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I see everyone mentioni clonazepam, I've never tried it. What's it got over xanax or diazepam?

Don't know I've always wanted to try it and never found it till recently so we'll see if it arrives lol, and nitrazapam I'd not took till a week ago too lol another one I'd wanted to try, next is lorazapam as not tried them before either

Nitrazepam has a too longer half life than I could deal with. IIRC In the uk it's only recommended for sedating old people. I just wanted to sleep forever, only benzo I didnt get on with.

It wakes me up after 2 or 3 fucking hours I'm shattered
 
Someone once said on here that xanax is the crack of benzos as you need to re dose so often lol, one would just be working and I'd want more, but I'm not buying it again it's not sedating, I want monged out

So if clonazepam is the heroin of benzos @nznity I'm all over that shit, I'm going to be checking for the postman every time I hear a noise and he's not due for hours lol, my typing is getting better now but my fucking eyes are burning so tired eyes pouring drops in and rubbing them

Everyone's brain chemistry is different, look at you all saying nitrazapam knocks you out, it doesn't me, what's that about, I think I prefer valium for anxiety and sleep but I used to take alot, hence my addiction to vallies for years

But I'm still to try a few more different benzos till I can pick a favourite lol
 
Here's my herbs and spices and stuff:
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Someone once said on here that xanax is the crack of benzos as you need to re dose so often lol, one would just be working and I'd want more, but I'm not buying it again it's not sedating, I want monged out

So if clonazepam is the heroin of benzos @nznity I'm all over that shit, I'm going to be checking for the postman every time I hear a noise and he's not due for hours lol, my typing is getting better now but my fucking eyes are burning so tired eyes pouring drops in and rubbing them

Everyone's brain chemistry is different, look at you all saying nitrazapam knocks you out, it doesn't me, what's that about, I think I prefer valium for anxiety and sleep but I used to take alot, hence my addiction to vallies for years

But I'm still to try a few more different benzos till I can pick a favourite lol
if you like valium, you're gonna LOVE clonazepam.
 
All these fuckin meth heads these days!!! No disrespect to ya’s!!! There’s just so fucking many of you nowadays ! I hope you guys aren’t of the flailing type;!a lot sound professional here. 😂
 
I'm awake after about 2 or 3 hour sleep WHY I thought it's long lasting, is it the mirtazapine that I was so used to thats so much stronger for sleep avd used to knock me out till it poops out on you or whst? I took another half nitrazapam at 2:30 it's now 4am and I trued to sleep and can't, I'm not relaxdd I'm anxious I can't typo evabd I'm almost crying

I've took 8 zopiclone before and been fine to types I even took 18 over the course of a day avd was typing away fine, I couldnt remember any messages I write but I still managed to type so it's not the hypnotics sude of nitrazapam

I'm crossing over to clonazepam if they come today fucksake I'm never going to be able to sleep unmedicsfed am I

Why am I anxious and crying wen I've took a benzo, sorry about typos

Yeah your sleep problems are caused by your mirtazapine withdrawals. You need to either taper at low doses or let it pass. How long has it been since you last took mirtazapine?

I have a feeling a lot of what you are going through right now a combination of mirtazapine w/d and sleep deprivation. Mirtazapine is nasty stuff so you are right to stay off it.

I am assuming the mirtazapine was a script though right? I mean it's not exactly something people take for fun. Could you talk to your GP and say you're having a hard time coming off it? It's not unusual for doctors to script basically comfort meds to help someone withdraw from their old script.

Have you tried pregabalin? It helped me a lot coming off oxy. You do NOT want to be on pregabs long-term. But as a short-term solution to get over the worst of your mirtazapine w/d it might help. Clearly benzos and z-drugs are not working for you.

And I think you already said you get a bad reaction from weed right?
 
Dude I fuckin wish!

Oh mate that is literally fucking nothing that was a fucking teaser.

Hang on if I can dig through some old stash pics...

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Personally, when it comes to opiates, this is what I prefer tho...

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All these fuckin meth heads these days!!! No disrespect to ya’s!!! There’s just so fucking many of you nowadays ! I hope you guys aren’t of the flailing type;!a lot sound professional here. 😂

Hey why not you got people who go to work on Adderall everyday. Meth is just a stronger form of the same drug, if you keep your doses sensible it's possible to be functional. The main problem is the long as fuck duration and how fiendy people get on it.

But if you take Desoxyn pills, which come in just 5mg and they're dexmeth so twice as potent as the street shit even before you take purity into account, they're extremely functional and medicinal from what I've read.

It's all about self-control though. Not fiending.
 
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Yeah your sleep problems are caused by your mirtazapine withdrawals. You need to either taper at low doses or let it pass. How long has it been since you last took mirtazapine?

I have a feeling a lot of what you are going through right now a combination of mirtazapine w/d and sleep deprivation. Mirtazapine is nasty stuff so you are right to stay off it.

I am assuming the mirtazapine was a script though right? I mean it's not exactly something people take for fun. Could you talk to your GP and say you're having a hard time coming off it? It's not unusual for doctors to script basically comfort meds to help someone withdraw from their old script.

Have you tried pregabalin? It helped me a lot coming off oxy. You do NOT want to be on pregabs long-term. But as a short-term solution to get over the worst of your mirtazapine w/d it might help. Clearly benzos and z-drugs are not working for you.

And I think you already said you get a bad reaction from weed right?

I'm quite curious now that I see this come up again. Why is mirtazapine viewed in such a negative manner here? What exactly makes it 'nasty stuff'? I remember seeing something about FF mentioning tapering off it using benzo's & meant to comment as that really threw me. :unsure:
I personally take both benzos & mirtazapine on a daily basis. If I were to discontinue one I would discontinue the benzo. Taken long term it's just become something I take to avoid withdrawals as opposed to for it's effects.

Long story but TL;DR would be 15mg mirtazapine & .25mg clonazepam at bed time. I personally find the mirtazapine to be a godsend for sleep with little in the way of side effects. I would have thought that using benzos to get off of mirtazapine would be using something with higher risk to get off of something with lower risk? I know that everyone is different but I'm just curious as to the reasoning behind what I'm seeing posted. I realize that I take a low dosage & that there can be more side effects & such at higher doses but even when I tried the higher doses initially; I don't recall there being much in the way of side effects. At the time it was given to me as an AD that would have the beneficial effects of increasing appetite & helping with sleep. I didn't really notice a difference with depressive symptoms but decided to continue the medication at a dose were it provides me a benefit in terms of sleep.

Actually taking a quick glance at wiki it mentions that mirtazapine is useful in patients with IBS & can be considered as a cheap substitute for ondansetron. In my case I take ondansetron & agree with the wiki in that mirtazapine is useful in helping appetite & as an anti-emetic. So in my case I'm likely to be biased toward the medication as it has multiple benefits for me. However regardless of said benefits I don't notice negatives that would make me want to stop taking the medication. If the medication wasn't providing benefit I totally understand the wish to discontinue. Perhaps I missed something in the conversation or am misinterpreting something. Though I guess most of what I just said is irrelevant as my question isn't about me. :\

Basically I'm just curious as to why mirtazapine is viewed negatively &/or why someone would want to discontinue it if the medication was working as intended? (For sleep, appetite, AD etc.) :)


Edit: Since everyone is also discussing benzos and I forgot to mention them I'll throw in my 2 cents. =D I find temazepam to be by far the most recreational benzo I've consumed. Diazepam being another one I enjoy. Clonazepam I find to be a more functional benzo with plenty of uses but I don't find it as recreational as the afore-mentioned benzos. Alprazolam I'm not a fan of in general. I find it short acting as well as lacking in the muscle relaxing and hypnotic properties of the benzos I do enjoy. Lorazepam is a no go for me. I have a paradoxical type reaction of rage & as such avoid taking it. I haven't messed around much with 'RC' benzos. The only one I've consumed was phenazepam which I found to be very similar to clonazepam. I found it to be an excellent 'functional' type benzo. *My experience with phenazepam is not the norm; see the trainwreck thread ;))
 
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It's 48 hrs since I took my last opiate (oxy) can't sleep for shit - am giving in to one of these bad boys:

1mg xanax, got another 40 somewhere - but it feels like a such a WASTE to SLEEP THROUGH it. Anyone elae get like that with their benzos when using for sleep (or any drug - sleep's a waste innit, but love sleep). I wanna love every minute and stay awake but also sleep, it is a dilemma!


@nznity You also get ket vials! I'm so jealous. I really hate snorting that shit, but would 😍😍 love to try IV! I've done IN loads but does Is it feel different IV? What's the dosage like cause when I crushed my legs they gave it me and i just passed out.I'd love to try that.

You really gotta be careful with IV ket, I've done a big shot and it hit so quickly I was starting to k hole, needle still in my arm, lucky my bf was there to pull it out or I couldve snapped the pin off inside of me, given how thin n flimsy the 1ml exchange supplies ones are
 
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