• MDMA &
    Empathogenic
    Drugs

    Welcome Guest!
  • MDMA Moderators: Esperighanto

Planning on trying 2cb, possibly combined with MDMA...help/suggestions/experiences?

G

gemmaxx

Greenlighter
Joined
Feb 1, 2011
Messages
12
Sooo I'm a pretty new roller, and I am interested in 2cb, want to try it... What's it like? Should i combine it with e as well?
 
It’s pretty trippy and can feel very 'E' like without the empathy - the visuals on lights, sounds etc are increased and you’re definitely in a different head space.

Some people enjoy it - some people hate it and find the altered state too much for them.

It does work very nicely with MDMA but if you haven’t tried it before - then take it by itself first. That way you will get a feeling of how it works, what it feels like, how it alters your perception etc - then if you enjoy the experience try it with something else.
 
2C-B and MDMA typically combine very well, and there are a couple of different ways that you can do it. If lining up the dosages is your priority I would definitely take the 2C-I before the MDMA. This route will most likely maximize your body high and visuals as well.

Your other option is to take the 2C-B on the tail end of a roll, which has been noted to produce a unique and special state (the so-called "nexus-flip") that allows for a more thorough integration of the enactogenic experience produced by the MDMA, as well as a more introspective state than either compound tends to produce on its own. The experiences of most people with this combination would seem to indicate that taking them in this manner produces a more desirable overall effect than stacking the peaks.

Happy Flipping
 
There is no inherent danger with combining these two compounds, but caution should still be taken, especially if you unfamiliar with the effects of either drug.
Keep the doses on the low side.(I would take no more than 17mg of 2c-b, the mdma is more "dose friendly", so to speak, but still there's no need to be excessive. 100mg will be fine)

Also be in a comfortable place. As with any psychedelic, the environment in which you are in can affect the experience heavily, good or bad.

And of course be safe and have fun :)
 
2cb is excellent but has a very steep dose curve. Can be very acid-like so I'd only combine with MDMA once you've tried on it's own a few times and are comfortable with the precise dose that doesn't make things too edgy.
 
In lower doses, the drug is more like e. The dose-response curve isn't as intense as other 2c's, but the effects are noticeably more psychedelic (in my experience) around the 20 - 30mg range.

I would try this one in low doses with MDMA, and, as Bearlove said, I'd try it on its own before going for a combination. It's always best to see how you respond to a drug by itself before diving into combinations.
 
If someone already mentioned this I'm sorry, but if you get your hands on some 2C-B make sure you test it. Kids where I live consume and sell pipes telling each other its "2C-B" or "2C something" all the time. The right pipes combos are pretty psychedelic and lots of people take them and think they are 2C-B or Ketamine or all kinds of stuff.
 
shiznik said:
If someone already mentioned this I'm sorry, but if you get your hands on some 2C-B make sure you test it. Kids where I live consume and sell pipes telling each other its "2C-B" or "2C something" all the time. The right pipes combos are pretty psychedelic and lots of people take them and think they are 2C-B or Ketamine or all kinds of stuff.
Click to expand...

QFT! The amount of reports I read on PR where users say these are some form of 2c or research chemical because they are 'trippy'.

Mcpp or too much Tmfpp (piperazines) will make you feel very trippy.
 
Thanks guys. So if I should take it alone first, how much should I take? Same small dose? I can usually handle a standard dose pretty well? Especially since I'll be just chilling in my friends house
 
20mg is a solid enough dose, and will most likely lend itself to a trip that is satisfying but not overwhelming. I would not take less than 15 or more than 25 for your first trip. Additionally, unless you are a regular heavy smoker, I would not take any weed until you you've reached the peak of the trip. Getting overly blazed while coming up on a trip can lead to anxiety and paranoia.
 
I also would discourage snorting this, even if anyone was thinking of it.

If you're lucky, you've got a bromide salt, and it will only sting like a handful of bees.

If you're not, you've got the chloride salt, and it will feel like your entire face is being melted from within. For quite a few minutes.

One of my close friends describes it as one of the worst experiences of his life.
 
2C-B is great. It's trippy, but it's more euphoric, and not as deep as most psychedelics, and it's widely said to have a bit of an empathogen-like feel.

If you're timid, start with 10mg, but 15-20mg should be fine, and is a standard dose. Take it when you're in a positive state of mind.

You definitely need to test your 2C-B before you take it. Unfortunately, 2C-B, 2C-C, and 2C-I are very hard to tell apart from reagent tests. See my thread in pill reports. If you can't be sure that it's 2C-B instead of the much more obtainable 2C-I or 2C-C, be prepared for the possibility of it being one of those (i'd take 20mg of any of them without a second thought, but not everyone would).

Don't snort it. Don't snort any 2C's for that matter, except maybe 2C-C, and even that's unpleasant to snort.
 
Bearlove said:
What has this got to do with the question? Its not helping anyone by simply replying like that.
Click to expand...

Just a suggestion, a pretty benefical one at that, he's body's going to need the resources to filter out that kind of combo, and chances are his minds got bigger fish to fry atm than worrying about some guppy water consumption. So serves as a reminder at minimum.
 
With any new psychadelic, especially those with (what I consider to be) steep dose curves, I always keep some benzos close by. Diaz to knock me out if necessary; Alpraz to take away a bit of the edginess on the come down; and actually, Clonazepham I find can stop the visuals & trippiness dead in the water if I've just had enough duration-wise. I'd rarely combine any of these though in one trip, although some people I know do, with varied effects. Just be aware of comparable dosages and half-lives in respect of future short-term usage (blah blah....)

Not everyone agrees with these pairings and their effects. Some do; some find the opposite. Just have a contingency in case you dose too much.
 
Last edited:
somedud said:
Just a suggestion, a pretty benefical one at that, he's body's going to need the resources to filter out that kind of combo, and chances are his minds got bigger fish to fry atm than worrying about some guppy water consumption. So serves as a reminder at minimum.
Click to expand...

While I agree staying hydrated is important, drug metabolism/elimination/excretion are entirely more complex and different issues.

Also, agreed with ^above^ that a small dose benzo (say, .5mg alprazolam or 5mg diazepam) can help if you begin to feel overwhelmed.
 
delta_9 said:
While I agree staying hydrated is important, drug metabolism/elimination/excretion are entirely more complex and different issues.

Also, agreed with ^above^ that a small dose benzo (say, .5mg alprazolam or 5mg diazepam) can help if you begin to feel overwhelmed.
Click to expand...

Agreed, and just to confirm 0.5mg alpraz / 5mg diaz / probably 0.5mg Clonaz depending on how overwhelming you find the visuals.

A good strong dose of Diaz (15mg-20mg depending on weight and tolerance) can just about send me to sleep if I'm tripping bad tho, but that's just me personally, so would need support from others here before resorting to that. Similarly, I'd go as high as 2mg Clonaz to kick the visuals if I really needed to.

This advice applies generally to 2c-x's.

One final thing on ROA, unlike alpraz; diaz can take a bit of time to kick in so I'd usually take half of whatever my dose is sublingually.

Can't help but feel we've moved slightly off topic! lol, so returning to 2cb, a friend of mine & I had an amazing night together after injesting 30mg of 2cb (hydro-bromide salt), not sure how this converts to the hydro-chloride salt weight for weight, but I think the HBr is a little lighter molecularly so perhaps that's the equivalent to 25mg HCl (??anyone clever able to verify or hurl ridicule?? :D).

Anyway, quite some time later, again with no tolerance, we repeated the experience in exactly the same conditions, only with 35mg each. We were fuuucked. We're fairly experienced with pychs so we managed ok, but it was very overwhelming and we barely enjoyed any of it. We validated afterwards that the conditions were as close to before as possible. We smoked a small spliff each during both trips, and whilst the strain was different, the strength and sativa/indica content were comparable.

Just be minded of dose and bear in mind that whilst MDMA may enhance a good trip, it will not make a bad trip enjoyable. It will likely prolong it by preventing anything used to mitigate.

Saucy said:
2C-B and MDMA typically combine very well, and there are a couple of different ways that you can do it. If lining up the dosages is your priority I would definitely take the 2C-I before the MDMA. This route will most likely maximize your body high and visuals as well.

Your other option is to take the 2C-B on the tail end of a roll, which has been noted to produce a unique and special state (the so-called "nexus-flip") that allows for a more thorough integration of the enactogenic experience produced by the MDMA, as well as a more introspective state than either compound tends to produce on its own. The experiences of most people with this combination would seem to indicate that taking them in this manner produces a more desirable overall effect than stacking the peaks.

Happy Flipping
Click to expand...

This is also sounds extremely interesting and probably advisable. (To the extent that I'm gonna try this myself next time! :)) - good shout

<3
 
Last edited:
I've never tried 2c-b but 2c-e and mdma was an extremely enjoyable combo for me.

I recommend taking the 2c-* first, sublingaling it, then take the molly when you start to feel it kicking in. You don't really want both to come up at the same time and 2c-* lasts a lot longer.

I don't know the dose range of -b vs. -e but I'd opt for the lower end of the scale say like 12-14mg.

phenethylamines seem to take forever to kick in (like 90 mins) so bear that in mind. snorting is not recommended but if you must then cut the dose in half and do tiny little minuscule bumps of dust every few minutes vs. doing a line...you won't feel much burn but the cumulative effect will build very fast.
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Top