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Benzos Question regarding extracting Xanax from Xanax Retard

shewei

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Hello, ive never paid a lot of attention in chemistry classes in high school which i am now regretting.

Recently i got my hands on 30 1mg Xanax Retard pills (as i understood this is the same as Xanax ER in the US.)

Although those xanies work great for people with anxiety id like to use them recreationally. After doing some thorough research on the internet (and this site in particular) ifound out that it is really hard to defeat the gel based time release. One site/topic mentioned using methanol or 100% ethanol since alprazolam is soluable in alcohol and the mentioned gel matrix isnt. I had problems however finding a store (i live in the Netherlands) where theyd sell either methanol or 100% ethanol. Lots of drug stores however sell so called Denaturated Alcohol. Which is, according to the ingredients list on the bottle 96% alcohol and 'aqua'. However, there must be more ingredients in the bottle since its denaturated which means as i understood it that it has been made unfit for human consumption.

Since ive 30 pills and a lot of time on my hands today i decided to give the extraction method a try anyway. First i grinded the pill to a very fine powder. i put the powder in a tall shot glass and added the alcohol. After some stirring and shaking i noticed that the solution wasnt gelling up like it used to do when i just used water.
I put the shot glass away and noticed after 4 hours that there seemed to be some 'seperation' going on. On the bottom of the glass was a white jelly goo and the rest of the alcohol on top looked like milk dilluted with water.
I carefully extracted the milky substance out of the glass with an oral syring leaving the white jelly goo on the bottom of the glass.
Next I put the milky substance in another tall shot glass and filled a cereal bowl with very hot water. In it I Placed the shot glass. For the next 10 to 15 minutes I made sure by replacing the water every once in a while that the water in the bowl stayed hot.
15 minutes later all the alcohol in the glass was evaporated and all that was left was a small amount of fine white powder.

When I added some water to the powder it did not gel up. Which made me believe that the powder atleast had no gel matrix in it anymore.

I see ive been rambling on for quite some time now. My question is twofold. First, id like to know if anyone here knows how toxic the powder might stilll be (secretly i know the answer because you guys dont know what, except for obviously the alcohol, the remaining ingredients of the denaturated alcohol could be. Secondly, although there might still be some toxins left i can imagine since its such a small amount they might not be that harmfull (wishfull thinking , i know :)).

Thanks in advance for reading this huge wall of text!

fixed: thought there was a self incriminating rule here, my bad.
 
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Denatured alcohol has a bittering agent added.

We don't do the "my cat" nonsense here, cut it out.

Sorry, didnt know that. So it would be save to try it out? I know most of the stuff in Xanax XR pills is filler but the powder that is left over after the process described above is really small. Am i on the right track or isnt this a good way to to extract the xanax from the pills?
 
It should be safe but very very bitter, it could make you sick.

Try using isopropanol next time, which does not have a bittering agent or denaturant added.
 
Xanax Retard pills? Lulz

:d, guess it stands for retarded-release.

Any C&C on the extraction method tho? Although the fine powdered resideu that i end up with at the end seems to be xanax the very small amount of it might make it an ineffective method. Has anyone else here ever tried to beat the gel matrix in (Xanax) XR/ER pills?
 
It should be safe but very very bitter, it could make you sick.

Try using isopropanol next time, which does not have a bittering agent or denaturant added.

i used isoprapanol this time, not the rubbing agent, 100% pure form. Instead of draining the milky substance i just kept agitating the solution every 30 minutes for 4 hours. After that i used a hairdryer to evevaporate most of the isopropanol. After about 5 minutes all that was left were some mildy moisterised clumps of white powder.
After that i read up on the toxicity of isoprapanol and as far as i understood it isopropanol is not that toxic at all. So the 1 or 2 ml. of isopropanol left shouldnt be harmfull. i added some hot water stirred and gulped it down (the taste wasnt that bad). Ill report back later.

PS: as i said, i used the hairdryer to evap the iso, does anyone know here what the max temp for alprazolam is before it starts breaking down?
 
be careful when my dad moved back to the states from the netherlands he gave me a bunch of xanax retard pills, that was when i had my first seizure from xanax
 
be careful when my dad moved back to the states from the netherlands he gave me a bunch of xanax retard pills, that was when i had my first seizure from xanax
Whoa. Having a seizure from Xanax is highly rare. Same for other benzos - they treat seizure disorders (but aren't used exclusively due to the dependence/tolerance issues).

Did you mean you had a seizure AFTER the Xanax wore off?
 
you should have just popped them

Why, you think you cant beat the XR/CR Matrix?

The isoprapanol extraction seemed to increase the rate of absorption to some degree but still nothing like regular xanax IR. Right now im trying two different methods. I
bought a bunch of limes (low pH), squeezed the juice, crushed 2 pills and added them to the lime juice, stirred thoroughly, and now im going to let it sit it for the night. The ideahere is of course to simulate the low pH stomach acids.
I read somewhere else that letting the crushed pills dissolve in carbonated water might also work. No idea what the science is behind this method, if anyone knows, please let us know. Maybe i also should try combining the two for maximum result.

The funny thing is that i really dont like benzo's that much, its more of a science project now.

Ill report back later for results.
 
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