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Pills of today vs. pills of 2+years ago.

What do you think of Pills today vs. Pills from 2+yrs ago?

  • Think 80% of pills are better then 2+yrs ago

    Votes: 15 9.9%

  • Think 80% of pills are worse then 2+yrs ago

    Votes: 75 49.3%

  • No difference

    Votes: 62 40.8%
  • Total voters
    152
Raz, not true

The U.S has a way bigger market, with less competetion than Europe as a whole. Americans consume the majority of all illicits substances across the board. Eastern Europe there are many manufactures so supply is plentifull which in turn keeps prices down and quality up. To say that Americans consume less than the average European would be the same as saying that the Russian/Israelies DON"T control the majority of the market, around the globe.


Now if you want statistics, I can't do that because of possible reprecusions.

But I invite you to the HIVE (where there are many people from across the world with PLENTY of knowledge on this subject) post.
Make your statement there.

Look for me in the Russian HyperLab where I moderate.

Enjoy!!!!!!!!

Model:p
 
To say that Americans consume less than the average European would be the same as saying that the Russian/Israelies DON"T control the majority of the market, around the globe
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There you go again, where do you pull all this info from model ??? I'm very curious.
 
Crazee

Now you don't really think I could give that type of information out, do you?

I mod at the Hive, so leave the rest to your imagination.

I guess it all has to do with WHO you know, like anything else.

BTW- It IS common knowledge that the Russian Jews (Holland, Germany) as well as the Israelies have the mjority of it locked down. Not all but most. Once you go high enough it's very apparent.

Model
=D
 
According to the DEA the Dutch still produce most of the US xtc.

When i started to use xtc (8/9 years ago) the xtc was stronger. Sombody high up told me once that it has to do with multiple things like less skilled producers and cheaper ingredients (for higher profit % )
Another reason is that the big producers imported
a sertain ingredient for xtc from Poland where it was very easy to get . A couple of years ago it became illegal for consumers to buy the stuff and big shipments of the ingredient were watched and traced.

Producers of xtc replaced it for something else what resulted in a little less quality of the xtc.

You can never tell the quality of a pill by the stamp because everybody uses the same stamps. (25 producers can all make doves.....you can't see the difference)
 
Bigmick

Hey Bigmick...I don't know what area you are from, but around here...every batch of hearts that went around in the past 2+yrs haven't been good. We have had white hearts 3 times. First time they were weak but if you took more then one you at least felt something...the last 2 times including recently they sucked....I wouldn't complain if they were the ones you had =) Its all good though....HAPPY ROLLS! ;)
 
Well hee I go again with my "Facts"....

Model
 
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There is definately a decrease in quality of E compared to 2 years ago. Around 5 years ago in Melbourne I believe they were peaking in quality. More expensive but worth a little extra.
 
being from the US...i can tell you that in the last 2-3 years the pills have gotten weaker...every once in a while you will find an awesome batch...but not very often...and it makes very good sense to make them weaker...and this is why...here in the US...pills go for anywhere from $10(if you are lucky and have the connects)-$25(which is really on the high side,i've only paid that like 4 times in 3 years)...generally if you make a pill weaker the consumer(i.e. clubber,raver,etc) will need to buy multiple pills to feel the effects of what 1 pill would have done to them 2+ years ago...thus...the dealers...are making out like bandits...everyone i know pops AT LEAST 2-3 a night...but not necessarily at once...so say you are at a club where approximately 500 people are in attendance(depending in what part of the country you are in that number could be rather high or rather low)...and i know that approximately 95% of the people(in this case 475) are taking pills...so lets do the math...475 people X we'll say 3 pills...that is 1475 pills sold in one night...now multiply 1475 pills by $20...that equals $28,500.00!!!!

(on a side note that is based on a club i used to go to that had house dealers)

now i don't know about some of you others but that is more than my gross income working full time ...so you tell me why it doesn't make sense???

now just imagine raves where thousands of people attend...granted there are more people supplying but they are still making a killing........

anyway i'm not doubting that tolerance plays an important role...but take me for instance...i have been doing it for almost 3 years...and when i first started i was doing it every weekend for 4 months straight...and even now i do it at least once if not twice a month...and about 3 weeks ago i had the most extraordinary pills that can only be grouped with 2 or 3 other kinds i've taken over the years...i only took 2 (within probably 2 or 3 hours of each other) and rolled face for 9.5 hours...in all my years i had never rolled so hard for so long...and generally where i'm at now...i usually need at least 4 or 5 to get to where i like to be...

just make sure that you aren't buying it from just anyone...make sure it is someone that you trust...and i realize that is not always a sure fire way...so if you really want to be sure that your pills haven't been cut with anything...make them yourself....j/k...
 
She's right.............

Never ingest ANYTHING unless you know WHO manufactured it.

But alas, some people never learn, hence the reason why half of the questions in this forum are about what could possbly be in their pills.


Model
 
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model said:
I suppose, it's all who you know.


Model
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Dude what are u trying to say? That you know pills sell better in the US as u have all these contacts? Bullshit... u ain't for real. Thats just a cover for the fact u don't know what ur talking about. Even if u did have connections to every major drug manufacturer, u still wouldn't keep track of EVERY pill sold, and if u did u'd know they sell more in Europe.

Everyone knows they sell faster in europe..from erowid to medi57. It's fact, obvious and well known.
 
Re: She's right.............

model said:
Never ingest ANYTHING unless you know WHO manufactured it.

But alas, some people never learn, hence the reason why half of the questions in this forum are about what could possbly be in their pills.


Model
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Now you know as well as the rest of us that is impractical, if not impossible. But you seem to get off on acting superior with all your "knowledge" and "contacts", so whatever floats you boat I guess.
 
Thanks for all the feedback, looks like this will be on going. I still think today's pills are junk compared to 2 yrs ago. Peace>;)
 
Re: She's right.............

model said:
Never ingest ANYTHING unless you know WHO manufactured it.

Model
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Right, next time I'm getting some pills I'll be sure to ask for the manufacturers name and address so I can go over there and check out the premises and see if the factory is up to date on all the health codes and such.
 
I would say if anything there are more shitty pills going around in the us than there were 2 or 3 years ago. but that doesn't mean that pills in general have gotten worse, good pills are still to be found reliably. You just have to have a sourse that gets good pills, it's simple. So really you can only say if pills have gotten better or worse for you personally.

mmmm pills :)

um the only way to decide this kind of would be to make a line graph of average pill rating per year on pillreports. be my guest %)
 
So I see..........

I made threats and personal attacks and now I've been warned for it.
 
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Re: So I see..........

Raas -
Please don't feed the trolls. ;)
-love, i-kat
 
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Well

Raas,

In all actuality, I do know what I am talking about. I did not threaten you, but if you see it that way so be it. I don't think it's any big secret now, but you should really be carefull who you insult.

I will gladly give you a E-mail addy or number if you wish to discuss probable "outcomes" of our discussion.


Model
 
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