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Opioids Plugging PST

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Kuja

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I am going to try this, but I have a few questions and I want to make sure I do it right.

I usually use about 2 pounds of seeds to make my tea, which yields about 500ml worth of liquid. I know this is too much liquid to plug so I plan to put the liquid on a half-size baking tray and put it in the oven on a low temperature (100 degrees F?) until it has evaporated into a small enough liquid to plug. Hopefully it doesn't take longer than an hour or so.

I have never reduced my PST or any other liquid for the matter, so is this an effective method? I have heard of leaving it on a tray over night with a fan on it, but due to my current living situation, that is not an option. I only have about an hour to spend on reducing the liquid.

I have never plugged anything either, but I am not scared or intimidated by it. I'm going to use a baster and insert it about 3 or 4 inches before I squeeze it. What is an acceptable amount of liquid to plug? I'm guessing if you plug too much liquid, at a certain point it will just come out. What is acceptable, 50ml? 100ml?

I know there are a lot of different questions in this thread, but again, I have never reduced a liquid and I have never plugged anything. I just want to make sure I do them in a safe and effective manor. Last question: Is this going to be worth all the hassle that is being put into it? I've always heard that plugging has a high BA. There are many active alkaloids in PST, but morphine is the main one. Morphine has a low oral BA, so I'm hoping the effects felt from plugging are a lot more pleasant than those felt from oral administration.

For anyone interested, I decided to try doing all this because the poppy seeds in my area have dropped in potency about 50% a few months ago all at once. It really sucks so now I have to use about 50% more than I used to. I noticed that this is a cycle every year though... The seeds are amazing for about 6 months and then drop down alot for another 6 months. Anyway, enough of my rambling. Any advice is much appreciated! Thanks!
 
i'm not sure how long it would taken in the oven at 100f, probably a while. Water takes forever to evaporate. I'd try double boiling it at a low temp on the stove, definitely don't want to burn it. I think there are some posts in the PST thread in trip reports that talk about plugging reduced PST. People have said it works quite well, but there really aren't that many reports. Seeds went to shit in my area as well. I think since PST has morphine in it that plugging it is a worthwhile investigation as morphine has a much higher BA when plugged compared to oral.

I'd do some more searching but i think you may just have to experiment yourself with this and see how it goes. I don't have any real experience plugging (not my preferred roa) but i'm sure others have advice.
 
reducing 500ml of water to a pluggable amount will take one Hell of a long time!

50ml is Way too much, think more like 10ml and you will probably realise that this isn't really an option.

Can you not make the tea with a lot less water?
 
FlippingTop said:
reducing 500ml of water to a pluggable amount will take one Hell of a long time!

50ml is Way too much, think more like 10ml and you will probably realise that this isn't really an option.

Can you not make the tea with a lot less water?
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I don't think I'd be able to use less water, as the amount I use now "feels" like it's almost not enough...

What about what RobotRipping mentioned; splitting it into two parts, each in its own pan, on top of the stove and let it simmer? I'm trying to figure out the hottest temperature I can subject the PST to, in order to achieve the fastest evaporation rate while not damaging to potency.
 
i can't seem to find those reports of people plugging PST but they are around somewhere. Morphine breaks down at 180f from what i've read, defintely don't bring it to a boil. IME it takes forever to evaporate water but if you are doing a big enough batch it may be worth it. You could probably use the same 500ml water to wash several batches, as i'm sure 500ml isn't completely saturated with morphine. That might make it a bit easier to deal with but i'm not sure how efficient this would be. I also found 500ml to be hardly enough water to wash a lb but maybe that same water could hold several lbs worth of washing, i'm not sure.
 
Reducing the water on the stove with the lowest temperature setting (should stay below 80 degrees celsius) works fine and speeds up the process, but when the volume gets really low it is best to evaporate the rest in the owen (70 degrees) to avoid destroying the goodies. This is the method I've used for extractions and the potency remains. Anyway, plugging does not seem to work any better than oral route so I suggest just drinking it, it's not worth the hassle in my experience.
 
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