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Random MSN Gibberings XCII - Speaking of a cacophony, suck my cacophocock!

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Apart from reliably sending me off to sleep I cant really see that Id use etiz recreationally unless it mixes with a few cans of lager. ( dont try this at home folks)
 
knockando said:
It will also be six weeks since getting charged with possession and I've not had a summons yet. Not knowing if/when it will come is a bit of a drag.
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I was caught growing two cannabis plants once upon a time. They came, arrested me, and I never heard anything since. That was 2 years ago. I think they just gave it up. No warrant in my name, and no record. Lucky, I presume.
 
Albion said:
Do criminal records expire?
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Offences are considered "spent" for certain purposes.

Your record is never wiped clean though. Just not disclosed for those purposes where it is considered "spent".

So if you're into kiddie fiddling, that'll always be disclosed for jobs which require a kiddy-fiddling check.

As I understand it anyway. Like mugz said!


@ Urbain, did they actually charge you though? "You're not obliged to say anything but anything you do say may be recorded and used in evidence" etc?
 
knockando said:
Offences are considered "spent" for certain purposes.

Your record is never wiped clean though. Just not disclosed for those purposes where it is considered "spent".

So if you're into kiddie fiddling, that'll always be disclosed for jobs which require a kiddy-fiddling check.

As I understand it anyway. Like mugz said!


@ Urbain, did they actually charge you though? "You're not obliged to say anything but anything you do say may be recorded and used in evidence" etc?
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Aye. I had one of those 'production of substances' interviews, where they read from a sheet with all those pissy policy questions - ''What yeild were you expecting'', ''what strain were you growing'', etc.

On my last encounter with the police, after my ex called them, after a meph binge, I asked them to check it, and they had no record of it. Weird.
 
Urbain said:
Aye. I had one of those 'production of substances' interviews, where they read from a sheet with all those pissy policy questions - ''What yeild were you expecting'', ''what strain were you growing'', etc.

On my last encounter with the police, after my ex called them, after a meph binge, I asked them to check it, and they had no record of it. Weird.
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Oh well. Nice! Hopefully they put my file next to yours.
 
Sure it's a thienzo but there's cross tolerance and likely cross-toxicity too. I've mixed it with a few beers on a night out...But I wouldn't want to push it.
 
knockando said:
Oh well. Nice! Hopefully they put my file next to yours.
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Fingers crossed for you mate :)

EDIT: I should say that throughout the whole process, I had omitted that I was never going to sell the weed, and I had a massive habit, of which I was fuelling by growing. The plants were not ready yet, and there was no evidence of baggies, scales, etc.
 
I think being a kiddie-fiddler would show up on a check for any job, not just jobs that involve working with kids, don't think there are all that many types of CRB check, think it's just like basic and enhanced or something like that, took 5 years for a caution to come of my record so it wouldn't show up on a CRB check, that was annoying as for quite a while I didn't have a hope in hell of getting a job as I had to declare that it would come up on a CRB in the application. as soon as it became 'spent' I was getting interviews for almost all of the jobs that I applied for. They shouldn't discriminate like that but I probably would if I was an employer, there is no proof that that is why you were not offered the interview.
 
Mugz said:
took 5 years for a caution to come of my record so it wouldn't show up on a CRB check, that was annoying as for quite a while I didn't have a hope in hell of getting a job as I had to declare that it would come up on a CRB in the application. as soon as it became 'spent' I was getting interviews for almost all of the jobs that I applied for..
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I'm shocked that cautions come up in CRBs, that is fucking inexcusable. No opportunity to be found not guilty, yet you suffer all the negative consequences of a conviction (other than the sentence)? Unbelievable.
 
yeah, it pretty much messed things up for quite a while actually, was back in 2004 when I was drunk and diazed out of my head and met up with two young chavs on the street and we decided to go and break into a local school, which we did successfully, we tried to get into the computer room unsuccessfully and probably luckily as I think if we stole computers then I would have got more than a caution, we did steal a ton of chocolate from the vending machines though. This was just after christmas in 2004, we got away with it too before the police arrived, a policeman caught up with us a few minutes after though and asked us where all the chocolate that I had in my pockets and in my jumper came from, I said it was christmas presents and he let me go but took the other two kids with him as apparently they were foster kids that were known troublemakers. They obviously fessed up in the police car as about half hour later I was about 2 minutes from home and the police car tracked me down and arrested me.
 
That's a bit unlucky Mugz. I mean, who hasn't broken into a local school at some point in their teenage years?

My mate broke in to one and got caught by a policeman playing hopscotch in the playground...
 
knockando said:
I'm shocked that cautions come up in CRBs, that is fucking inexcusable. No opportunity to be found not guilty, yet you suffer all the negative consequences of a conviction (other than the sentence)? Unbelievable.
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To receive a caution you have to sign a contract admitting guilt to whatever you're being cautioned for. My understanding of the system of that there are two tiers, both regarding criminal records and CRB checks.

There is a criminal record, which will show up on a CRB check and requires a prosecution (I think). Then there is a caution, which won't show up on a normal CRB check, but for a job which would require you to work with vulnerable people (kids, learning disabilities, joining the plod etc) you would have to undergo an "Advanced CRB check". This will show up any cautions you may have received, which whilst can be considered "spent" are not removed from your record.
 
thecamelduluxe said:
To receive a caution you have to sign a contract admitting guilt to whatever you're being cautioned for. My understanding of the system of that there are two tiers, both regarding criminal records and CRB checks.

There is a criminal record, which will show up on a CRB check and requires a prosecution (I think). Then there is a caution, which won't show up on a normal CRB check, but for a job which would require you to work with vulnerable people (kids, learning disabilities, joining the plod etc) you would have to undergo an "Advanced CRB check". This will show up any cautions you may have received, which whilst can be considered "spent" are not removed from your record.
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Interesting thanks.
 
Albion said:
That's a bit unlucky Mugz. I mean, who hasn't broken into a local school at some point in their teenage years?

My mate broke in to one and got caught by a policeman playing hopscotch in the playground...
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My mum broke into one (this is going back a while, 1940s) to get her sister's homework. I haven't asked if she was caught!
 
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