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Shambles said:
Unfortunately, CBT is only of any use if the person you see is any good at it, I suspect.
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That's the thing with CBT Shammy - it's how good you're at it! It takes hard work and dedication to go through the homework and keep applying it in your life / thinking. It can't be done for you by anyone else, it's a tool for you to apply.

You really have to want to do it and change :)

Though I'm sure it doesn't work for everything / everybody :\ Obviously I'm a big promoter of it and the practise of mindfulness %)
 
Shambles said:
CBT is simplistic
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Yeh it is a simple concept - the complexity and hardwork of it comes through the application of it and your choice to do it and make it work. If you can't be arsed to do the work it ain't gonna work however that "simplistic tosh" is presented to you ;)

It is a choice and everyone's free to make that choice or not.

Since life is always going to throw up shite I chose to work with my thinking about how to cope with that in a better way...

Doubt I'm gonna convert ya since you've already made your mind up! :p But hey lets not put other folks off from taking that choice.

Anyhoo, how's you? much of a much eh?
 
Am always up for converting, m'dear. It's just that it all seems blindingly obvious and surely what everyone does anyway... but I guess not. I've always used similar techniques to those discussed in CBT sessions long before I ever had CBT. It's just that they aren't very effective for me :\

But hey ho. Such is life. Diff'rent strokes and all that :)

Am fine thanks, m'dear. Mostly exhausted and asleep for excessive periods recently. Might be lingering illness but I suspect it's more down to having me script messed about with recently. Really hope that pain clinic thing works out cos I'm buggered if I can see anything else helping on that side of things. Other than rediscovering heroin. Although that probably wouldn't be wise either. Or indeed even possible at the moment :D

Knackered again already. All rambled out now so another early night methinks. Night all <3
 
Is that all CBT is?

I knew its meant to help you deal with things differently but I've chosen to make my own choices for years thinking at those crossroads what the outcome would most likely be prior to me choosing.

I've had some real tragedy befall me a few times in my life. Some how I've always taken the best road (IMO). Made me a tough person, an honest, compassionate and caring person. I'm glad these things have made me who I AM.

I'm never one to dismiss something so easily so I will go. Preferably I'd opt for bloody counselling. It saw me through a very disturbing time when I was 7 when I was 12 and I a wee while when my mum died. I think therapy and CBT should be one course of treatment for most.


If CBT helps change the way you look at things and react. You have to ask yourself, Well why is it you deal with things THAT way?



I do blame my husband forcing some green my way for that rather disjointed post
 
Sadie said:
If CBT helps change the way you look at things and react. You have to ask yourself, Well why is it you deal with things THAT way?
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Hehe. Somewhat ironically, I'd never actually looked at it that way. The CBT approach was always my natural way of dealing with things and it really hasn't been all that successful. Should maybe be looking to replace my natural approach with something other than CBT-style thinking. Maybe I need CBT to get me out of the CBT habit I was born with? :D
 
Night Shambles. Hope the pain clinic works out for you <3

Sadie - CBT linky for ya. Aye talking therapies and counselling have their place.
http://www.rcpsych.ac.uk/mentalhealthinfoforall/treatments/cbt.aspx

Key point for me...
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"It's easy to talk about doing something, much harder to actually do it. So, after you have identified what you can change, your therapist will recommend "homework" - you practise these changes in your everyday life."


Mindfulness and CBT are close practices aka as living it :)

ps: I should get commission for this!

Have a good sleep, tomorrow is another day, let it be until it comes. I'm off to my bed in a bit too...bitch of a working week in front of me, but I'm not there yet!

Nighty nights <3


Edit: you must be happy with the way your thinking and living Shammy if you've tried and found CBT not effective for change, maybe you don't need to make changes. Lucky boy xxx
 
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Woo, CBT and mindfulness, two of my favourite things to bang on about.. sadly I'm really rusty at both these days, must rectify that. Can't be preaching it and not doing it myself :)

To me CBT is simple as in everyone knows that thinking or doing some things make you feel bad, and others make you feel good.. but just cos you realise it doesn't mean you are actually trying to put it into practice and make changes. Completely agree Kate, you've got to work at it! Really hard at first but gets easier and easier. Til you don't need it anymore and stop using it and you forget how to do it :\

http://www.moodgym.anu.edu.au/welcome can be a good online CBT resource and is recommended by psychiatrists.. I find it pretty annoying I must confess but it definitely gets you thinking in the right way..

Going to practice being mindful tomorrow :)<3

Hope everyone has a lovely and not-too-tough week.. boo for Sundays!
 
KateKwote said:
"It's easy to talk about doing something, much harder to actually do it. So, after you have identified what you can change, your therapist will recommend "homework" - you practise these changes in your everyday life."
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This is one of the areas that CBT can't help with, in my opinion. Some things can't be changed cos they really are out of your hands for one reason or another. You can choose to make the best of things you can't change. But that only gets you so far. The issues don't actually change unless they are things that are actually possible for you to change. CBT is a very straightforward and rational approach to complex and irrational issues.

It really doesn't suit me even though I do naturally tend to try to deal with things in similar ways. It doesn't change anything - that's the problem I have with it. If you don't think that way in the first place then it is a change and clearly a positive one for many. It's got me nowhere good but don't really think the issues I have are really suited to CBT anyway, to be honest. Some form of talking therapy would probably be more useful but they don't seem to have anything like that available here. All bloody CBT :!:D;)

In other moaning news, can't sleep due to tramadol taper. I'm really getting fed up with all this mad up and down med situation :\

Will cheer meself up by going away and writing down all the things that are bothering me and then develop strategies for dealing with them better straight away ;)
 
It was a chilly night in February.

Various people of various ages were sat upon their computers....
The clock had just struck 12, church bells were ringing in the distance.

"Ahoy" shouted a voice from the dark.
"who's that"? replied a bewildered bluelighter.
"It's me. I am stephen seagal, and I'm here to be your friend"
"oh, ok then. Can you get me some heroin"?
"Sure, I'm stephen seagal. I can do just about anything"

Stepen seagal took £20, tied a bedsheet around his waist and abseiled down the chimney.....

Within 10 minutes he'd returned.
He handed over a baggie containing what looked to be heroin from Afghanistan.
"Oh my god. You weren't kidding. This looks like the real deal"
Stephen seagal said "I know, I got a connection who can get 10/10 all the time"
"Thankyou stephen seagal" replied the bluelighter.

The bluelighter opened the baggie and sprinkled some illegal heroin powder onto some tin foil.
He lit a matchstick and inserted a toilet roll innnard into his mouth.

Burning the matchstick ever so carefully beneath the foil, the bluelighter bagan to run the product along the foil.

He inhaled deeply through the toilet roll tube....

"This is shit. You sold me bash" said the bluelighter.
"Haha" said stephen seagal.

The End.
 
Shambles said:
The moral of the tale being don't let Steven Seagal bash you.
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Lol. i have no experience with heroin, but i guess its the same for any drug.

i use various dealers, some ive known for quite some time now, and always check out what they have first. the rest is left to the gods, but after that, if im not happy i will swap around, whether its naivety on there part or something else, its irrelevant to me.

i like to have all mine i use working for me, hunting out what i want and showing me new things they have. i make the final choice what im willing to try and whether i buy it again, or even go back to them again.

discerning all the way. its not there choice to decide otherwise
 
^ Don't often get much choice when buying heroin, unfortunately. Especially when there's a nationwide drought on. Rather glad I avoided this one by cunningly quitting heroin a few years ago.

Cornish: Not too bad thanks. Morose would possibly be the word. But have been called worse. Trust things are well in your world too? Aside from that nasty Steven Seagal biznizz :\
 
Somewhat similar here really. Can't sleep cos of the bloody tram taper, have a fuckton of PMs and stuff I really should be replying to but not got the energy to be sociable for similar reasons. Balls of Steel is on tellybox so may snigger at that for a while. Or may half watch it, half post the odd pointless ramble here. Ooh! The exciting possibilities ahead are truly endless!!! Or maybe truly pointless? You decide.

What does a Cornish man do to while away the wee small hours? No ships to wreck or owt?
 
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