^ yeah my mates didn't seem to get a rough comedown off them or anything, as you might expect from piperazine.. I had a half but didn't notice anything (was on acid and a real pill at the time tho).. one mate who had a couple said it felt just like a low dose of mushrooms.. ?
definitely hallucinogenic, avoid if your after a rushy feeling! quite big pills, obviously not mdma as they don't crumble at all, look like pharms