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rate of addiction to valium

I was scripted 10mg of Valium 3x daily for anxiety/PTSD/depression, from a doctor who knew of my past drug abuse and ended up getting pretty hooked on them. I would eat the whole 900mg bottle in the first 5 days or so and then get really sick and have to buy Xanax bars throughout the month to settle my W/D's and anxiety. If you don't want to deal with your addictions anymore I might reconsider the Rx for the Valium even at 5mgs. Vistaril is an ok alternative, which is a strong antihistamine with good anti-anxiety effects
 
ICE MAN-85 said:
Hey hope u get better soon, i was addicted to valium and dihdrocodeine for four years an went cold turkey last sept wen i was planning my year lon trip to oz(as i knew i would rattle bcoz i couldnt score) I am so happy i did quit(tho it was tourcher)Anyway, i went to thailand in may and relapsed on the valium, and FUCK ME, wen i got back to oz i was suicidal again, for the first time in 9 months.I am going home to scotland in 10 weeka and i know i will go back to the dihydro(even tho i was suicidal on it and valium) just cant seem to shake these craving, can any1 tell me, do they ever ease, been clean 10 months and still cholking like fuck!!!
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sucks to hear that mate. I hope it all works out for you.

I'm on a new reduction plan which is pretty much reducing the dosage by 1mg every 2 days. starting at 8mg a day. I still feel fucking shitty come the afternoon.

i went on a date last night, and drank a bit too much, but popped probably 4mg in 1mg increments over the space of 8 hours. just to try and reduce the shakes (which she noticed - so had to explain the situation, luckily she is a cool chick and understanding).

However, I have found through not taking the required dose at the usual time, and having a hang over, makes the withdrawal symptoms alot worse. has anyone else experienced something like this?

This will be the last time I drink until I am completely off this shit.
 
Alcohol use intensifies and worsens benzo WD's, I found out the hard way when I was going cold turkey off of about 200mg Valium habit, I thought drinking might help since alcohol worked on the GABA system as well...well I was wrong it made my symptoms soo much worse than they were. Just stay on your taper plan and try not to drink and you'll be ok
 
mdmantpa said:
Alcohol use intensifies and worsens benzo WD's, I found out the hard way when I was going cold turkey off of about 200mg Valium habit, I thought drinking might help since alcohol worked on the GABA system as well...well I was wrong it made my symptoms soo much worse than they were. Just stay on your taper plan and try not to drink and you'll be ok
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Cheers man.

Thats reassuring. because I was getting electric shocks in my head, hardcore nausea, everything seemed so loud and distressing. Plus the shaking.

its good to know that alcohol has exasserbated this, and that they will not be so intense. taking about 40mg codeine has hepled alot too.
 
Good luck with your tapering plan mate.

I was interested in your initial question about wds and it seems to me like you ended up experiencing some?

So you had 20mg a day for two weeks and by the end of it you experienced withdrawals?

Thats a good reminder for any of us that use the benzos to be careful...
 
i'm extremely suprised you're experiencing such drastic wd effects from a reasonably small addiction in comparison to a lot i've dealt with after 2+ years of addiction before quitting with in retrospect was an extremely quick taper.

brain zaps i've never experienced with benzo withdrawals - cold turkey from well over 100mg+ day(using much more through certain periods), stupid i know but it's the following extended months of insomnia, anhedonia, depression, rebound anxiety that are the killers.

i've never experience nausea either, nor heard of many (if any) having that as a result whether through a taper or CT.

shaking i can definitely relate with. were you dehydrated? malnourished? that's been the main case for me. or you're not dosing at the correct times. make sure you mention these things to your doctor. you may be tapering at a too quick rate.

eat healthy, drink plenty of water through your tapering period, get out and go for an hour walk once a day or every two days to help build up energy again so you're not sitting around and wallowing in your own pity making everything that much more intensified.

i still suffer from a few weeks of withdrawal symptoms if i have a binge over a week. the worst of it being the insomnia and rebound anxiety.
 
Cheers guys.

the withdrawal symptoms are greatly enhanced if I drink the night before. Generally it is just anxiousness, insomnia, head ache, nausea and shakes - if I haven't drank.

there is some good advice there left wing: since going through withdrawal, I have associated hunger with nausea. I don't get hungry anymore because I just feel nausous, but I find eating a proper sized meal helps. Keeping myself busy and trying to live a normal life too is helping alot. just hanging out with friends helps keep my mind off things, though keeping up an exercise routine is fucking difficult.

Dosing in the morning/noon is alot better than saving the two doses til around night time. elevates alot of the withdrawals. I only found this out yesterday.

will be starting on 2mg a day tomorrow. then on saturday - nothing. Kind of dreading this.

is it really difficult when you finish a taper and then will have nothing, or is the worst over? To be honest it is getting easier than it was initially so I am hoping when I do stop completely it won't be too bad. I'm going back to my mum's house for at least a few days just to have loved ones keep an eye on me incase shit really hits the fan.
 
i should mention what i said above have been my experiences after small benders lasting no more than a couple of weeks usually polyabusing with opiates on top; everyone has different reactions to withdrawals.

i just re-read and saw you mentioned effexor, is there a chance that's relative to the brain zaps? if you've recently discontinued it without a taper i think brain zaps are reasonably common reported side effect.

once the taper is finished i can't tell you how hard or easy it's going to be, that's in your court. the decisions and calls come from you. perhaps look into seeing a therapist in relation to your anxiety and depressive issues. there are any number of alternate treatments out there and not necessarily including any drugs at all.

i don't want to keep regurgitating things, but just keep your body and mind as active as possible. take it day by day:)
 
Once you are off I would definitely recommend trying to get back into your exercise regime, that can help a lot with anxiety and depression. And as leftwing said, see a therapist to help as well, I found seeing a therapist has helped me a lot with dealing with anxiety.
 
^ I've only heard of it with SSRI and SNRI withdrawal, neither of which have significant effects on dopamine (SNRIs probably somewhat more effect on DA then SSRIs due to increased NE activity). I haven't heard of brain zaps with meth abuse, maybe MDMA abuse but I can't really remember. I really only have read about brain zaps on here with SSRI and SNRI withdrawal.

Or as the pharmaceutical companies like to call it, 'discontinuation syndrome'.
 
i've had brain zaps on a few ocassions after prolonged use of meth, not very often though and nothing anywhere near the extent od discomfort to that of tramadol wd brain zaps or even serotonin syndrome zaps i have experienced. mdma abuse brought on a few as well, again nothing severe.
 
leftwing said:
i've had brain zaps on a few ocassions after prolonged use of meth, not very often though and nothing anywhere near the extent od discomfort to that of tramadol wd brain zaps or even serotonin syndrome zaps i have experienced. mdma abuse brought on a few as well, again nothing severe.
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From what i have read brain zaps seem to be associated mainly with some sort of serotonin dysregulation and have been reported in people getting off SSRI/SNRIs and after binging on MDMA. I have so far only experienced a couple of brain zaps but that was when benzo withdrawal is combined with a hangover.

Mr Blond: yeeah will definately be getting back into my exercise regime. have been doing it a little, but atm just too fucking nauesous. I am seeing a psychologist too which is helping alot. it has rekindled my interest in becoming a psychologist (so does that fact that she collects $180 for 45 minutes work 8o)
 
So I've been through 3 days of cold turkey. it actually wasn't that hard. Just had to remind myself to eat, because I was nausous as all hell. Apart from that, just some mild depersonalisation, anxiety, shakes, fucked stomach etc. Codeine has helped me get through the worst of it.

i had a girl I've been seeing stay over for two days, so having someone around to distract me has definately helped. Today, i feel ok. My appetite has returned and just feel a little sick. Should be back to normal in a few days.

Thanks for all the support guys.
 
sorry to hear you've been going through a rough patch :\

I know you're a physically active person, which usually helps to abate these things, at least somewhat. I know that the more physical activity I engage in, the better I obviously feel, but sounds like your problems are a but more far-reaching, so I hope one way or another you find a light to guide you out soon! <3
 
^ Awesome.

So I've been through 3 days of cold turkey. it actually wasn't that hard. Just had to remind myself to eat, because I was nausous as all hell. Apart from that, just some mild depersonalisation, anxiety, shakes, fucked stomach etc. Codeine has helped me get through the worst of it.

i had a girl I've been seeing stay over for two days, so having someone around to distract me has definately helped. Today, i feel ok. My appetite has returned and just feel a little sick. Should be back to normal in a few days.

Thanks for all the support guys.
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You should feel better soon brother. Don't use the codeine too much for help. ;)

Great work getting off. :)
 
^^ Having been prescribed both for anxiety [unnecessary comments removed]. Yes I just went and picked up my script for Val's today. All i'm saying is it's not something I get addicted to, isn't that the whole point of this thread. Talking about addiction to diazepam. I'm just chucking in my experience. I've never been a fiend with Val's. But i lost my xanax prescription very quickly for fiending.
 
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