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Peruvian Torch powder - Has anyone ingested it this way?

Voodoochild870

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Well, sometime in the near future I'm going to buy 2 Oz. of Peruvian Torch cactus flesh, and 2 Oz. of P. Torch powder. My plan is to experiment with the powder first, but I don't plan on making it into some sludge-tea. Although I don't think I'd have any problem choking down tea, I'd rather just eat the powder straight my first time. I'll most likely use the cactus flesh for tea.

I've accepted the fact that I'll probably puke my guts out, and I have no problem with that, but I'm wondering if I put the powder into a peanut butter sandwich and ate it that way, would it be easier to get down? Has anyone tried this? My main concern is that it would slow down absorbtion since Mescaline already takes a long time to kick in as it is. What about putting some on a peanut butter sandwich, and ingest the rest of it in gelcaps?

Mescaline is on the top of my list of psychedelics that I want to experiment with, followed by DMT. And since P.Torch powder and cactus flesh is sold online, I can acquire it no problemo. The DMT is another story though, so as of now I'm really looking into trying this. I used the search engine and it was helpful in prepartions for tea and extractions, but there was no mention really of ingesting it with food. So if anyone has any helpful tips here, or advice I'd greatly appreciate it.
 
Go back a few pages, you will find a post that is just like this. Someone recommended an extraction because the person who ate the powder had poor results. Hope you find your answer.
 
Well, I've heard mixed results about the powder, so I figured if I ate one ounce of it, and got no results, I could use the other one to try extracting it.

Although I'll admit the most I've done in terms of extractions were a couple CWE's on some Hydrocodones...so yeah...
 
just pack it into capsules and swallow it, there is no point ruining a perfectly nice peanut butter sandwich with a heap of nasty tasting powder
 
That's true, everyone has a different sensitivity. A friend and I were straight after 20g. I think an ounce will be a solid first dose for anybody.

There is a prep. I'm looking forward to trying: moisten the powder with water or lemon juice to make a kind of dough, then break off little pieces to roll into raisin-sized "pills." The lemon juice should help to partially break down the cactus before ingestion. There used to be a thread about this method in the forum in midzeyecreationz's website, along with a variety of other preparations all together in one place, but sadly that forum has been closed due to legality issues. I wish I had archived some of the recipes from that site :(

I've already pre-rolled two 38g bags of little green lemon balls, and hope to try it soon. A friend of mine may have already tried it, so one way or another, I'll report on it soon. The bags came to between 137- and 165 little balls for the same dose, so it depends how big you roll them, but that's a lot to swallow whatever the case. At least it avoids the extra volume and potential extra nausea of gelcaps. If you try it, I recommend dipping them in honey to get them down easier; they turn out to be a bit dry and rough.

I've already sampled 3 little balls to see what it feels like---the good thing about this method, rather than mixing the powder with food or drink, is you don't taste anything. The taste is horrible--and when you mix it with anything, you can't help but add a lot more food/liquid volume to your stomache to hide the taste. And one of the major drawbacks of this substance (unless you do an extraction), is the bloated feeling of filling your stomache with so much green shit. You want to avoid any uneccessary solids, and try to drink mostly water while dosing.
 
25g of that stuff is a lot. I was tripping for 12 hours.

Make syrup, don't use capsules or try to eat it straight. Its disgusting.
 
Anyone here done some semi controlled experiments eating the powder raw, and making syrup with the same amounts? (provided you puked with neither)

I'm curious how much is actually lost in tea making. I doubt much is lost to the heat (it is boiled for 24 hours or more sometimes in peru. A wood burning stove is obviously not as hot. But who would boil it at full intensity on a stovetop anyway?) , but as far as alkaloids not actually making it out of the cactus flesh?
 
there is a substantial difference between making tea and making syrup. to make tea add water and boil the shit out of it for many, many hours - highly inefficient

to make a syrup you do several short boiling sessions (in a pressure cooker with distilled water works best) to properly break down the plant material and extract the alkaloids. this is then reduced to a much smaller amount. much faster and more efficient. in my opinion it works better than eating dried material because you dont have to consume anywhere near as much material which gives you a better chance of ingesting more material. also making a syrup is easier to gauge a dose with.

very little is lost when using a pressure cooker because the temp tops out at 120 whereas mescaline degrades at a much higher temperature than that if i remember correctly

read the info here
 
About the rolled dough recipe I mentioned earlier... I just talked to a friend today who tried it that way, and this is what he said "It was amazing... and then I threw up for three hours."

Everyone can tolerate a different amount obviously, but it seems that doing a simple water extraction is best, and not too difficult.

^Could you explain the precise difference between tea and syrup? I was reading the article you mention earlier today, but I couldn't quite picture the difference. It can't be that the syrup is unfiltered... and in both methods the solids are thrown away in the end, correct?

Would anyone mind providing a condensed step-by-step for making the syrup (starting from PT powder rather than fresh cuttings)? I'm not sure why I'm not getting it, but as I said I'm having trouble visualizing this method.
 
For some reason I once got seriously SICK from san pedro. I don't know if it was contaminated but I had like 15g of the powder, puked after 3 hours (standard), then proceeded to puke about 7 more times throughout the day, have a really high fever, get dehydrated and lose control of my fingers. It was pretty bad poisoning.
 
You might've had an allergic reaction. I once read of (was it here?) someone giving themselves cactus up the butt. They posted a picture of the rash on their chest or back (don't remember). It would make sense for this to be more likely if administered like that, but still, everyone is different.
 
Anyone here done some semi controlled experiments eating the powder raw, and making syrup with the same amounts? (provided you puked with neither)



Ingesting powder straight in gelcaps - felt like I was dying for 48 hours straight. Too ill to enjoy any of the experience.

Tea - gipping and vomiting before I got enough down to trip from. Lots of nausea.

Alcohol extraction - less nausea than Tea or powder but still horrendous.

A/B extraction - Zero nausea, beautiful trip.
 
The only two ways I've used cactus are by making a tea and also ingesting the chunks (yuck!), and by powdering the dried tissue and capping it. Both times I felt transient nausea during the come-up and when I drank the tea/chunks, I almost threw up once during the peak which hurt. I also felt like I had a lot of material in my stock both times (which I did). But it did not interfere with the trip in any way and I had very clean and enjoyable trips both times.

I would probably still recommend making the syrup though... I'm sure it would even further reduce the side effects.
 
"(provided you puked with neither)"

Of course I realize that puking is an important factor. I'm wondering instead about 1) the absorbtion rate, and overall absorbtion of tea vs powder. 2) If the amount lost in tea is indeed minimal as it seems.
 
anyone mixed it into v8 or rolled it into tiny little balls (those with the powdered stuff)? I've heard the v8 works well to cover the taste. I am planning on trying it on in a few weeks.
 
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