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5 week pct?
I like doing things in 5's.
5 week pct?
not yet. giving myself some time before I jump in. gaining as much info as I can and waiting a bit for my age (I'm 22) and more training experience along with my finances to get in order. I know ill have to ramp up calories big time and I got a huge federal government debt I need to pay off so money is tight. I don't have the money currently to shell out for aas, supplements, ancillaries, pct, food, etc. I think I got $13 to my name right now (still live off the parents). I wanna be settled for the most part financially which should mean a year or two. no harm in training longer naturally.
I like doing things in 5's.
weight is about 155
body fat estimate is ~15% (don't have calipers)
height is 5' 6"-5' 7"
cycle plan for future is test ace for kick start for a 12-15 week test e cycle. then pct. one hormone to see what my test only side effects are then if I choose. I can toss an oral in during the middle/end of the cycle.
so standard test e/c 2x weekly 250mg injections for 12 weeks should be sufficient? I was curious about that as I read in another thread about using test prop for kickstart and I'd personally want to avoid the injection pain on my first cycle.
Fair play mate, out of interest what's ur weight, bf height and cycle plan (if you have one) ? I'm on the same boat I have very little money and its a big problem with regards to diet ect... Been living on tuna and rice and fast food.. And I also live with the parents. Bullshit like I suggest waiting until you have at least £200 a month for your diet and have all your supps bought and ready to use
I was under the impression that you blast and cruise?
GF I know you always say about the longer esters hitting the blood and peaking within X days, but it simply does not work like that. Yes serum blood levels will peak, though that does not mean any gains will be seen. Some people can wait up to 5 weeks on test e before they start to see any results. The first time I took test e it took about 5 weeks before anything happened, though this time around I was seeing effects after 3-4 weeks.
Dbol and other aromatising kickstarts can be a problem for those prone to gynocomastia though
I would be wary of using a fast acting compound for a kick-start, I believe you get less issues from other hormones with a slow build up.. No point spiking Estrogen from day one if you don't have to.... I know a lot of people do it with orals, but that's my personal view especially for a beginner on a first cycle...
I don't agree with that personel view at all. I don't understand the less issues or spiking estrogen from day one therory. What's the difference of using a kick start or just using a short ester for a cycle? You never use a short ester only? People use Test Prop for the purpose of less estrogen so less bloat theory for cutting cycles.
I mean real world experiance, your levels will be elevated but it doesn't do anything in 90% of cases, gains always come a while later. Read any log online and youl see the same story over and over again
Edit - I'm not sayng your science is wrong, just that gains will not come as soon as your levels are elevated above normal
I only have a phone GF I post everything I post from memory I can't look for studies and whatnot on this shitberry I'm posting from lol.
I am by no means an expert and I know I'm certainly not as informed as you on the subject as far as the science goes
I don't understand what you mean by “once the ester is removed”? I'm talking about test e here not test suspension?
And in my experiance yes, I got 1 real vial last cycle and 2 bunk, blood plasma levels peak at 21 days according to you but strength and weight stayed the same for me until about 30+ days. Saying that, diet wasn't amazing at that point, though not bad enough to gain nothing at all. Was probably taking 3000kcal and 150g protein a day @ 175lbs at that point. Other people I know have various time to wait before their gear kicks in also unless its just from dodgy ugl mixes?
And a question - would splitting 2ml of test e into 2 1ml shots and doing each quad make any difference in absorbtion times? Surface area absorbtion tells me it would be absorbed quicker but I don't know how this would work with an ester?
M1T = Prohormone