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Psychedelic users in Australia

This is almost the exact same situation as me. I am 17 and surrounded by meth heads and people who use pills to "fucken trip hard mate" and im kind of over the whole pill thing. I still love them although the comedown kills me now. This is why i have been using more and more psychedelics (well, the little that i can find in these un enlightened eastern suburbs), and i love them so much more compared to party drugs, but im part of a minority in melbourne as i am nothing like your stereotypical melbourne raver pumped with steroids and my collar up.
 
Very interesting subject. I am a psychedelic user and have lots of friends who are psychonauts as you put it. But I also hang around alot of mainstream people as well who don't use drugs except weed but are still really cool people but I keep my psychedelic use not hidden but discrete from them. But I don't hang around many if any mainstream drug users for some reason.

The doof scene is a good place to meet good quality psych users, you'd be suprised how many trippers of the non-hippy variety that goto doofs.

I agree with zaineaol.nu too, seek and you will find eventually you wouldn't beleive what is out there ;)
 
I say young psychedelic users unite!!!! woop woop! then we can start recruiting people over from the hard trance scene! because once you go psychedelic you never go back:D
 
lots of youngin's in this thread...

As i mentioned before, just wait til the psycs come to you - it'll all be clear then ;)...
 
there does seem to be a divide between the 'chemical' drug users and those who use psychedelics. About half way through the year me and a friend went to a hardtrance club in melbourne near spencer street (we aren't really into hardtrance but were in the area) and it was full of pretty much sythetic drug users and none of the one's I spoke to seemed to be into acid (instead enjoying their chemicals like pills, ice, K and GHB). There also seems to be a lot of fear and ignorance surrounding acid in these hardtrance scenes but even more so in the more mainstream house scene. Alot of it has to do with what is conducive to the music. MDMA and speed can go with any type of dance music and scene, as your not really propne to being introspective or self-conscious on these drugs. And in the fashion orientated House scene it is very easy to get self-conscious even with a straight head! In the House scene it seems to be more pills and coke anyway, and in my opinion the House scene is full of pretentious wankers who I wouldd'nt want to be around on acid anyway.
The Hardtrance scence and I believe to a lesser extent the doof scene seems to have its own pretentiousness but it is abit less obvious. Hardtrance has alot of snobbery over shuffling and whether a person is wearing phatties or not. The Doof scene seems to be a bit more music savvy and hence abit more snobby about this. As the doof scene is gaining popularity people are seeming to be abit resentful to the more mainstream people and kandykids coming into the scene.
Anyway trance scene is dominated with chemical users, House and mainstream is more pills and for the richer people coke and doofs seems to be psychedelic and pill users. IMO users of psycedelics are often older and often a abit better educated than those who are into the hardtrance scene and like to get fucked up on the weekends on their chems (this is a generalisation and it does sound a bit snobby I know, but it is what I perceive.)
 
hmmm...no divide like that over here in new zealand...at least within the hard dance scene people get into a bit of whatever
 
ah, all ya young'uns will grow out of it ;-) and when you are ready, you will find that psychedelics are absolutely everywhere.

labels are just that. wearing a certain type of clothing or hair does not make you a psychedelics user. caveat - phat pants make you look like an idiot no matter where you go. travel, travel, travel.
 
I think it may be because acid is generally a drug taken around doofs...or at least not in the middle of sydney (mostly), so in the middle of sydney you wouldnt really find a definite clad of acidheads, only one here and there that come together in the bush to party! I also find that my pill popper friends (whove never tried psychs) have this real "nah don't go there" attitude about acid. anyone else find this?
 
I think to begin with I used psychedelics just to get messed up.
Moving on several years now that has certainly evolved into something much more intelligent. Funny that someone says the psychedelics arent in the upmarket clubs. I'd be surprised if they are in any cept for doof-type club nights. It's just not the thing to do. Outdoors, ppl.
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Likewise, when I took acid for the first time it was for the high, as I hadnt experienced psychedelics and couldnt be prepared for the awakening I would recieve. I prefer them to the highs of things like X and ice (although I still like these) as they seem more 3 dimensional than these stimulants. I've only tried acid and 2cb in relation to hallucinagens (I guess you could even consider ketamine as some form of hallucinagen but imo its a drug unlike any other), both of these drugs were amazing at all times in which Ive tried it

I definitely have to agree with the outdoors idea, whenever I have tripped it's been outdoors or at a party, whenever Im outdoors or in some sort of nature reserve (forest, park etc) I tend to have a better experience and understand more. I use to take hallucinagens for the high too but after a couple of very enlightening experiences its very much about how much I can learn as to how much I can get fucked up.
 
im from Perth and find that my friends and I dont have a particular drug of choice. using a mix of psychedelics and "mainstream" drugs, depending on the occasion and atmosphere. :)
 
^^same here, i do psychedelics because i find them fun..but thats just me, i'm interested in other aspects of them but for now it's just fun and i enjoy tripping...
 
Im a psychedelics person, I dont feel like "the door" hasnt opened to me yet though - i've had some insightful experiences, but none have stayed with me after a trip.

all my friends are just meth/pill/k/g takers. I would love to find more psychedelic people but its not happening at the moment.

I'm still young (19), hopefully the door will open to me eventually! Im waiting....
 
Unfortunately for me, most of my friends are not into the drug scene at all(alcohol and pot seems to be the limit) A couple however, are into E, yet they seem unable to help me launch into the psychedelic scene.

I guess thats what I get for been rather introverted :)
 
Itd be alot easier if hippies didnt seem so judgemental of people who dont wear rags and have dreads.

I said SEEM - even though they dont mean to be that way, they come across like that. (or at least have in my experience)
 
i enjoy synthetic drugs (MDxx, meth, k, g) but my heart really belongs to psychedelics. i have friends who like them but would probably rather have a couple of pills than a decent trip. they take acid and shrooms for the visuals not for what they can discover. they would never have a trip alone or be the only one in the group.

anyway its only 5 months till shroom season! id better get saying my nightly prayers for an early, wet and cold winter...
 
Usually everyone just wants to get wasted and live up the high on.x.g.wizz. Cid is alot more of a intracate liquid then your normal club drug, not alot of people can accept the engrossing world of psychs because simple minds cannot handel complex hallucinations. Or even the enlightening jibberish that lurks inside ones head.
I am a cid users, I don't do it lots because i find it too potent to do often (12 hours is way too long for a drug to make you trip). But since starting cid, I imagine what everything would be like on it. Like to never watch Ren and Stimpy on acid.
The next best thing about taking it, is feeling awesome the next day. I guess thats how you can tell the purity of a drug...
Wellp, there is my 5cents for the day.
And where is this 3rd level trippin club? Sounds interesting...
 
psytaco said:
In the House scene it seems to be more pills and coke anyway, and in my opinion the House scene is full of pretentious wankers who I wouldd'nt want to be around on acid anyway. QUOTE]

^^^^ haha couldnt have said it any better mate =D
I'm personally over Pills as they make me feel as if i have just poisoned my Confidence/Self Esteem.
Never taken Acid by myself, but doing it with good friends is the greatest.
I can't imagine being around ppl that i don't like, I think i would run away lol:p

I'm mostly into Broken Beat and IDM but have a soft spot with Psy/Goa trance from some fantastic ppl ive met.
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I live in Melbourne and tried Mescaline (San Pedro- two 12" cacti brewed into tea) a couple of weeks ago. It was my first psychedelic trip and might be my last....maybe. This isn't because I had a bad trip or a weak trip. It was just because hallucinating isn't that fun.

That's not saying that I didn't have some freaking cool hallucinations, it's just that I found once I was tripping all I could think was 'is that all?' Even while experiencing an intensely euphoric MDMA like euphoria it still felt bland and uninteresting, mainly because it was a let down for what I had expected a psychedelic trip to be like.

I can see how people could make it into something life changing but I think they are just trying too hard to make it into something it's not. It's good to try but I personally don't think it's anything that great.

Now, when you look at drugs like speed/ice, coke and pills these are drugs that you can go out and use at a club with mates, feel really clear in the head, and have an absolute blast socialising and dancing the night away. They may not be as intense as psychedelics, but in my opinion they are much more fun.

But hey, thats just me, to each their own.
 
I can see how people could make it into something life changing but I think they are just trying too hard to make it into something it's not.
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I think its the other way around, if you dont expect anything from it, you will be surprised how deep it can be, but if you sit around waiting for some stupid cliched visual hallucinations, you will probably be dissappointed. Its very much about letting go of your ideas of how it should be, and just "feeling" it. I know i took acid about 5 times before I finally felt like i had experienced it properly.
 
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That's given me motivation to give mescaline a second chance because I guess I did have warped expectations of what tripping would be like, and yeah that did feed my disappointment. It's mostly the media's fault, they make out hallucinating to be an extremely delirious state of mind (which it sort of is) when it's actually more subtle like seeing images in the lines of floorboards, patterns on the walls and lots and lots of swirling colours.

I still don't think psychedelics would be good for clubs though, it's just too hard to talk to people and it's much more interesting being outside in the daytime rather than in a confined place at night (I'm sure lasers would look amazing tho).
 
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