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Munroe said:
Tempting. They're these 50mg caps filled with powder. Better to chomp em down, shove up my arse or stick it in my nose?

I vaguely remember an EADD'er coming out with a golden bit of advice for any chemical: "If in doubt, shove it up your arse".
Erowid is oddly unhelpful on this occasion.
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Sniffing is pointless, tramadol needs to be metabolised by the liver to be converted in O-DT. Tramadol is more stimulating than O-DT becuase it's a weaker μ-opioid receptor agonist with SNRI properties. O-DT is a more potent μ opioid agonist and just a NRI. For the first two hours it pretty much just feels like a clear headed stimulant, but then quickly fades into an opiate-like warmth.

And yeah, watch out for seizures in larger doses. Personally I can take up to 600mg's without any major problems, but that's just me!
 
and everyones bodies are different, i know thats what you were getting at but some readers think "yeay 600mg down the hatch"

i was so fucked earlier, i was stupid and had about 2g of pregabalin couldnt even walk, very stupid!
 
33Hz said:
Sniffing is pointless, tramadol needs to be metabolised by the liver to be converted in O-DT. Tramadol is more stimulating than O-DT becuase it's a weaker μ-opioid receptor agonist with SNRI properties. O-DT is a more potent μ opioid agonist and just a NRI. For the first two hours it pretty much just feels like a clear headed stimulant, but then quickly fades into an opiate-like warmth.

And yeah, watch out for seizures in larger doses. Personally I can take up to 600mg's without any major problems, but that's just me!
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I've read only a small amount (so small it makes little difference) is converted to ODT rather than it being a codeine/morphine sort of situation.
 
i forgot to say eadd ive done three months without a cigarette using nicotene replacement therepy, my carbon monoxide level is pretty much non exsistent :)
 
Nice one Acidtek. I keep quitting and then relapsing when I take drugs around other people. I'm currently quitting for the 3rd time this year 8(

People have to be stricter with me when I approach them smiling for a cigarette.
 
Munroe said:
I've read only a small amount (so small it makes little difference) is converted to ODT rather than it being a codeine/morphine sort of situation.
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I don't know that exact amount that gets converted into O-DT, but it's the primary metabolite along with N-DT. It definitely adds to the effect.
 
Nice one acid! I decided to go without any replacement therapy this time around, started almost 3 months ago, and i'm still going strong. I feel like the nicotine leaves the door open to having the odd sly fag, that becomes 10 then 20 again in no time. That's one angry week when you're quitting though.
 
Acidtek said:
i forgot to say eadd ive done three months without a cigarette using nicotene replacement therepy, my carbon monoxide level is pretty much non exsistent :)
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Congrats! <3 are you on the patches? You must be saving a fortune - I've stopped for 6-7 weeks now and finding I have more to spend on ridiculous things like shoes and tupperware :D

It feels gooood not smoking :)

Had a mental day at work, spent all day talking shit non-stop, I'm practically hoarse. Thank buddha its Friday the morra.

Evening EADD <3
 
Acidtek said:
i forgot to say eadd ive done three months without a cigarette using nicotene replacement therepy, my carbon monoxide level is pretty much non exsistent :)
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Yeah top work Acidtek Its been 11 years this Feb for me, I used the lozenges to come off, I almost went back to it a couple of years ago when I got a habit for the Nicotine inhalers that they were handing out for free in the unit I was in but I managed to get off those once I was out but it took a few weeks.

That would be my best advice for anyone giving up smoking, if you really feel like you can't cope at some later stage after coming off the nicotine replacement therapy (you know that phrase doesn't really make sense to me but then little does;)) go back to the replacement therapy not tobacco which has so much more of a psychological hold over you due to all the ritual and cross connections with certain activities etc.

The worst was over for me at about 3 months but its an addiction that has never really left me, I juts haven't smoked in a very long time.

All the best and once again good on ya
 
Once the physical withdrawals are over it ought to be plain sailing. I know I've got a rough few days ahead of me because of nicotine, plus I have a great deal of work to do by monday. Fucking nicotine. What good does it even fucking do? Smoking is rarely 'enjoyable' yet it's more addictive than heroin.
 
Hello MOP, how are you faring?

@ Dan, that brings back memories of It's All Gone Pete Tong =D
 
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