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Opioids Please Help!! Withdraw :(
- Thread starter My9RidesShotgun
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solano1
Greenlighter
Wow, 600-800 mil a day for two years? Those are insane doses!!!! I believe you will still have withdrawals for another 2 weeks...but not as severe......but my advice for you is try to lay off the xanax....trust me the last thing you need is a benzo addiction...especially from xanax.....I took xanax for 7 weeks at about 3 mil a day....i ran out...and all hell broke loose for about 2 1/2 weeks.....almost had a seizure...benzo have the worst withdrawal on earth....I withdrew from percocet...and oxys.....after 1 year of use.....the first two weeks was horrible....but after about day 15 i felt the symptoms subside.....but there was no bigger hell than xanax w/d.....so be careful......
My9RidesShotgun
Bluelighter
i feel like you described my life just there lol. except ive never moved on to IVing, even though i think about it just so i could get fucking high. nodding is a thing of the past for me, i dont even really remember what it feels like to be good and fucked up on rox. but im at almost 2 weeks clean now, so thats good i guess. thanks for the sympathy
honestly its people saying shit like that to me or encouraging me thats really keeping me clean, im sure that if i didnt have people around me checking up on me and trying to keep me busy id be blasting blues this very second lol. so its much appreciated!!! good luck staying clean. you can do it!!! one last q? though-what was worse, coming of the oc snorting habit or the IV heroin habit? cause if the ocs were worse thats def info i want to know haha.
My9RidesShotgun
Bluelighter
i used to take like 10 bars daily for over a year and never had WD when i stopped, so im not too worried about that part. plus they are literally the only thing keeping me sane right now lol. but thanks a lot for the advice!!!
tricomb
Bluelight Crew
Wow you're lucky. I'm still getting over benzo PAWS and I haven't used xanax over 2mg for like a year and I only take it a few times a month now, instead of like 30-100mg/day. My tolerance to benzos is permanently fucked IMO. Be careful with the alprazolam, even if you don't think it's doing harm, it is, it keeps you sane by fucking up your memories. I don't call that sanity. Don't ruin a beautiful mind with 20mg xanax a day because it will.
It's one thing to use benzos for acute withdrawals of opiates, but not for PAWS.
My9RidesShotgun
Bluelighter
im not planning on staying on them like this long, just til my WDs calm down and im not as mentally fucked ya know? but my pain dr has told me multiple times that im most likely bipolar, but that the opiates were treating it so i didnt need meds for it, but now that im getting clean i think im going to go to a headshrinker and get bipolar meds and maybe antidepressants or anti anxiety or something. i just want to feel like a normal person
My9RidesShotgun
Bluelighter
yeah i agree, im a retarded zombie on xanax if i take too much. def dont want that lol.
livetheopiatedream
Bluelighter
i feel like you described my life just there lol. except ive never moved on to IVing, even though i think about it just so i could get fucking high. nodding is a thing of the past for me, i dont even really remember what it feels like to be good and fucked up on rox. but im at almost 2 weeks clean now, so thats good i guess. thanks for the sympathy
one last q? though-what was worse, coming of the oc snorting habit or the IV heroin habit? cause if the ocs were worse thats def info i want to know haha.
oxy can be shitty but iv heroin without a doubt was worse. i think its longer too. halflife oc 6hrs, h-12hrs....shorter halflife= shorter WD...like hydromorph wd is only like 4 days coz its halflife is even less than oc's, prolly 3-4 hrs or sumtin but im not sure zactly
but i dunno if it being worse is due to having a longer habit [dec2010-present] at that point or that it was h and not oxy [only a 3-4 month habit prior]. ur lucky u got out before the op's or neos depending where u live hit. snorting habit like that u'd have to take 1/3 more due to oral BA being less and another like 100-200% more on top of that if u cant break the time release which ive heard is a bitch.
i got these crazy skin on fire thing on top of my usual symptoms [which were worse after H...if i didnt have my h, like 10x100mg morphine wouldnt even make a DENT in my WD i felt like i was shooting a bb gun at a tank]; chills and sweats, sheer panic and depression, shits [in absence of immodium/lope] puking, insomnia, RLS, cramps fatigue stiffness. like i know ur skin crawls normally but the first week i switched to IV H i detoxed...didnt wanna be a needle using junkie [FAIL, and like u i only tried it coz i couldnt feel a damn thing otherwise, its a slippery slope]
... that time [first time switch from h snorted to IV] i got this new skin on fire symptom and its honestly the worst thing ive ever experienced. it felt like the shit you get in a really big fuckup of a precipitated WD ... taking bupe wayy too early at wayyyy too high a dose. i cant even describe it properly. its so intense. if u ever been iv'd with morphine and felt that beautiful itchy rush histamine reaction that consumes ur whole body its like that but as pleasant as this is, this is its opposite ... times like 1303349 . it is hell and i wouldnt reccomend it! wouldnt wish it on my worst enemy.
good luck with ur detox n stay strong! if the cravings are too much i do bupe. sometimes ill do a shitload of it so i KNOW i cant get high. then by like a day later hopefully ill have changed my mind.
& yeah i didnt nod for like 8 months at the height of my oxy use. nothing would touch me. a fat line of oc or H i wouldnt even feel. all i felt is sick vs normal. im sure u can relate. when it gets there u really question why youre hustling all fuckin day on top of 10 hours of work and sleep barely at all to feel SHIT fckin ALL. i relapsed in a few weeks after my detox from the 600-900mg a day oxy habit that was jan 2011. h CAN still get me high my tolerance isnt quite as fucked now that ive been trying to get clean about 2.5 months now. i fucked up a lot the first month. but thats how long ive been giving it a proper go.
also ur detox would b worse if u were shooting the oc clearly cause nasal BA is like 60% and iv s got perfect BA, 100% ... sooo luckily for u ur tolerance isnt as high as it might otherwise b
livetheopiatedream
Bluelighter
HA i always say this exact thing word for word in WD/PAWS. man, u r quite like me.i just want to feel like a normal person
this is just my experience:
@ 9 days in? it will take at least another 5 days to get rid of all the acute shit. but should feel significantly better in 3 days. in my experience at that kinda dosing. stomach will stay fucked and gradually improve thru the first month. chills stay awhile. fatigue and depression/anxiety that is messed up, debilitating, should be the worst of it after the acute shit is done @2wks. usually oc wd is only 7 ish days but that retarded dosing we both seem to b fans of makes it a bunch longer
& DONT GET ADDICTED TO THE BENZOS LIKE TRICOMB SAID. sooo much worse than opi WD
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My9RidesShotgun
Bluelighter
man @ livetheopiatedream i think youre right were like the same exact person lol. i never like to admit it but ive been thinking about IVing for wile now just so i can fucking get high but i know if i do that its over, im definitely gonna end up a needle junkie for life. i get my script tomorrow. the plan is to sell the whole thing. well see how that goes ill keep yall updated. if im ever in toronto im looking you up and were gonna shoot some H together for my first time. just cause were so alike so im sure itd be fun haha.
My9RidesShotgun
Bluelighter
OH YEAH AND I HAVE 12 DAYS CLEAN NOW EVERYONE!!! i know it doesnt sound like shit to normal people but yall all know how hard it is. hopefully tomorrow will be 13!!!!
livetheopiatedream
Bluelighter
lol feel freethe dope is good here! at leastmine is. id hate to get someone into needles tho... i need to stop i just fully dont accept any other ROA ne more. te rush is just too excellent and i can still achieve a nod at about 125-75 dollars. which is a lot but in comparison to the nasal h or oc id need at my tolerance its just the only way. sometimes its sketchy shooting tho... if u take too much... i used to easily shoot a half gram or more and now like a quarter if its better than what im used to can knock me flat for a half hour before i collect myself again :/
i wont be high after tho its weird ... id still need more to get high, i guess its the initial shock to my system of the rush [which i tend to b awake till the end of in these situations] n high that does it....
congrats on 12 days! sooo important to b proud of how far u have come/ i take it minute by minute not even just day by day/ and also important to view fuckups as little blips,learning experiences on the way to sobriety. i hate that defeatist shit where u think ' well,ive already fucked it up so i mightas well go shoot a bunch more heroin".... breaks so many good detox attempts for us addicts.
you can do iitttttttt!
i wont be high after tho its weird ... id still need more to get high, i guess its the initial shock to my system of the rush [which i tend to b awake till the end of in these situations] n high that does it....
congrats on 12 days! sooo important to b proud of how far u have come/ i take it minute by minute not even just day by day/ and also important to view fuckups as little blips,learning experiences on the way to sobriety. i hate that defeatist shit where u think ' well,ive already fucked it up so i mightas well go shoot a bunch more heroin".... breaks so many good detox attempts for us addicts.
you can do iitttttttt!
My9RidesShotgun
Bluelighter
thanks girl. im sure you know this but just a few random words of encouragement can make a huge difference. but whether i succeed in this detox or not, im looking you up if im ever in toronto
oh yeah! ive been wondering this forever, and ive gotten different answers so i dont know what to believe but youre actually in canada so youll know...do yall still get the real OCs or the OPs? i gotta know cause if yall are still getting the real ones ill be there a lot sooner than planned lol.
Titus
Bluelighter
Saweet! I bought another 3 grams last night. I sniff and they were gone (acutally over a gram waas gone before the 20min drive home!) because I had used 8mg of subutex that day total so could barely feel it and I went the day prior using nothing even though I had subutex on hand. The next 2 grams went today. While I still had subutex and was doing great on subutex maintenance for 2 friggin months. I couldn't shake the terrible pain in my needs and got it in my head I wanted the dope so got it.
Back to subutex tomorrow along with xanax, for how long we shall see... but your an inspiration to me! I was talking all high and mighty a couple weeks ago, sort of the calm beofre the storm, like I had friggin arrived or something. Guess I needed to learn some humility. Or NEED to learn some humility, time will tell. I'm not doing a lot to try and 'stay clean' or stay on subutex maintenance other than having it in my possession. Once I gave in to a taste of the dope it took over like a monster right quick. I used to be a badass but not bad enought to kick dopes ass, that's for sure....
Keep up the great work! And keep posting, this is a great site! I've been around the block more than a few times with more than a few different substances and this is the only site of this nature that I belong to. I've requested that I be banned from at least a couple others due to the immaturity of the mods there. Or the cliquish bs that I have no interest in or need for and think it's counter productive whether or not the site is pro drug use, accepting of drug use at any ammt and open to harm reduction, pro harm reduction, whatever.... I think this site is just great so know I'm in the right place. HOpe you find htat it's a good fit for you too.
Peace,
Titus
livetheopiatedream
Bluelighter
@my9 we have the real ones but im not sure for how long!! probably a month or two max. the neos are a comin! i got some 20s the other day...those r still excellent. havent seen 80s but havent looked either but from what i gather the normal ocs are still here for a lil bit. i know the neos have hit further north and theres like no clinics up there to deal w the massive influx of detox patients. everywheres full. its a huge problem!
yeah id imagine detox buddies on bl would help. ive been loving the site the last couple weeks .... i talk drugs all day long anyway soo this works for me, dont really know any of the other users yet tho unfortunately...but i will if i keep posting all the time im sure. i will
i wish this city had more places u can go to get opi's...like open air markets....but we dont really, u gotta have connections mainly. i just feel like id love to experience not having to wait for my fuckin guy to wakeup till 6pm. pain in the ass. or have my whole day fucked cuz i forgot my phone that morn on the way to work and then cant get a hold of anyone and panic all damn day cuz i wont have let anyone know what ill be needing [til i get home at 7]so it might not be there at all then i got like a day at home sick to look forward to if i can even get out of work at all. but with the habit i had, no opis=no working... wayyy too sick. i can handle it to an extent but around 24 hrs after the oc im incapacitated with the exception of going to get more so the pain stops
yeah id imagine detox buddies on bl would help. ive been loving the site the last couple weeks .... i talk drugs all day long anyway soo this works for me, dont really know any of the other users yet tho unfortunately...but i will if i keep posting all the time im sure. i will
i wish this city had more places u can go to get opi's...like open air markets....but we dont really, u gotta have connections mainly. i just feel like id love to experience not having to wait for my fuckin guy to wakeup till 6pm. pain in the ass. or have my whole day fucked cuz i forgot my phone that morn on the way to work and then cant get a hold of anyone and panic all damn day cuz i wont have let anyone know what ill be needing [til i get home at 7]so it might not be there at all then i got like a day at home sick to look forward to if i can even get out of work at all. but with the habit i had, no opis=no working... wayyy too sick. i can handle it to an extent but around 24 hrs after the oc im incapacitated with the exception of going to get more so the pain stops
My9RidesShotgun
Bluelighter
@Titus yeah ive tried out other forums but i hate all of them but this one. just get back on the subutex and xanax, i promise if i can do it you can!! keep your head up, pm me if you need anything. oh and thanks for calling me an inspiration!!! maybe its just my wacked out emotions but it really meant a lot
GOOD LUCK!!!!!
GOOD LUCK!!!!!
Miss Kirsty
Bluelighter
That def dosent have to be typo...I was in the same boat...A box of 30x80mg oxys gone every twentyfour hours..That was me...I would use up to 4 at a time..I am a female weighing 50kgs..I understand exactly what your saying OP..
In regards to the sweating, can you get a script for clonidine? providing your blood pressure is ok that is..Clonidine will help alot with the sweats...
I have cold turkyed of this dose before and thought i was going to die...I went from 800mg a day to zip zero zilch and i had no nothing to back me up..no xanax,val,clonidine, nothing!!I was sick for 14 days straight...I vomited a twenty litre bucket FULL of bright yellow gunk..gross i know..but thats how sick it made me.., i couldnt move for 5 of those days..except to the toliet...I lived in the shower when i could move...and this went on for 14-15 days...Then another 3 months before i started being normal with sweat issues and sleeping and other things that loiter in your body...Its way too high a dose for CT...I will NEVER do it again....BUT youve just about done it really OP...
You have done a fucking fantastic job mate!!!!9 days, i hope its 10 today? I am sooo fucking impressed that you have had the gumption to do this...It so hard..
In regards to the sweating, can you get a script for clonidine? providing your blood pressure is ok that is..Clonidine will help alot with the sweats...
I have cold turkyed of this dose before and thought i was going to die...I went from 800mg a day to zip zero zilch and i had no nothing to back me up..no xanax,val,clonidine, nothing!!I was sick for 14 days straight...I vomited a twenty litre bucket FULL of bright yellow gunk..gross i know..but thats how sick it made me.., i couldnt move for 5 of those days..except to the toliet...I lived in the shower when i could move...and this went on for 14-15 days...Then another 3 months before i started being normal with sweat issues and sleeping and other things that loiter in your body...Its way too high a dose for CT...I will NEVER do it again....BUT youve just about done it really OP...
You have done a fucking fantastic job mate!!!!9 days, i hope its 10 today? I am sooo fucking impressed that you have had the gumption to do this...It so hard..
My9RidesShotgun
Bluelighter
hahaha i know EXACTLY what youre talkng about!!! i cant believe yall still have the real OCs, weve had OPs down south for like a year. im super jealous lol.
My9RidesShotgun
Bluelighter
ive got clonidine, it really has helped. and of course xanax. i feel fucking HORRIBLE for you reading about how bad your WD was, theres no way i could have EVER done this cold turkey. and tomorrow is actually DAY 12!!!thanks so much for the support
My9RidesShotgun
Bluelighter
@opiatedream, im gonna pm you once my 180 minutes is up lol. im such a noob to this site. but i got a couple q?s for you so watch out for the message.