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Proof Cocaine Has Changed

I don’t have experience over many years or decades like some of you have but in a short time I was using far than “healthy amounts” of coke I had opportunity to use coke that was with more natural alkaloids and with insignificant amounts but with some levamisole less and I liked weaker stuff without levamisole more (it was still above 90%). Significantly more people loved stronger stuff with levamisole, might be because of my view of such practice and placebo but I’m pretty sure that isn’t all.
 
Silly question but is there a bad way to snort cocaine? Recently not getting the effect used to get. I did snort it and it all disappeared from the table but effect not the same as previously.

Thanks
 
I'm an in frequent user of Coke(other than 2yrs heavy crack and IV use circa 07'), who has also been to Medellin, Colombia 4x's and I honestly don't find coke to have changed that much since the mid 90's. I mean obviously it changes from dealer to dealer sometimes. Im gonna be honest and say that there hasn't been much difference other than price point of the cocaine I do almost everyday im in Medellin and the cocaine I get here in Florida. Sometimes the cocaine has actually been better in Florida even if it has been more consistent from Medellin. Cant beat that $2.50 for about a gram in Medellin though. I don't know. Just thought I'd add my anecdote.
 
Interestingly, nitracaine when smoked was pretty close to cocaine in it's effects. The makers screwed up by producing the hydrochloride salt... which wasn't very soluble and so impossible to snort. Clofenciclan is actually a more powerful agent and I'm told that IV administration produces a 'bell ringer' I hear people mention when they discuss that ROA.

Personally I don't like cocaine. It just puts me in a bad mood but I made 'The Ersatz Thing' by dissolving half a gram of nitracaine into a 1l bottle of coke and it was, for me, exactly like 'The Real Thing' i.e. dissolving a gram of OKish cocaine into 1l of coke.

I never tried amfonelic acid but from what I read it's onset it slower and duration longer. Also vastly more complex to make than the other two synthetics I mentioned. I would be very surprised if we don't see cocaine cut with clofenciclan (or nitracaine sulfate/phosphate) as they both snort OK and will, I believe, survive the freebasing process... well clofenciclan will, certainly.
 
I prefer 'better living through pharmacology'!! 😁
I'll settle for better living :)

Concerning Coke and precursor's the one that imo missus is Khat. To me it felt better then the good old Cocaine that was standard over here at that times. A lot wilI probably disagree but the Khat high actually felt better. No need for Alcohol. The abilty to sleep afterwards. Basickly I switched my addiction, and saved my ass and a whole lot of money during. And got funny look's when people watched me chew on a bundle of fresh twigs.

A whole spectrum extract of that and a lot more people would take it. There are fresh Khat smoothies available in Israel. It's the stabily of Cathinone that probably the main problem. Loved reading those American story's about Meth-Cathinone. They resembled the Khat experience, a sloppy stimulant high.
 
I'm an in frequent user of Coke(other than 2yrs heavy crack and IV use circa 07'), who has also been to Medellin, Colombia 4x's and I honestly don't find coke to have changed that much since the mid 90's. I mean obviously it changes from dealer to dealer sometimes. Im gonna be honest and say that there hasn't been much difference other than price point of the cocaine I do almost everyday im in Medellin and the cocaine I get here in Florida. Sometimes the cocaine has actually been better in Florida even if it has been more consistent from Medellin. Cant beat that $2.50 for about a gram in Medellin though. I don't know. Just thought I'd add my anecdote.
I agree, I grew up in Orlando..They had great yayo...EHS '89 UCF '95
 
I'm an in frequent user of Coke(other than 2yrs heavy crack and IV use circa 07'), who has also been to Medellin, Colombia 4x's and I honestly don't find coke to have changed that much since the mid 90's. I mean obviously it changes from dealer to dealer sometimes. Im gonna be honest and say that there hasn't been much difference other than price point of the cocaine I do almost everyday im in Medellin and the cocaine I get here in Florida. Sometimes the cocaine has actually been better in Florida even if it has been more consistent from Medellin. Cant beat that $2.50 for about a gram in Medellin though. I don't know. Just thought I'd add my anecdote.

This thread was talking about cocaine of the 70’s and 80’s.. By the 90’s cocaine had changed according to the old timers I speak with.

-GC
 
Crap. Stronger, but still does what I assume cocaine does. I was given a few grams, tried it and gave it all away. Not my thing at all.

Crack is just the same apart from massive anxiety and a wish for the effects to just stop.

The number of times people have offered me coke, I politely refuse and they seem... agitated. Then without fail they point out that it's free. I just leave. I don't want to be around people on coke, they are not good company. MDMA seems OK, H & weed and they are just dull.
 
Crap. Stronger, but still does what I assume cocaine does. I was given a few grams, tried it and gave it all away. Not my thing at all.

Crack is just the same apart from massive anxiety and a wish for the effects to just stop.

The number of times people have offered me coke, I politely refuse and they seem... agitated. Then without fail they point out that it's free. I just leave. I don't want to be around people on coke, they are not good company. MDMA seems OK, H & weed and they are just dull.
So Ur saying it's stronger and that's not a good thing?
 
I guess if you like coke it was good. All I know is that snorting it, I just feel anxious and keep on trying to swallow because it feels like their is saliva in the back of your mouth.

I've NEVER enjoyed cocaine.
 
What is it like now in the 20s

I’d say it’s the best now that it’s been in my time on this planet.

My dad who’s kind of my gauge for this stuff, said the last batch we got was the closest to the 70’s and 80’s he’s ever done. To me, it was the best I’d ever done.

-GC
 
I'm an in frequent user of Coke(other than 2yrs heavy crack and IV use circa 07'), who has also been to Medellin, Colombia 4x's and I honestly don't find coke to have changed that much since the mid 90's. I mean obviously it changes from dealer to dealer sometimes. Im gonna be honest and say that there hasn't been much difference other than price point of the cocaine I do almost everyday im in Medellin and the cocaine I get here in Florida. Sometimes the cocaine has actually been better in Florida even if it has been more consistent from Medellin. Cant beat that $2.50 for about a gram in Medellin though. I don't know. Just thought I'd add my anecdote.
I can confirm this, here in SA cocaine has always been/still is good. It's only abroad that u get bashed to fuck/bunk product or hard/expensive to score the good stuff.
Same here in Perú, from 2.5$-5$ a G depending on quality and the contacts u have.
 
I’d say it’s the best now that it’s been in my time on this planet.

My dad who’s kind of my gauge for this stuff, said the last batch we got was the closest to the 70’s and 80’s he’s ever done. To me, it was the best I’d ever done.

-GC
Just couple months ago I did some blow that I'd say was 9.5/10( and just cause perfection doesn't exist).
 
I can confirm this, here in SA cocaine has always been/still is good. It's only abroad that u get bashed to fuck/bunk product or hard/expensive to score the good stuff.
Same here in Perú, from 2.5$-5$ a G depending on quality and the contacts u have.

Praat jy Nederlands of Afrikaans? Ek het twee jaar naby Amsterdam gewoon sodat ek meestal albei tale kan verstaan. Ek hou van die klein ekstra woorde in Afrikaans - so nuttig.
 
Praat jy Nederlands of Afrikaans? Ek het twee jaar naby Amsterdam gewoon sodat ek meestal albei tale kan verstaan. Ek hou van die klein ekstra woorde in Afrikaans - so nuttig.
I meant south America not south Africa. 😄
 
Now you can synthesize cocaine yourself or in an industrial ghetto, by adding 24 moles of carbon to a sealed container and pumping a sealed container full of air to like 75 to 150 psi or more and stirring it or shaking. Like a jar with a pressure gauge or tubes and a valve. Carbon weight 12 grams a mole. That’s how simple it is it can be made in less than a few minutes after weighing and adding it in there and pumping and then shaking or stirring it while it’s under positive pressure. Positive is pushing air in and negative is sucking it all out.

You have to use atomized carbon from putting carbon under intense negative vacuum pressure and heating it and shaking or stirring the sealed container. Or by electrocuting the carbon under vacuum pressure or magnetic fields pushing the atoms apart.

You don’t want to use a magnesium stir bar because it throws reactions off by being like a catalyst, you can use it or steel inside of sealed glass. You can also use steel but you want to use palladium or no catalyst for standard chemistry unless you have a guided synthesis. Different catalyst make different stuff happen and silicon or silicon dioxide is kind of a catalyst. That’s usually what flasks were made of, a catalyst may just speed up a reaction or make it require less heat.

A small amount can be made with 2880 mg of carbon but it’ll weigh less than 2880 mg coke because the gases make the carbon lighter if it’s not oxygen because they pull the carbon upward and oxygen pulls it down, so meth heads liked hydrogen bonds that can be carcinogenic they got more molecules of meth for the same price.

it’s the perfect amount of carbon to form that molecule. You don’t necessarily have to use certain gases the chemical formula way, it’s possible to turn any molecule into a carbohydrate but it could be dangerous if more or less effective.

You can also do this to synthesize peptides like human growth hormone from amino acids by adding one mole of an amino acid for each individual amino acid on its sequence and it takes around one minute for each to attach to the macromolecule meaning for a higher yield but you need to watch the reaction take place.

You can synthesize many molecules like this. This is why industrial ghetto life kind of went on or farming did and food was just carb pods by the buildings. No one liked being kidnapped. That became freedom and was sort of a living hell or we were happy if no one else was near by us in Detroit or the state or region. It was very ghetto and didn’t rely on importing drugs. But occasionally it did. Detroit was the original industrial place that even China or Mongolia was in. We entertained everyone too much that fraud and shipments of regular stuff didn’t go on and disease was spread to make it all continue, and they all lived grocery shopping and going to restaurants or maybe porn. Social media made houses and apartments exist to everyone that didn’t stay on a cash basis without the banks that weren’t just a safe and lock.
I would report this for synthesis discussion but its so incredibly wrong on so many levels and makes zero sense that I cannot do that in good faith. Holy crap
 
I would report this for synthesis discussion but its so incredibly wrong on so many levels and makes zero sense that I cannot do that in good faith. Holy crap

Now you can synthesize cocaine yourself or in an industrial ghetto, by adding 24 moles of carbon to a sealed container and pumping a sealed container full of air to like 75 to 150 psi or more and stirring it or shaking. Like a jar with a pressure gauge or tubes and a valve. Carbon weight 12 grams a mole. That’s how simple it is it can be made in less than a few minutes after weighing and adding it in there and pumping and then shaking or stirring it while it’s under positive pressure. Positive is pushing air in and negative is sucking it all out.

You have to use atomized carbon from putting carbon under intense negative vacuum pressure and heating it and shaking or stirring the sealed container. Or by electrocuting the carbon under vacuum pressure or magnetic fields pushing the atoms apart.

You don’t want to use a magnesium stir bar because it throws reactions off by being like a catalyst, you can use it or steel inside of sealed glass. You can also use steel but you want to use palladium or no catalyst for standard chemistry unless you have a guided synthesis. Different catalyst make different stuff happen and silicon or silicon dioxide is kind of a catalyst. That’s usually what flasks were made of, a catalyst may just speed up a reaction or make it require less heat.

A small amount can be made with 2880 mg of carbon but it’ll weigh less than 2880 mg coke because the gases make the carbon lighter if it’s not oxygen because they pull the carbon upward and oxygen pulls it down, so meth heads liked hydrogen bonds that can be carcinogenic they got more molecules of meth for the same price.

it’s the perfect amount of carbon to form that molecule. You don’t necessarily have to use certain gases the chemical formula way, it’s possible to turn any molecule into a carbohydrate but it could be dangerous if more or less effective.

You can also do this to synthesize peptides like human growth hormone from amino acids by adding one mole of an amino acid for each individual amino acid on its sequence and it takes around one minute for each to attach to the macromolecule meaning for a higher yield but you need to watch the reaction take place.

You can synthesize many molecules like this. This is why industrial ghetto life kind of went on or farming did and food was just carb pods by the buildings. No one liked being kidnapped. That became freedom and was sort of a living hell or we were happy if no one else was near by us in Detroit or the state or region. It was very ghetto and didn’t rely on importing drugs. But occasionally it did. Detroit was the original industrial place that even China or Mongolia was in. We entertained everyone too much that fraud and shipments of regular stuff didn’t go on and disease was spread to make it all continue, and they all lived grocery shopping and going to restaurants or maybe porn. Social media made houses and apartments exist to everyone that didn’t stay on a cash basis without the banks that weren’t just a safe and lock.
Lay off the tweak...
 
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