Police on lookout for new, dangerous designer drug (4-AcO-DMT? 4-HO-DMT?)

It seriously PISSES ME OFF that the law and article automatically call it a dangerous designer drug. First of all, 4-ho-dmt is just a synthetically made version of psilocin, which is natural. Second, there is NO evidence that it is in the least bit dangerous- unless consumed in absurd amounts. It is simply the The Thought Police at work here. Anything that causes a mental shift that doesn't blur or make the user just stupid from using it is considered dangerous. Soon EVERY psychedelic will by default be demonized ant outlawed. I've said before that this is a great disservice to mankind as a whole- and the scientific community needs to step in and prove that there is a legitimate use for these drugs; or we can kiss them goodbye forever.
 
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on_the_rise_5 said:
Im with you there they fuckin tear you to shreds i had 2 officers drill me for 6 hours after already being in custody for 7 hours, 3 hours of that was them drilling me at my house while raiding it.. i spilled my guts for them and they got me a treat for it, but yeh, cops are trained to interrigate you, you forget everything in the interview room.. if i had time over i would have just pretended i had tape on my mouth and not opened iot for ANYTHING


It called the Reid Method of Interrogation. Read up, cuz if you know what to expect then it's really not that much of a shock. Also, remember the key words when they start to interrogate you "I would like a lawyer, now". After that don't say a damn thing. They are legally allowed to lie to you during interrogation. Most likely they do not have overwhelming evidence nor are they actually obligated to full fill any "deals" they make with you durring interrogations. Cops are the lowest of the fucking low. Don't let such losers win. Know your rights and use them. ;)
 
zophen said:
Really , you just give a generic description of Joe Anyone, or say your terrified for your life or say nothing.

But that's with British law enforcers, so who knows, perhaps American Law enforcement is more coercive.
perhaps American Law enforcement is MUCH more coercive when it comes to, well..uh...anything. They most always try to literally trick you into thinking you're in the wrong or have no rights on the matter, etc. and they "gotta meet those quotas"... fucking cops.
 
*AND GOD DAMMIT THIS PISSES ME OFF SO MUCH!!!!!
Fucking stupid kids. They have the know how and the know whats all about 4-aco/ho-dmt, how good it is, the right place(s) to get it, obviously for a decent or good price, considering their age and the average amount of money kids that age have...fucking morons. And meeting at some random PUBLIC, outdoor place? How fucking stupid, pardon me. If they were bros and shit, why not just drive to the others house? Oh yeah, because then they wouldnt get busted, and ruin the whole supply/scene for the responsible users of this SACRAMENT...sythetic psilocyn/psilocybin. Having access to these 2 drugs actually makes it safer for those who like to eat mushies..because they will ALWAYS know the dose of psilocyn. So...harm reduction?,.wtf>,? oh yeah, the government doesnt give a shit...and thanks to these idiots, who could of easily said 5-meo-dmt, or 2-ct-7 or some shit and if the chem got tested they just say the company obviously lied to them. Then again, getting questioned by the FBI/DEA when you're 19 and in that mind frame. i know what its like. but at least i never had to rat. still, they never had to meet up in public. wtFUCKINGshit.

what a said day.
 
Astavats said:
If it is Psilocin as Coolio suggested, three grams will go a long way!

4-acO-DMT is an analog of psilocin and is about half as strong. A dose of about 20mg is roughly equal to an 8th of mushrooms.
 
^I wouldn't say half as potent as Psilocin, that's kind of pushing it. Anyway, it's a subjective matter when you compare it to mushrooms, as potencies per batch very, and such.

3g/20mg (doses) = 150 trips. That's still a lot of trips! At least for me that would go a long way.

And a last note, we don't know what it was. This article just says it's "a designer tryptamine type drug, described as a synthetic mushroom" which could be many things, as this is so vague.
 
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