Caffeine - 6/10 Hey I like it.
Nicotine - I'm a smoker, but they don't get me high, 4/10
that's it in my experience, salvia is great though, arguably produces the most unique effects out of any psychoactive substance.
 
C_Tripper said:
I wonder...

Is it possible to legally get Poppy Pods in Australia? My guess is no, right?
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sif... this is australia we're talking about. Salvia isn't even legal :o

but yea, nah i dont think they are available to us in the same manner as the international ppl
 
phatass said:
agreed... Then again "legal highs" depend on where u live... Some pretty fonky legal highs in the netherlands I believe ;)
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in the uk you can still legaly buy san pedro , peyote ,dmt containing plants, a. mauscria ,a.Pantherina and random bzp pills
sorry if this had already been mention
didnt read all the posts
 
has any one tried the explosion vials there avalible in the uk there a small vial of either blue or orange liquid i have no idea whats in them but i like them the blues kinda like a fucked up shroom trip i was suprised by this probably the most visual pre-made (like packed and synthetic i think) legal high iv had
 
burn out said:
no, it's popular because its legal and its legal because prohibition was a massive failure. since it had been legal for so long before that, society wasn't terrified of re-legalizing it like they are terrified of legalizing the more mysterious drugs despite prohibition failing to eradicate them. there is no conspiracy about wanting people to be kept stupid, if that were true the government should legalize all CNS depressants.

as for only giving it a 3/10, i think that's underestimating it. why do you think so many people who have access to lots of illegal drugs still drink alcohol? its because, in small amounts especially, alcohol can be a relatively safe and enjoyable drug.
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True.

Any substance that alters your perception is a drug.A lot of people underestimate alcohol just becasue its 100% legal. Chances of overdosing on alcohol are slim but if anyone thinks it isn't lethal, try talking to an alcoholic.
Booze is a drug can wreck your life and make you as miserable as any other addiction can.
 
kaosisallwesee said:
in the uk you can still legaly buy san pedro , peyote ,dmt containing plants, a. mauscria ,a.Pantherina and random bzp pills
sorry if this had already been mention
didnt read all the posts
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I read they're also legal in Canada. Can you get them from a pharmaceutical source in either country?
 
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