jesus christ calm down, take a breath, don't take things so personally, I am not insulting you or your chemical saviour, just bringing up some things that I personally overlooked even though I claimed to be all for harm reduction and a psychonaut, etc...and I've seen many others do the same..
if you think people are just as impressionable when sober than while on psychedelics, you are sadly mistaken and I am sorry but are getting some shitty quality psychedelics... thats half the fun of it - the accidential imprinting that happens in a group. But imagine that, with some people who are aware of that and familiar with the psychedelic headspace.. it happens, I am telling you.. I am sorry you do not get out enough or something but this IS HAPPENING. I am not talking about directly telling someone to "go worship the devil" i am talking about more subliminal methods of putting ideas and thoughts into one's subconscious at the same time as channeling spirits at you, I do not think you quite understand what I am talking about at some of these gatherings.. I know I sound crazy... Even if you don't believe in the spiritual stuff, there is still the scientific part of playing a frequency your brain associates with fear, then playing a sample you cannot hear very well with different forms of fearful ideas with terrorized screaming in the background and an intense fast dark trance beat in the background all so loud there is no where to get away from it while you are on psychdelics - they can induce all sorts of different experiances... Now they could also equally play a frequency associated with love or bliss and then play all sorts of beauitiful things and samples you can't really hear to put good thoughts in your head and induce a good things.. they take you on a whole experiance over the weekend... many of them try to induce their version of 'spiritual awakening' others try to help people confront and face their fears, but I have seen a few that try to induce insanity/schizophrenia...
I am not "Dogging on the entire scene".... I have said specifically multiple times that many of these people are good and have good intentions and that there are plenty of them that are just gatherings of people, however I am simply bringing to light the possibility of this happening....
I am promoting PEACE, but I am also promoting inner-personal growth and spiritual evolution as well as CHANGE, such as establishing small communities everywhere that are self-sustaining, or establishing new routes to the source and sharing, spiritual evolution and growth, things of this nature. Or doing SOMETHING besides sitting on the street begging for change which is exactly what 75% of those 'dirty kids' at the gathering DO. Trust me, I WAS ONE.
What you don't seem to realize is that I AM ONE OF YOU. I am a spiritual person, I have experianced beauitiful things on psychedelics.. I think they are good. I love festivals, heck, I help organize festivals, they are wonderful things - refugee camps for humanity. However, I am bringing to light that there are others that organize some of these events that are giving specific intense and manipulative overtoans to the festival - not nessicarily a bad thing although many seem to be focused on darker things...
Also, I agree, society is just as brainwashing, TV is very evil. I agree with the social conditioning being done through it and it tears me apart inside knowing people I love watch that shit... and it makes me thing... if they have such a powerful tool, shouldn't the opposing force have an equally as powerful brainwashing (de-brainwashing??) tool? And thats exactly what happens at some of these psytrance festivals, forcefed sped up mental and spiritual evolution through ritual, trance music to induce a trance, brainwave manipulation, and dancing, and it seems to work regardless of whether or not people are on psychedelics. Bring a random person there, 3 days later, boom AWAKENED.
Though the thing I have a problem with is many of them cut their shit with a bunch of darkness and evil shit towards the end of the getherings or some are even solely focused on that type of shit..
Allow me to give you an example of a dark psytrance song.... :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZCI1rzPp5J4 <- i would suggest look at this one first before the other links as its actually a good song.... (Imagine this, but on a super loud sound system while you are on psychedelics in the middle of the woods as well as an altar from a ritual with palpable energy being released and everyone around you acting differently and echoing a certain aspect of experiance just as spiders do with different frequencies or water crystals with different intentions) I do not know if that artist is using random frequencies or specifically tuned ones, but I have spoken with at least one artist who shared this list with me:
http://www.lunarsight.com/freq.htm
another few examples, an obvious amateur making this shit:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6fv7EygZBA0 (not very subtle)
another example of a decent song with overtones:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dpT2-0OfjCg
now these are all darkpsy songs as that is what we were discussing... anyway these are not as impressive unless live and with a ritual channeling energy at the same time and a group of people that are under the impression of this shit as it creates the atmosphere and the ideas are bouncing around amongst the group..
many times the overtones are about psychdelics and spiritual awakening, other times they focus on abstract religious ideals, many times with thelematic or even christian overtones around here, sometimes very dark and focusing on fear, the devil, black magick, the idea of evil...dark ideals...
of course most of the larger groups are GOOD people and its the odd festival out that has a large group of DJ's with bad intent but there seems to be a good amount of people across the globe obsessed with the idea of dark psychedelic spirituality and spreading it around... i.e. groups like malice in wonderland, etc..
