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Purifying dmt containing resin

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So i'm at this party in the woods last night, fucked up off a mxe and other substances and i meet a guy who offers to give me some DMT. I was a bit skeptical at first like - "dmt for free?" "what if it's heroin?". He said it was the leftovers from all the crystals that have been taken out. He said it was 4 doses but i have no idea how strong this stuff is, if it's really DMT, if it's worth my time. I just wanna know more about this amount of drug i have. It's small like a raisin, it's .236 grams, it's sticky, black with a purple hue sort of like a prune, smells sort of like weed resin mixed with a little fruity smell with a hint of muskyness/plastic.

quality?
dosages per quality? i would check erowid but their dosages are based off of purely crystalized dmt.

edit: oh and preparing for the trip? tips? tips for smoking it properly
 
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Possibly DMT and whatever is left from the pipe he reccovered it from. It sounds like a resball containing DMT. You can try smoking it, but it might be a little intense smoking something of unknown purity that is an extremely strong effect. Maybe try rinsing it with isopropyl, filtering through a coffee filter, and evaporating if you know how to do that and you might end up with an easier to smoke product as well as one easier to look at. Still it will not be like pure DMT as who knows what else is in it and that can make all the difference.

Although this does not necessarily mean it will be too intense if it is real DMT, but I can see problems easily forming from not knowing what it is. As well as if it is what it is. Like untested tabs no one can tell you what it is unless you have a lab analysis. Good luck with your travels!

Ps. Also I would recommend just looking into ayahuasca or extracting DMT yourself (Remember this is probably illegal where you are so don't do this if you do not have the proper permission) as it can be easy, fun, very worthwhile for the cost, but also dangerous if you are going about it the wrong way as you have to use flammable solvents. I do not recommend this if you are not comfortable with your ability to try a new procedure on your own. Especially without any previous lab experience. IMO this is really the only way to get your own DMT unless you know someone who extracts it and pretty much gives it away to share this wonderful thing and not to have pigs test their products.
 
you could try dissolving it in the smallest amount of hot naptha, hot filter it, then stick it in the freezer and collect whatever falls out of solution
 
the leftovers from all the crystals that have been taken out.

Can't see what he means by that - if all the DMT crystal has been taken out then all you're left with is inactive shit.

If it's stuff he's already smoked and then pulled out of the pipe I really wouldn't bother.
 
Check in over at the DMT-nexus. Some of the mods there are on a bigger power trip than the people here, but there are also some very smart members/mods there. Defiantly try asking over there.

I will say a few things though to start the first being it will be EXTREMELY hard to extract. You will probably still end up with goop in the end that may have some crystals popping out depending how concentrated that resin is. I would also recommend using 99% ISO if not pure iso as it evaps extremely quickly as well is pretty available for cheap.

As far as naptha I always found it was a bitch to evap. Plus I personally can not get it anymore, but I do not know about you. While it works great for freeze precipitation as a user lightly described above it probably will not work well with this goo ball as there is possibly way to much random useless shit in there as well as not enough spice. You definitely want to dissolve it in a good solvent that is more strictly non-polar vs. polar and than leave it to evaporate on a clean surface using a fan (careful I have heard of iso being set aflame by a fan spark, but this person must have used a lot of iso without ventilation) and no external heat (if heat it is used NO FIRE... FIRE+FLAMABLE SOLVENT=BAD). You should have cleaned most of the nasties out of it, but it will not be pure and I highly doubt there is any real cost efficient way to purify it.

IMO you are better off learning how to make it yourself and do it right if it is the first time.... Honestly I bought mine the first time (orange/beige powder) and it was the best damn DMT of my life... Better than any extraction tek of mine and only because it was so easy to smoke vs giant crystals. I think I was very lucky with getting that spice first and would recommend if you find any orange-beige dry powder dmt that is reputable get it as it is godly. Honestly if you do get DMT this way make sure you figure out if it has been recrystalized or rewashed after the initial extraction as well as if it is pure white or jungle colored. Jungle I think is easier to smoke if it is powder, but not if it is red jimjam or goopey stuff (I once seen a dark color goop that apperently started clear white that was supposed to be amazing... I did not touch it). If you get crystals break it down. It is a nice gesture that the person did and it may end up leading you on an AMAZING journey that will be with you forever, but it could also just be bunk after being smoked.

Also I recommend for smoking buying a cheap bubbler, a glass screen, and sandwich in between mullein or cannabis. Cannabis is supposed to dull it, but my first bowl was in cannabis and was AMAZING. You might also want to look up how to make changa (herbs saturated with dmt + usually harmalas, but is not necessary). It may be your best option for working with that goop to soak it into some kind of herb like mullien, which is best for it IMO. I found the process to be complicated and never really got down a method to evap my solvent out of my leaf to my satisfaction, but I had MANY requests to use it so people seemed to like it. Although I was mostly making mine out of just throwing mostly dried crystal in its last stages of drying in a container of herbs and mixing it around till I was satisfied before letting it breath and lightly heating.

With everything in this post you should be able to figure out what to do, but I HIGHLY recommend visiting the DMT nexus to look up anything you don't understand as that is where I originally learned so much about DMT.
 
The tars are more soluble in isopropanol than the freebase DMT - use naptha to extract, not isopropanol, regardless of how fast it takes it to evaporate.

If this is the left over "jungle spice" from naptha precipitations it's liable to be a very strange and unpredictable experience.
 
heres my thoughts (ive dealt with DMT extractions in the past):

1) 236mg of PURE dmt would be about 4-7 uses. Since this isnt pure, its likely 2-5 uses.

2) clean it using hot naptha or bestine or toluol. Warm about 30mL of solvent to at least 30 Celsius, add the resin, and stir well for a minute or two while keeping it warm/hot. pour the solvent (should be piss-coloured now) into a flat try and let it evaporate outside in a warm breeze. (1-3hrs to evap). You'll be left with a light yellow pile of crystals if all goes well, that is several times purer then before. whatever didn't absorb into the solvent will be unwanted.

3) the resin itself can be used, but be careful as you dont know its purity. could be anything from 50mg-200mg of dmt inside the resin.

4) its DMT. that musky plastic smell is the dead giveaway.
 
I honestly think it's not worth the effort of going through a huge extraction on a .3g ball of dmt resin... Just smoke some of it (a bit at first, like 20mg), see how you feel, and go from there... That's my advice.
 
I know you said we aren't allowed to have "id threads" but i'm not sure if what i'm about to ask is an "id question", my motives are to id it but it's an indirect question i s'pose.

- How are so many of you so sure that it's resin? I may have led you to believe it's more "goopy" than it is. Upon further inspection its rather dense and not actually "sticky", just a ball of black stuff. I'm not sure if you'd consider it "crystally" or not. Its black, its shiny, however i could flatten or morph the material. Is it against the rules to post a pic of it? Yeah i think i'll measure out 20 mg and try it in an hour or so and then do a proper dose this weekend with my friend (if she's down). I'll let ya know how "pure" it is LOL.

Also i agree psilocybonaut, it's too small of an amount to try extracting. i've read a guide on how to create dmt and it's way out of my league in terms of chemistry or whatever (i never took chem) and i really would hate to ruin my chance of a lifetime to try this holy chemical
 
I'm just gonna start my trip report in here (assuming i take enough of a dose)

Preparation: I take out the dmt recieved at the party, i break off a piece onto the scale, it reads 58 mg. For a second i think this is a message from god to just do a heavy dose my first time but rationality kicks in and i decide to not be selfish and wait for my friend. I break the little piece in half, it weighs 26 mg - PERFECT. I am out of weed but i found that my pipe still has a ton of resin and a tiny amount of half burnt weed and ash in the bowl, i remove as much of the ash as i can manage and break up the dmt on top of it. The bowl consists of 1/2 dmt, 1/2 marijuana. I'm happy with this bowl, it looks like it should give one nice, big lung full. I get up and plug my phone in so i can inform my friend whom i'm going to introduce to dmt that i'm gonna give it a trial run and also ask her if she wants to try it sometime (she expressed a few weeks ago how bad she wants to try dmt). I walk to the bathroom, i empty my bowels. I sit back down on the computer and begin searching for some good psytrance for this special occasion. It's not a minute before i knock my pipe full of drugs off my desk onto my lap. The majority of the dmt had fallen out of the bowl. I recovered most of it from my lap and on my chair, i decide to add another .10 mg to it just to make sure i can actually test it out, in case there was a piece that fell that i couldn't find. Worse comes to worse i'm trying 40mg instead of 30mg :D lol. Will continue later when i do more stuff lol.

Continued: I shower, i change into a robe, i empty the bowl and i break the dmt down into eraser-shaving-sized fragments, i reload the bowl and the weed, i find a good song to listen to, i find this one. i add some dubstep to my playlist to come after it. i sit down on my bed with my bowl in hand. i click play on the song and begin trying to toke it up. turns out, my pipe was clogged from last weekend, i suck harder trying to pull the smoke through. finally the resin and ash gives letting me light the dmt. the weed burns immediately and i get a mouthfull of smoke, blow it out, i relight it up and it turns out the dmt just evaporated, burned and the rest sizzled away down the toilet of my pipe and that was it. I blew it out, hoping, waiting for dimitri to take me away. i close my eyes, i see the outline of a tree. i try to will it to morph, it turns into the outline of a butterfly, i try again and the butterfly fades away. blackness. i open my eyes realizing what had happened. I told my friend what happened and was told to wait an hour and try again, allowing my tolerance to build and also allowing me to find a way to smoke it properly. I look it up and find "sandwhiching" and how to light it so it doesnt burn. This time i put a screen on my pipe, it has trouble sticking but whatever. I'm out of weed so i throw some oregano on the bottom. i measure out 60mg of dmt, i wrap it in a big screen, i place it on top of the oregano. i throw more oregano on top. Now it's prepared! I wait an hour. After an hour...

Halfway into the rabbit hole?: I sit back down on my bed, open my window, restart the music. I put the pipe to my mouth and i look at it, ready to light it. "I think im prepared" i think to myself. I light it and suck lightly, the flame doesnt physically touch the bowl, it just gets 10 millimeters away from the substance which ignites the oregano. The first hit and a half is all oregano, i finnally get down to the goodies at this point. This 60mg balls begins bubbling and i suddenly run out of air to inhale, i exhale and get half a lung full of dmt. I hold it in for 15 seconds, quickly exhale and light it again without taking a breath... another half of a lung full... i put down my pipe and hold it in, i'm getting a buzzing feeling in my brain but i dont hear buzzing, just music. I wait for it to take me away, it doesnt, i have mild CEV's. I quickly pick the pipe back up and take 2 tokes, holding them both in. After the 2nd toke i decided i didnt want a broken pip so i set it back down. I'm still holding in my breath when i close my eyes, i start to experience the drug... I dont exactly see with colors, i sense everything as if i were blind or something. I sense the universe hurling around me, i get tapped on the shoulder (or i feel the presence of someone trying to touch my shoulder, rather) by dimitri. He is wearing a clad red tuxedo, slacks and he has no head, just a suit and hands. As soon as i even begin to analyze who this hallucination is, it all disappears. It seems that when i try to think about anything while on this low of a dose, my attention is on whatever im thinking about and my reality shifts back to the one im fond of. As soon as i realized this, i tried to allow dimitri to take control of my trip but i couldnt let go of this reality =/. I try not to think. I let visuals flash in front of me, i see colorful stuff morphing into other colorful stuff which envelopes my entire being. Not like a fractal, it's like i become one with whatever im trying to imagine (i dont wanna call this hallucinating because im influencing it consciously), the energy of whatever idea im trying to think of envelopes me and becomes my reality. I was familiar with this feeling from lucy.

Just a note: in hindsight i only burned about half of it - 30mg of the 60.

I kept thinking about dmt, how to let him in. I finally decided that my brain (what dimitri was trying to enter) was like a library or a computer... And this computer is filled with information (how to see, what is 2+2, what do i believe in, what makes up my reality, who am i), and it's all in my brain. And I, not me, not my self am the observer of this brain, the mouse cursor, the person reading the books. And I am the only one with the pass code to access each one of these books or files. It's like I am embedded in each neuron that i've passed through or wherever my brain has ever lit up at (neurons firing). And dimitri wants access to all of these files so he can meld with them and influence I and me and my self because all 3 live in the brain. I decided the only way to give him the pass code would be to literally look at dimitri in his suit and say "i trust you, and it's okay to come in", he never really did though, i helped guide him through my "library" and he pointed things out for me, things i never noticed.

I kept having this problem, i still can't explain it fully. You know how when you meditate you can become aware of your thought process? Well i'm capable of remaining in that state for forever. And i do. And i was aware of me - my thought process - meeting dmt but i wasn't allowing dmt to merge with me. It's like as soon as he was about to let me break through... it was okay to think but i would translate my thought process from my brain's natural thinking ways to english and in doing so i was losing my natural self and focusing on the language center of my brain. Or i would become aware of whatever what was going on, aware of the reality outside of this one. Both of those things would shoo the trip away. Is there any way to get around this?

Dont get me wrong, i had some amazing insights on god, myself, my guilt, it's origins, solutions, my brain, how it functions, etc. I just want to be able to enjoy DMT fully. maybe this can be solved by trying to focus my attention outward rather than inward. I still have about 20-40 mg in the bowl and i wanna sleep in the next hour so i wont be doing more tonight. it'll have to wait.

-Just uh, any tips getting the crap to light so it turns to smoke faster and i dont have to take 6 hits to feel mild effects? it's like... by the time i would get the dmt to start bubbling i would be at 7/8 full in my lungs and i would have to exhale and the dmt would cool back down.
-And any tips on letting go of this reality and letting dimitri take over?
 
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Make changa!... Or else really make sure you sandwich it in two layers of herb (mullien leaf is cheap) and use a bubbler. Use a screen if you are low on herb, but make sure you have some kind of herb in there. Trust me using a bubbler will REALLY help you get the hit you need to take. I have rarely succeeded without a bubbler, while a bubbler with hemp wick has been a sure shot every time. Rolling it in a joint is also possible, but EXTEEMLY hard to get it to burn right without destroying it while you are holding it in.

Just think about it you'll figure out a way with what you know
 
Put a whole stack of gauzes in your pipe and melt the dmt into it by lightly waiving a flame around the bowl. Then when you take a hit, it will vape and not burn.
 
Put a whole stack of gauzes in your pipe and melt the dmt into it by lightly waiving a flame around the bowl. Then when you take a hit, it will vape and not burn.

WTF Gauzes are you kidding me? I am trying to recommend herbs to smoke it with... Even recommend making changa. Not just cannabis, but also inactive and easy to buy in bulk mullein. What they hell are you trying to do send him into a bad trip by doing something completely unhealthy for oneself while trying to put themselves through what could be the most intense experience of your life????

Really think before you post anon0631
 
I assume he means metal gauzes, like pipe screens. That's a very common way of smoking DMT.

They're not going to be any worse for you than burning mullein will be.
 
I assume he means metal gauzes, like pipe screens. That's a very common way of smoking DMT.

They're not going to be any worse for you than burning mullein will be.

^This. I dont know if you thought he meant medical gauze/bandaging, because thats the only gauze other then metal screens i can think of. And i dont know why you'd jump to that conclusion.

Really think before you post bayhead415...
 
I meant metal gauze, IE pipe screens. I find steel to be cleaner than brass which burns an lets off some sort of vapour after a while.
 
^This. I dont know if you thought he meant medical gauze/bandaging, because thats the only gauze other then metal screens i can think of. And i dont know why you'd jump to that conclusion.

Really think before you post bayhead415...

Dude if I can mistake it anyone can... I thought well enough... I never hear screens refered to a "guaze." Maybe people use STAINLESS steel scrubbers or a stainless steel screen, but never gauze. People need to be specific so mistakes aren't made and not blame the person who was confused by the unclear statement....

If he said stainless steel gauze there might have been a difference..

Really... Klondike think before you criticize someone else as I made a simple misunderstanding ANYONE could have made... Even the person trying to smoke the DMT.
 
Maybe its a UK thing. Or maybe I'm old and that's what we called them in the 90's. Either way thanks for pointing out the ambiguity but go easy on people :-)
 
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