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Poppy Seed Tea Withdrawal Is Hell

iamgollum said:
@CfZrx: My advice to you is to stay as far away from poppy seed tea as possible. It can't be controlled--it will take over your life in all the worst ways. The withdrawal is long and hellish. Believe me, I know. I have been in some really tough spots during my 55 years of life, and never have I ever thought I was actually going to die until I went cold turkey from the seeds. Read through my thread before you decide to try it.
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Thanks! Glad I couldn't figure how to make it anyhow :)
 
Hope you are hanging in there? How did the interview go?
I had a hard time with taper after 15 mg or so. It would not take long before I would go dark. 6 hrs at the most. I tried to put everything I needed to do after I dosed so I would be ok. Heck of a way to live life. I’ve noticed that without methadone I have more stamina. It’s not just 6 hrs. Lol right now it’s like 20/22 hrs. I can’t sleep.
today was not a good day for joint, body pain. IDK if it was the weather or what. I just hurt. I pushed through.
Need an update from you........how are you?
 
Wow Yub, you really love your family. That was sweet, but don’t look back. Think we all have regrets.
 
@Debbie: Guess this is Day 13 of the great taper experiment and last day at the 6 oz dose of poppy seeds. Going to do 6 oz in the morning since I am meeting my financial adviser for breakfast and need to be somewhat lucid for that. Dropping to 4 oz in the afternoon/evening, though. Hopefully, it won't be horrible. It seems like the first day or so after dropping, the WD symptoms are pretty strong but then start to even out. But...they are not anything close to the agony/misery I endured last time. At this point, comparing cold turkey to tapering down, the taper has been more bearable. Of course, I am not out of the woods, yet and I have no idea what WD is going to be like when I finally do kick so maybe it is still going to be hell.

I am feeling especially achy today as well with considerable weakness in my legs/knees. I agree that the weather has something to do with it--it is cold, damp, and grey here for about the 10th day in a row. Forget what the sun actually looks like. Supposed to be -5 here tomorrow night, so that will suck--need to find a nice warm beach somewhere. Also, vision seems kind of blurry with a slight ringing in my ears. May just be psychosomatic symptoms knowing that I am going to drop to a lower dose tomorrow.

The interview went OK...actually it really didn't--probably not my best effort. I couldn't get to sleep last night, so about 3:30am I took half of a Trazedone which was not a good idea. I still don't think I fell asleep until around 5:00am so I only had a couple hours of sleep. I was really foggy and out of it, so it was hard to focus on what the guy was saying. Also, he had a really ugly tie on and I kept focusing on that for some reason.

Even with your aches/pains and insomnia--you are doing great and kicking ass. You should be very proud of yourself. Just stay focused. Were you able to get the time off issue taken care of at work? I hope so--sounds like complete BS and stress you don't need or deserve right now.
 
I think going zero after taper will not be pleasant, but.......not as bad, but someone else should chime in.
Trazadone makes me groggy, doesnt seem to help with sleep. You are doing well with taper. It would be hard if you have it RIGHT THERE. Tempting. Good job.
If nothing else coming off opiates has let me find my mouth. Cause my boss got an ear full. Not excepting a Dr note should’ve been done before I hit the clock. I should not have been allowed to work until release, then the hippa law. All that. If I wasnt retiring soon, I would take to labor. Still might if they push it. Can’t lose my retirement.
-5? You must live in northern area. Heck we are expected to get to 12, they actually had a pain report on news. Said Sunday will be bad for those suffering with arthritis. Is that a good thing? I think it would be better surprised with pain than anticipated.
Keep us updated
 
Hey IAG,

Thinking of you, I think today is day 16 of your taper? How are you doing? I hope the achiness has subsided. You sleeping ok?

I would love to hear an update when you have time.

Really proud of you!!!

Here if you need anything.
Your friend,
Ash.
 
Hey there. I can share my knowledge of pst if anyone has any questions. I have been using it for several years. I switched from pods to tea years ago when the bottom fell out with the pod market. Now pod prices are out of sight. I have local bakeries and co-ops that currently have stellar seeds. That changes regularly, as their sources do, or they outright refuse to sell me more because the amount I buy on a regular basis raises eyebrows.
I went through detox recently and am fresh out of rehab and en route to a sober living facility. A five-day Subutex taper was adequate and the paws are minimal. My seed habit was more or less under control at two pounds every other day, but I thought I would nip it in the bud while I still could. Heroin withdrawal has nothing on oral opium withdrawal. It is pure hell and lasts much longer, upwards of five weeks if you have a serious habit.
But all that is over. Now. I cannot speak for tomorrow.
 
Day 15 of the taper. I think it's Day 15...honestly I haven't really been counting too closely which I think illustrates a huge difference between tapering down and going cold turkey. Last time I just watched each painful second tick by for about 3 weeks before I stopped focusing on it. I dropped to 4 oz doses twice a day on Saturday afternoon and well...that did not work out very well. I made it through Saturday night, but woke up at 4:00am Sunday feeling really bad--a lot of anxiety, cold sweats, chills/tremors, pounding headache. I wouldn't say I felt CT-level bad, but definitely not good. I did another 4 oz of the tea, but it really didn't do much to help. I laid around until about 3 pm and my legs and lower back started aching. I decided I needed a stronger dose so did two cups of the 4 oz tea (which theoretically should have been an 8 oz dose). That seemed to take care of the WD symptoms for the most part although I had a pounding headache all day. I went to bed around 11:00 and again woke up today around 4 am not feeling great so went back to 6 oz of the tea and have not had any since. I'm not sure what all of that means exactly--apparently, my brain/body is not ready for the 4 oz dose. I think I can try 5 oz doses, but that will take some remeasuring to figure out. The whole thing doesn't seem very scientific so I am kind of amazed that the change from 6 to 4 oz had that big of an effect. Or, maybe it is just psychosomatic and I think I need the stronger dose. Actually getting tired of messing with it and think it may be time to just jump off and stop drinking it altogether.
 
I know tapering totally sucks as does WDs, but you're doing so great and are SO close to quitting. Jump off! Take a few days (well let's be honest it's a week) and start that 3 week clock until you really feel like a human again. I know how it is, when you've been through it it's impossible to think about being in that mindset for such a long time, but I really think you're drawing out your symptoms like this and truly making it worse for yourself.

But that's my opinion and as long as you don't quit quitting you'll be good. Stay strong buddy!

- Honeybadger don't care
 
iamgollum said:
Day 15 of the taper. I think it's Day 15...honestly I haven't really been counting too closely which I think illustrates a huge difference between tapering down and going cold turkey. Last time I just watched each painful second tick by for about 3 weeks before I stopped focusing on it. I dropped to 4 oz doses twice a day on Saturday afternoon and well...that did not work out very well. I made it through Saturday night, but woke up at 4:00am Sunday feeling really bad--a lot of anxiety, cold sweats, chills/tremors, pounding headache. I wouldn't say I felt CT-level bad, but definitely not good. I did another 4 oz of the tea, but it really didn't do much to help. I laid around until about 3 pm and my legs and lower back started aching. I decided I needed a stronger dose so did two cups of the 4 oz tea (which theoretically should have been an 8 oz dose). That seemed to take care of the WD symptoms for the most part although I had a pounding headache all day. I went to bed around 11:00 and again woke up today around 4 am not feeling great so went back to 6 oz of the tea and have not had any since. I'm not sure what all of that means exactly--apparently, my brain/body is not ready for the 4 oz dose. I think I can try 5 oz doses, but that will take some remeasuring to figure out. The whole thing doesn't seem very scientific so I am kind of amazed that the change from 6 to 4 oz had that big of an effect. Or, maybe it is just psychosomatic and I think I need the stronger dose. Actually getting tired of messing with it and think it may be time to just jump off and stop drinking it altogether.
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Gollum i think you should jump but that just my view.I really think you sould get some meds that will help with the worst of wd like anxiety and sleep.Use them for only 4 or five days they do help a lot i keep saying lyrica and even thought i got addicted to it but it helped me detox a 20 year plus pod addict.Use it 5 days max no more please its a basterd to withdraw from for some.
 
Don't think bad of what I said but the taper is still making you feel shitty. Get some time off from your work your the boss. Comfort meds for wd, not a bad thing. I got an old Punjabi recipe for you and will post on here once find out the English names for ingredients. It helps stop the cold shivers in wd
 
I think you should keep tapering. The problem with seeds is dosing isn't an exact science. I know from tapering opiates that as you go lower smaller dose changes have larger effects. So try 5oz. I do think you should get some comfort meds. It will help you taper faster because there will be days where you feel like shit.
 
Haven?t seen anything from you in a few days, hope you?re doing good!

Keep us posted, no offense but this is an amazing deterrent for me (who really really really wants seeds for a 21 hour trip to South America coming up) but am trying to fight the temptation. I do NOT miss coming off the stuff and when I read your posts I can feel how you feel, it was not fun. Sorry not being helpful.

You got this!

- Honeybadger dont care
 
How you doing mate not heard from you on here.Hope everything is going good with the tapering
 
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