Planning on trying 2cb, possibly combined with MDMA...help/suggestions/experiences?

[Jabberwocky]

are you good at being sensible about dosing/timing? if not, be v careful with this combo.... i got through a stupidly large amount of 2cb and mdma and only had 2 decent experiences with it because once i come up on md the fact that too much 2cb really isn't a good thing just doesn't compute.

as others have said, dose the 2cb first, wait til you're starting to come up. then i would suggest doing a lot less mdma than you would if you were on md alone.

i personally have found that doing 2cb at the tail end of md just makes me absolutely brain dead, unable to think or do anything, so its a good job there's a load of pretty colours to watch. this is probably because i'm too gone for sensible dosing at this point.

my boyfs best ever drug experience was 1 2cb pill and 1 decent ecstacy pill taken at the same time with all his best mates.

 

[I NUK3D U]

^The hydrobromide counterion is significantly heavier than the hydrochloride.
I don't have exact figures for you off the top of my head though.

Sorry yes, you're right, and in fact that would support my downwards prediction for dose from HBr => HCl

Not sure of molecular weight either of the two acid salts but erowid suggests 25mg-30mg+ is the gap between common & strong doses (for HCl pressumably), and since I think that is how I would describe the difference in my two trips, I think it's fairly safe to say that a 30mg HBr = 20mg-22mg HCl. Something like that. I'm pretty sure my batch was tested at just under 90% purity too so I suppose that also has a bearing.

In otherwords, completely ignore my dosing advice numerically, but trust me when I say it's a steep curve, and only add MDMA when you've nailed it on it's own!!

As an aside, I would strongly disagree with the advice given above that snorting is an ok idea. In my and many others' experiences; it's simply not.

 

[enantio]

The molar equivalent of 30 mg of the bromide salt of 2C-B is 26 mg of the chloride salt.


(296.51 AMU 2C-B HCl / 341.05 AMU 2C-B HBr) * 30 mg 2C-B HBr = 26.09 mg 2C-B HCl

 

[pofacedhoe]

2C-B and MDMA typically combine very well, and there are a couple of different ways that you can do it. If lining up the dosages is your priority I would definitely take the 2C-I before the MDMA. This route will most likely maximize your body high and visuals as well.

Your other option is to take the 2C-B on the tail end of a roll, which has been noted to produce a unique and special state (the so-called "nexus-flip") that allows for a more thorough integration of the enactogenic experience produced by the MDMA, as well as a more introspective state than either compound tends to produce on its own. The experiences of most people with this combination would seem to indicate that taking them in this manner produces a more desirable overall effect than stacking the peaks.

Happy Flipping

taking 2cb while mdma is wearing off is very good- counter intuitive to the idea that mdma comedown and tripping is bad