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Poppy seed tea. Has anyone given it a try?

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So you poppy tea experts. I have a question for you.

I"ve never got anything of this shit [i really haven't, i'm not a denier who's trying to keep their supply safe]

Never as a kid, and never this year after reading the threads on here. But this is the strange thing I noticed between 2 doses.
I tried the grape fruit method juice wash method, and with first attempt it was very obvious the seeds did not suck in the liquid, as the amount poured in equated to simply feeling the voids between seeds, and also when liquid removed again the poppy seeds has pretty much their same weight.

2nd attempt as I was pouring in the liquid it became immediately obvious the seeds were sucking up the liquid, and I had to pour many many times more liquid in as the seeds were like sponges and when pouring liquid out, the seeds were very very heavy indicating the liquid went in and never came out. The juice was at room temperature on both occasions, and perhaps the 2nd attempt juice was a little warmer [being a warmer day] but it certainly wasn't hot.

I didn't get decent effects from either, but have you guys ever noticed that some batches of seeds are sponges while others don't absorb. And is there any correlation between sponge seeds and non sponge speeds as far as seeds that worked and those that didn't?
I was wondering if some seeds are washed to an extent where their protective shell is removed and thus become sponges, and maybe for health and safety reasons it's possible to consider them duds, but if they don't act like sponges you need to be more careful as the possiblility is they could be active and are less washed?

Just putting it out there. Not saying I"ve stumbled across anything that could determine potency but maybe you experienced people can think back to bad and good batches and tell me if there's any correlation.
 
What sort of method are yo using?

My method is as follows (I havent done it for a while, but it worked well every time):

Empty 2lt pepsi or coke bottle (pepsi is better for this purpose)

Fill bottle with amount of seeds, I used to use 600-800g average but It's wise to start low... 200-300g if you have never done it, for harm reduction purposes you'll thank me later when you don't die from an overdose of some sort.

Once bottle is full (about 1/3 or 1/2 full of seeds), then pour as much pulp free fresh orange juice as possible (until there is 2 inches from the top), you'll get in just under a litre...

Cap bottle off, shake for 3-15 minutes.

Turn bottle upside down, unscrew cap until liquid pours out. Screw it back on a tiny bit, and squeeze the bottle.... your Orange Juice should come out minus the seeds.... you'll get about 3 large cups full (90-95% of the OJ you put in), and yeah.. just drink that up basically. It doesn't taste that bad at all, bit of an aquired taste... it's very nutty/earthy but not really BAD as such....

15-45mins later you will likely feel the effects... I was bad when I used to do it.... double dosing 300-350~mg codeine via CWE at the same time...


EDIT: Obviously if you are using 200-300g seeds then just fill until the level of the bottle is double what it was... you really just need to get the contents moving and mostly a liquid, rather than not putting in enough OJ and having slop lol.
 
Stato said:
What sort of method are yo using?


then pour as much pulp free fresh orange juice as possible (until there is 2 inches from the top), you'll get in just under a litre...
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i agree with most of your method. except for this bit. To potentiate pst, one should use Grape fruit Juice. Also put in a litre of juice is wayyyyyyyyyy too much to drink yo. My reconmendation is add just enough water to cover the seeds, maybe about a inch or so over the seeds. Shake shake shake for about 8-10mins, drain it as how stato says. I then add grape fruit juice to the tea 1:1. and drink it :)
 
Meh, works for me :) Empty stomach and 700-1000ml juice lol. 2-3 glasses I suppose.

I know about grape fruit juice, the reason I don't use it is basically because I've never been bothered.... The OJ is acidic enough to wash the seeds nicely without having to use water + lemon juice (yuck).

I was using 700g-800g seeds though, and I only put enough liquid in to cover them and enough so they were mushy/liquid and not a slop.

That said, I'd love to see someone try my method but with your suggestions as above... or even drinking grape fruit 30mins prior..
 
Hey I'm the OP. Im glad to see how much my thread has taken off.
Some of u ppl must ge strange looks when u go in & just buy like 10 packs of PS's
Ive been sticking with codeine if i need an otc opiate but I wish it was stronger.
I tried PST once but didnt get alot out of it. maybe need a higher dose.
I seem to have a natural tolerance to all opiates unfortunetly.
How do u guys think PST compared with codeine or how many grams u think is approx equal to 400mg of codeine?

I read something about someone using boiling water. Most ppl know that boiling water kills the codeine. I dunno about the morphine is PST but the loss of the codeine would make it a little bit weaker.
 
Anon54 said:
Hey I'm the OP. Im glad to see how much my thread has taken off.
Some of u ppl must ge strange looks when u go in & just buy like 10 packs of PS's
Ive been sticking with codeine if i need an otc opiate but I wish it was stronger.
I tried PST once but didnt get alot out of it. maybe need a higher dose.
I seem to have a natural tolerance to all opiates unfortunetly.
How do u guys think PST compared with codeine or how many grams u think is approx equal to 400mg of codeine?
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The main thing with poppy seeds is that they can be VERY different in strength from one container/bag to the next. You probably just got some low potency seeds last time, this means increasing your dose next time might not be a good idea.

It's very difficult to compare grams of poppy seeds to milligrams of codeine. It could be anywhere between 200 grams and 800 grams for example, depending on if the seeds were good or not.

Read some more of your thread and you'll learn some tricks to pick out the more potent seeds :) unless you find a steady source of good stuff it can just be trial and error. Different supermarkets will carry different batches of seed, same with health food stores, Indian grocers etc.
 
Jakeperson said:
The withdrawals aren't very nice.
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Damn jake that sucks :(

Been slowly dipping my feet into bupe final withdrawal and it hasn't been that bad yet. I'm just tapering, and then once stabilized skipping a day, then lowering dose and repeating. Physical WD's won't be so bad since I'm on such a micro dose, but the PAWS is what I hate....6 months or more of feeling pretty crap, tired, flat...
 
Its alllll in How washed a batch is. I will go to the SAME bulk store and get 600mg of seeds and it will feel like I have taken a t3 or 2, but 3 weeks l will get 600mg and it will make me feel like im on methadone.
 
Okay so I just went through this whole thread, as I hadn't checked on it since 3rd page.
And I'm still not sure on what recommended dosage I should use on a first-time opiate user?

I've seen some do 500grams, some do 250grams.

And some certain points which I remember are
-bottle tek-
-GFJ 40 minutes before hand-
-using a citris liquid as the extraction fluid-

I'd love for someoen to reply to this before 12 tomorrow :)
Otherwise I think 500grams is what I'll try.

Maybe just a low-dose 200gram one...maybe.
I researched the brands to find out if they've been washed or not, seems to save time.
 
i used to make this QUITE often, thanks to a local hippie store and world market. but after poppy pods and oxys and heroin, i can't feel a goddamn thing off of i unless it bought like 20 ounces or sthng. :(
 
jaurk said:
Okay so I just went through this whole thread, as I hadn't checked on it since 3rd page.
And I'm still not sure on what recommended dosage I should use on a first-time opiate user?

I've seen some do 500grams, some do 250grams.

And some certain points which I remember are
-bottle tek-
-GFJ 40 minutes before hand-
-using a citris liquid as the extraction fluid-

I'd love for someoen to reply to this before 12 tomorrow :)
Otherwise I think 500grams is what I'll try.

Maybe just a low-dose 200gram one...maybe.
I researched the brands to find out if they've been washed or not, seems to save time.
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anyone?
 
U will never know! Some seeds are washed some arnt so the opiate content may vary, it also depends on ur natural tolerance, tolerance to opiates in general and alot of other factors. A good starting dose would be 200g worth and work ur way up. U can always take more but can never take less once u have taken it.
 
jaurk said:
anyone?
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Just go 500g. Despite the fact that youre a first opiate user. While potent enough to be worth the effort, most seeds are nowhere near potency level that would be considered excessive for a first-timer. I guess maybe you could find some that are, but as a general rule you should be cool at 500g and youll get a taste of what its all about.

Just use our favourite cinema/movie theatre brand and youll be right. (assume you know what I mean there).

Also I usually GFJ as the citrus liquid to wash the seeds in. And yeah Ill have a glass of GFJ before hand. 30mins/simultaneously/whatever. Theres no hard science here. I have an academic paper that I downloaded off my uni library website that did a study on the effect of GFJ on diazepam in the blood and they found that drinking GFJ simultaneously as taking the valium increased the amount that was metabolised as well the duration of effect.
 
^^^
really bad advice

My ex was very affected from 100g. She was smacked out for days and vomiting.

500g might have killed her.
 
Jaurk I am not too experienced with PST whatsoever, to me I think perhaps you could make 500g of seeds but try only drinking half and waiting a few hours to see how you feel before drinking the rest. That seems like the safest approach to taking it while still allowing for the fact the lower dose may not be enough.
 
Yeah I would do 500g and drink half slowly over an hour, you will know by then if it is gonna be too strong. My gf gets sick off 200g but she has low tolerance to everything.
 
Guess my post wasnt exactly oozing harm minimisation. But I genuinely felt it was a safe approach. I do have quite an opiate tolerance though.

I guess it makes sense to start with any new substance to get a sense of what youre dealing with. I just thimk 200g is a waste whether youre a newbie or not. Unless of course you have a killer seed source.
 
Thanks for that guys, left before I could read these, so I picked up 500grams, just got home but I didn't do anything to it until I knew what was relatively safe.
Thanks guys, 500grams 2 washes, bottle tek, GFJ before and used as washing liquid.
And I'll drink half see how that is, and the other half if it's needed.

The drinking half idea was really good, ta.
 
Hello BL, I need some advice.
I thought asking earlier would yield better answers instead of asking the day before :P

2 friends and I have agreed on trying poppy seed tea, 2 of them have never done any opiates.
I was thinking:

750grams
2 washes
GFJ

And so that'd be between us 250grams each.
A reasonably 'safe' dosage for the 2 new guys, if these were a 'normal' batch of seeds, what are the chances of them feeling something, and if so, what would they feel? (as if you were a newbie and started on 250grams)

Personally, opiates gives me mega headaches and nausea, but they want to see if they feel any good effects.

Put yourself in their position.
250grams first go for complete newbie?
(And we will be splitting the dosage up and sipping on it until the user feels like they don't want anymore.)
 
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