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Phenibut

I recently got some phenibut from a new supplier.. its small crystals (rather than the ultra-fine powder) that resemble sugar or even salt maybe, has little smell, little taste but seems really strong..
 
Ya. Going to sleep right away was probably the issue. Definately not a bunk batch... it kicked in properly this time with just 1.2g dose. I was in a very nice mellow anxiety-free state for many hours. Pretty powerful stuff for an OTC supplement. It's like less lethargic version of valium to me. Damnn I can't imagine tasting this thing. I just use "00" capsules to drop. The smell is blehhhl
 
^ Taste isn't that bad if you mix it in ~ a pint of water..

I find phenibut to be nothing like benzodiazepines.. phenibut is sehr stimulating..
 
naughtynicknails said:
^ Taste isn't that bad if you mix it in ~ a pint of water..

I find phenibut to be nothing like benzodiazepines.. phenibut is sehr stimulating..
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Yeah, I've always thought the widespread comparison of phenibut to benzos to be a little misleading, though I wouldn't call it stimulating, more like a mid-point between GHB and booze than benzos. I haven't touched the stuff since discovering a very important safety tip: never take 3 grams of phenibut and write brutally honest emails to ex-girlfriends you're still in love with at 4 in the morning.
 
Lol treacle. I will take a note of that safety tip. You didn't remember you wrote those until you got replies I assume? haha
So oral ROA is the best route for phenibut? do people insufflate? or plug with better results?
 
It wasn't me who sent the e-mails, scroll up. ;) Don't snort grammes of phenibut. I'm not sure about plugging, because it's a lot to plug. I'd stick to oral. Best way is in a mouthful of juice. Fuck drinking a pint of tangy-bitter tasting water. It's not a horrible taste, just not hugely pleasant.

The Primaforce stuff is fine. They wouldn't risk their good reputation.
 
I dunno what causes this,but when i take my couple of grams in the morning,about 7.30 am,i start feeling the effects late morning and sees me through the whole day,dampening down early evening. However,when i have my evening meal,we call it tea,"what's for tea?",whatever,i find the buzz begin to come on strong again and i struggle to keep awake,crashing into a deep sleep for two or three hours.This isn't without redosing atall,yet during the day it has an almost stimulant effect. If i never had anything to eat,the buzz would not return and just fade away. Haven't had any for months,may order a 50 gram tub.
 
naughtynicknails said:
I recently got some phenibut from a new supplier.. its small crystals (rather than the ultra-fine powder) that resemble sugar or even salt maybe, has little smell, little taste but seems really strong..
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I've had, well still have, that kind. I find it absolutely useless. It is certainly stronger but I find theres way more side effects. Stomach discomfort, and a terrible next day hangover.
Primaforce never did that to me unless I took to much, in that case I would experience a foggy, lazy next day.
 
This stuff is interesting. Effects in the 1.5 gram range were quite mild and sedating, 2 grams seemed to be the sweet spot. It seems more like a high dose of gabapentin than a benzo, rather dreamy and detached. Slight sociability was noticed, but no great loss of inhibitions.

Anything above 2 grams is definitely very stimulatory, at least for the first four hours. At that level it's reminiscent of GBL, mild dizziness and a slightly manic, talkative feeling. However, I also noticed a definite increase in my heart rate and a bit of cardio-tension. I don't think there's much to be gained by any dose over 2 g,

The sleep really is amazing, but once I wake up there's no falling back asleep (dopamine blockade possibly?) This stuff seems best for socializing, or relaxing on a day without obligations. I could also see it being useful for a stim comedown. I used it twice in the last week, and don't plan to use any more in the near future.
 
The first time I had it, I had about 3.5 grammes, and actually had a panic attack. That's how stimulating it can get. It's related to PEA (which is a stimulant), so that might explain it. High doses don't feel very healthy to me, and I've actually had some nasty chest pressure, from silly amounts. Not to mention the fact that really high dosing could leave you in withdrawal, in a very short space of time. 1.5-2 grammes is about right, I agree. The stuff used to make me sleep for 10-12 hours straight, then I'd still sleep great the next night - due to the long duration. Then it became an issue, after using it to get off G. I've not had it for years.
 
I had bought phenibut in the past but it had done very little for me. I dont think I used enough, what is the best brand or such to look into buying?
 
Had it twice again last week, most recently for a Thanksgiving family gathering, in which it was very useful.

The effects seem oddly setting-dependent. When I'm socializing, or about to fall asleep, they are most pleasant: increased confidence and ease of communication and relaxing sedation, respectively. At all other times it just feels like a vastly inferior version of GBL. The same dizziness, and inappropriate sedation without any of the giddy, manic euphoria.

I'm thinking this stuff is definitely a utility drug. Also, perhaps because of it's similarity to GBL, I've noticed an urge to redoes after the 3 hour mark, in one case resulting in extreme dizziness after waking the next day. Definitely saving this stuff exclusively for social situations where it shines. If I want something recreational, occasional alcohol or benzos seem better suited to the purpose.
 
Ya love this thing for sleep. It has helped me kick my kratom habit(for a few weeks at least lol). And oh it doesn't even kick in fully until like the next day for me lol. I would wake up the next day and feel great but still wanting to sleep even after 9 hrs of sleep. what I like about phenibut is that if I want to get up and moving it would give me energy for it and if I want to sleep it would continue to help me keep sleeping. Then it lasts throughout the whole next day. Never had any drug last this long... not to mention it is OTC. I think many people would get away with taking phenibut 3x a week but that is not recommended in my opinion. Even twice a week increased my tolerance rather quickly. Be careful!
 
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Be careful. I remember you having some issues with it. Spreading out doses is key, yes. I'd like to take some again, just for the sleep and relaxation.
 
Damn right Treacle. As a social tonic,however enjoyable,it bites back HARD. I find it similar to low dose G,just lasting wahey longer.I was reckless with G but never suffered.Only had 500ml,arived right on the day of the ban. Probably lucky.
 
^I see you're enjoying your package scrooloose :) I also get those wild dreams from phenibut and other GABA-b's

Does anyone find that the quality of sleep after a cumulative dose of 2g or higher can cause resultless legs for the next three to four days? I occasionally suffer from RLS, and I noticed that seems to have been much worse in the days preceding my last two phenibut uses. When I was using GBL, I also noticed that it cause terrible restless legs whenever I was on it and trying to sleep/sit still.

Has anyone else had a similar experience with Phenibut or other GABA-b agonists?
 
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